Toshiba Caught in a Lie! - Blu-ray Forum

Paden · 02-19-2008, 04:21 PM

This won't surprise anyone here but this is from the live coverage on Engadget...

Quote:

Q: How many HD DVD players and recorders, exactly, did you sell?
A: 600,000 players in the US -- 300,000 of which were Xbox 360 HD DVD drives. 100,000 units were sold in Europe. And about 10,000 players and 20,000 recorders in Japan. So about 730,000 units worldwide.

How many were they claiming to have sold? I seem to remember hearing they sold 1,000,000 units in one month, right? I guess they either had a lot of returns or they just lied through their teeth to make it seem like they were doing better than they really were.

Yet another point that might make it easier to sue them... Misleading the public. I guess, however, if there really were only what, 300,000 stand alone units sold in the US, the population of people waiting to sue them is probably a lot smaller than I originally thought.

Dragonraine · 02-19-2008, 04:25 PM

What about PC drives? I dont know how many they sold, probably not a ton, but those dont seem to be counted in that total.

Josh · 02-19-2008, 04:25 PM

Including PC drives = 1M

Iago · 02-19-2008, 04:25 PM

it wasnt in one month. it was total so far...

mdm1699 · 02-19-2008, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paden

This won't surprise anyone here but this is from the live coverage on Engadget...

How many were they claiming to have sold? I seem to remember hearing they sold 1,000,000 units in one month, right? I guess they either had a lot of returns or they just lied through their teeth to make it seem like they were doing better than they really were.

Yet another point that might make it easier to sue them... Misleading the public. I guess, however, if there really were only what, 300,000 stand alone units sold in the US, the population of people waiting to sue them is probably a lot smaller than I originally thought.

Beating a dead horse... bringing up/asking something that has been discussed a thousand times before

Razzy · 02-19-2008, 04:26 PM

A: 600,000 players in the US -- 300,000 of which were Xbox 360 HD DVD drives.

I wonder how many of those stand alones are being returned as we speak.

MacDaddyOJack · 02-19-2008, 04:26 PM

I believe you are thinking of the nearly 100,000 in one month. That was from the firesale before Christmas. Lot of good it did them!

hc666 · 02-19-2008, 04:27 PM

HAHA

does it really matter?

Slapper · 02-19-2008, 04:27 PM

Not surprising. Toshiba/HD DVD PRG have never been good with numbers.

Sonny · 02-19-2008, 04:29 PM

there screwed anyway , & we all know they could never count!!!

Kristin Simard · 02-19-2008, 04:31 PM

Depending on how you view the figures, both could be correct. Are they talking wholesale or retail? Does that include pre-order "sales"? I don't know. It's a moot point at this time.

mdm1699 · 02-19-2008, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacDaddyOJack

I believe you are thinking of the nearly 100,000 in one month. That was from the firesale before Christmas. Lot of good it did them!

Care to swap subs?

Paden · 02-19-2008, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacDaddyOJack

I believe you are thinking of the nearly 100,000 in one month. That was from the firesale before Christmas. Lot of good it did them!

So they sold a total of 300,000 units and they took a bath on at least 100,000 of them in December? LOL! Actually, they took a bath on each sale, I suppose.

Toshiba is a laughingstock. They'll even be more so when they come knocking and want to join the BDA.

Dragonraine · 02-19-2008, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paden

So they sold a total of 300,000 units and they took a bath on at least 100,000 of them in December? LOL! Actually, they took a bath on each sale, I suppose.

Toshiba is a laughingstock. They'll even be more so when they come knocking and want to join the BDA.

They dont need to come knocking, the BDA already invited them, or did you miss that news yesterday?

Xerious · 02-19-2008, 04:33 PM

none of this matters anymore. the war is over. let's all celebrate by buying some blu this weekend!

Malosch78 · 02-19-2008, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razzy

A: 600,000 players in the US -- 300,000 of which were Xbox 360 HD DVD drives.

I wonder how many of those stand alones are being returned as we speak.

about 299.998

I guess Jodi and Ken will keep theres

ranma · 02-19-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh

Including PC drives = 1M

HDDVD standalone sales = 300k

The difference between 1M and 730K is 270K.

Do you really think PC drive sold as many as HDDVD standalone?

MacDaddyOJack · 02-19-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mdm1699

Care to swap subs?

No sir

This thing goes DEEP. I had it cranked so that I could set the level and EQ. While I was listening (Cystal Method I think) it rattled a ceramic frog off of my shelf on the wall

Amel · 02-19-2008, 04:38 PM

you phail!

Paden · 02-19-2008, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonraine

They dont need to come knocking, the BDA already invited them, or did you miss that news yesterday?

Yes, I missed that. They still have to "join".

Thanks.

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02-19-2008, 04:25 PM	#2
Dragonraine Banned Member since:Jan 2008	What about PC drives? I dont know how many they sold, probably not a ton, but those dont seem to be counted in that total.

02-19-2008, 04:25 PM	#3
Josh Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:34	Including PC drives = 1M

02-19-2008, 04:25 PM	#4
Iago Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Portland, OR Blu-ray collection:281	it wasnt in one month. it was total so far...

02-19-2008, 04:26 PM	#6
Razzy Special Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Canada Blu-ray collection:179 Blu-ray reviews:2	A: 600,000 players in the US -- 300,000 of which were Xbox 360 HD DVD drives. I wonder how many of those stand alones are being returned as we speak.

02-19-2008, 04:26 PM	#7
MacDaddyOJack Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Richmond, VA PSNetwork: MacDaddyOJack Trophy Level: 12(4%) Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:71 Blu-ray reviews:23 Trading Score:4	I believe you are thinking of the nearly 100,000 in one month. That was from the firesale before Christmas. Lot of good it did them!

02-19-2008, 04:27 PM	#8
hc666 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:100 Blu-ray reviews: 26	HAHA does it really matter?

02-19-2008, 04:27 PM	#9
Slapper Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:I live in a pineapple under the sea... Blu-ray collection:277	Not surprising. Toshiba/HD DVD PRG have never been good with numbers.

02-19-2008, 04:29 PM	#10
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	there screwed anyway , & we all know they could never count!!!

02-19-2008, 04:31 PM	#11
Kristin Simard Special Member Member since:Aug 2007	Depending on how you view the figures, both could be correct. Are they talking wholesale or retail? Does that include pre-order "sales"? I don't know. It's a moot point at this time.

02-19-2008, 04:33 PM	#15
Xerious Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Washington, DC Blu-ray collection:238 Blu-ray reviews:4	none of this matters anymore. the war is over. let's all celebrate by buying some blu this weekend!

02-19-2008, 04:38 PM	#19
Amel Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Clearwater FL Blu-ray collection:91 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	you phail!

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