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I got a couple devices that I've gotten for fairly cheap.
One of those devices is a Vesa plug to 2.5 mm plug, which I could convert into a 3.5 mm plug for my Sega scope glasses. The other device I have is a VGA in VGA out with a sink extractor in the middle which has both a VESA plug and a 3.5 mm plug. I got a device with a VESA plug on one end and an RF sinker on the other end that accurately does the timing. I think I might have the equipment to run a left right alternator in sync with a PC picture and assuming I put it to a very low ping monitor should correctly filter out the left and right frames properly. My main question is why is there no such thing as an HDMI 3d sync extractor? Also how do infrared transmitters and TRS shutter glasses run? I could generate the noise the regular rhythmic pattern of the left right signal on the sync channel, I could re-transmit the noise and delay it whatever the TV delay is but I can't power the glasses on that alone. I think those devices have a 5 volts pin somewhere therefore somewhere there should exist a USB power source that could power either an IR transmitter or TRS shutter glasses. I don't know how these glasses work well enough to know how to power them externally apart from the system it's designed from. Does anyone have any ideas of where I could feed a sync signal and a power source for either IR or TRS shutter glasses? I understand for the IR I have to power the glasses with electric charge. Anyone have any idea of a way I could run a shutter system without relying on the power of a pre-made 3D device? |
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It's a common misconception I've heard that Blu-ray 3D is frame-sequential, which it isn't. It's frame-packed, i.e. a codec that contains both views that can be adapted to the display, some of which use shutter glasses (although technically not the same standard of frame sequential used in the interlaced standard-def era). So TLDR it's not gonna be coming out of the HDMI sequentially... IF that's what you were asking, I may have misunderstood you entirely.
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Well I know the timing of the signal is dependent on what goes in the 3.5 mm cable of the Sega Master System Sega scope. And I have a couple of devices that supposedly work with a sync signal.
I got the following devices for my sync chain. A 2.5 mm to VESA Male. A 3.5 mm to 2.5 mm. And a VESA male to IR timing shutter device. There are two projects I'm looking to do. One is take the pre-existing sink signal from the Sega master system and find a double female VESA connector, and see if that chain could power the infrared sinker so that my glasses could be timed with the Sega Master System and be played through my TN monitor which has one millisecond delay which I found is not enough to throw off the Sega scope. Oh thanks for telling me that about it's framing packed meaning all the information about the left eye and right eye are delivered at the same time. My second idea doesn't seem as likely which is extracting an LR sync signal out of an HDMI frame packed 3D signal and then converting that to an external sinker which would alternate left right. I understand that the TV would have to alter its presentation because take 2D TVs don't natively understand 3D TVs and the way the TV understands the 3D signal is hardwired built into the TV operating system. So therefore you have to have a box in the middle that could convert frame pack 3D into say alternate frames 3d, or side-by-side half 3D. I can get a capture of a 3D video of Sonic Generations and have it displayed in top bottom formats but I understand from there the computer has to process it and convert it to alternate frames and then send out a sync signal through a 3.5 mm port where I could connect the sinker connector through all that maze of stuff. I swear the sudden rise of 3D up until August 2011 and then the sudden crash was caused by mainly two things, The fact that in order to get a 3D TV I had to buy a whole new TV just two years after the forced digital conversion. In other words there should have been an add-on kits but none was available because they wanted you to buy a whole TV instead of an ad on kit or service that could polarize your screen. The other thing that ruined 3D was what I call the Leela Bowl. In August of 2011 I heard on a local radio station that people were spreading news that the 2012 Super bowl if they were to show it in 3D would be 2D incompatible. And then the people with antennas complained and said they can't get their Super bowl and the NFL didn't want to pay for 3D 2D converters so they just limited it to both green and magenta and limited it just to the halftime show and the episode of Chuck afterwards. That truly is the two secrets. Make 3D programming easily 2D. And they add on kits so you could find any great TV and make it 3D. I proven that a TN monitor, which is considered a very low ping monitor, measured at 1 millisecond for the display time will not throw off a Sega Master system SegaScope 3D presentation. However the built-in monofilter will kill it. But the Sony universal shutter infrared glasses will not kill it. They have a diagonal axis of shutout on a typical tea and monitor not a vertical or horizontal. You took it at 45° to completely shut out the screen. All these little things I've discovering and putting together should show how 3D was mismanaged in August of 2011. And how not to repeat that mistake if it's trying for another comeback in the late 2020s. |
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Actually I was trying to find a double female Vesa connector, so that I could see if the Sega Master System could drive the flasher that I have that is an infrared flasher.
My monitor is a TN monitor therefore has only one millisecond delay therefore does not cause significance enough delay to cause the flashers to be out of alignment. I don't know where I could find a VESA double female. If this works I may have just found a cheaper way to get Sega scope working with a modern add-on infrared shutter signal transmitter. I know the timing is correct because my monitor has limited ping. I just got to get the glasses powered somehow and be able to cut through the monopolarized filter on the TN monitor. |
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