Will Godfather open the floodgates?? - Blu-ray Forum

bone crusher · 07-02-2008, 06:31 PM

What I mean by this is will this being the first epic coming to BD will it help in maybe making other studios put out big films on BD like Gladiator, Scarface and Lord of the Rings etc. What do you guys think?

SS316SRV · 07-02-2008, 06:37 PM

A film that has already been released onto DVD that sold well will not be the opener of floodgates. New titles will do that. Wait for Ironman or The Dark Knight to come out and set records. It will happen, oh yes, it will happen.

JadedRaverLA · 07-02-2008, 06:37 PM

If it actually sells in major numbers it might make studios take a look at their vaults and move up some restorations/remasterings... but given the past track record of Close Encounters, etc, it will need to do pretty well for studios to decide to make any major moves I think.

It will definitely be a closely watched title, though -- likely, both in terms of sales numbers and consumer reaction, compared to other classic titles where less work/money was put in to restoration efforts.

Beta Man · 07-02-2008, 06:37 PM

What does The Godfather Trilogy have to do with those other movies???? oh that's right....

nothing......

Each studio/producer/director, etc... who owns the rights to these movies knows their potential, and they also know the importance of bringing them into the marketplace at a time that will maximize their profits....

If EVERY movie that was already on DVD got put on blu-ray tomorrow...... Not as many people would buy things like "30 Days of Night" (watched it last night....jeez!!!) or "Sunshine" etc.... they'd have laundry lists of movies at higher priority for them, and by the time the filled up their "wish" list, the second tier movies will have become distant memories.....

TheFutureIsBlu · 07-02-2008, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bone crusher

What I mean by this is will this being the first epic coming to BD will it help in maybe making other studios put out big films on BD like Gladiator, Scarface and Lord of the Rings etc. What do you guys think?

I'll be picking up Godfather first day it comes out.

GoBlu08 · 07-02-2008, 06:39 PM

I don't think it will open the floodgates. I do think that it will be a bestseller for a while because come on its the GODFATHER. Iron Man and The Dark Knight will definitely sell a ton.

TheFutureIsBlu · 07-02-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBlu08

I don't think it will open the floodgates. I do think that it will be a bestseller for a while because come on its the GODFATHER. Iron Man and The Dark Knight will definitely sell a ton.

+1

SpaceDog · 07-02-2008, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

A film that has already been released onto DVD that sold well will not be the opener of floodgates. New titles will do that. Wait for Ironman or The Dark Knight to come out and set records. It will happen, oh yes, it will happen.

I think one or the other of these films will likely do for Blu-Ray what Matrix did for DVD. Possibly even Crystal Skull.

sockmodel7 · 07-02-2008, 06:48 PM

It'll open the floodgates only in the sense that anything that increases blu adoption is going to make big catalog releases more enticing to studios. But as has been said already, titles like Transformers, TDK, Indiana Jones and Iron Man will ultimately drive sales of hardware.

All things considered, I'm quite pleased overall with the number of quality catalog releases we've had this early in the adoption cycle, with LOTR all but confirmed for next year as well. This holiday season should be the push most studios need to breakdown and release the vast majority they've been holding off on.

Moefiz · 07-02-2008, 06:50 PM

I think the Godfather will sell a ton even at that price tag and I also believe that it will take time for other classic to come out in BD, most studios will look at the sales of this movie and judge what to release or not.

Quality instead of quantity

Woody · 07-02-2008, 06:51 PM

I don't think TGF is a great basis for catalog sales if we are hoping to get LOTR or Star Wars or Gladiator, etc.

TGF is a very different genre than those catalogs IMO, and won't be a great indicator of how "sci fi" epics will sell.

Now analyzing the sales numbers for TGF and projecting sales of other classic drama catalogs is a much more relevant parallel to draw IMO.

On a side note, I hope TGF sells very well, but I have this gut feeling it won't do as well as we hope.

Marine Mike · 07-02-2008, 06:56 PM

I don't believe this will open the Floodgates as its also being released on DVD. Now if this was a Blu-Ray only release then I would have to agree it has the potential to open them.

GoBlu08 · 07-02-2008, 07:09 PM

We will just have to see. I have it already pre ordered. Its going to be like 120 in stores and its 87 on Amazon.

sg2386 · 07-02-2008, 07:22 PM

I hope Scarface gets released on Blu, will definitely get that.

I've had the Godfather DVD boxset for about 5 years and will DEFINITELY get the Blu-ray trilogy. Not sure what to do with my current set.

kpkelley · 07-02-2008, 07:23 PM

Hopefully this will convince Sony that we are finally ready for Lawrence of Arabia after they delayed it because they wanted more sales for catalog titles like CE3K.

Sith · 07-02-2008, 07:25 PM

The thing Godfather WILL do that alot of other titles(Iron Man, Transformers, Batman) don't even if it doesn't sell as much, is make people buy blu ray
players if they don't already have one.....

this is like Halo or GTA coming out on one system, There are people
who could really not of given a sh*t about blu ray that are older and have $$$, that now that this is coming out are going to blu up....

GoBlu08 · 07-02-2008, 07:34 PM

I agree with that. There are a hand full of titles that will do that. The Godfather is one of them. I would say Braveheart could possible do that.

broganreynik · 07-03-2008, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sockmodel7

...with LOTR all but confirmed for next year...

Did I miss something? When did this happen?

Bobby Henderson · 07-03-2008, 12:51 AM

I don't think The Godfather is going to set any sales records for Blu-ray.

Certainly the first two Godfather movies are undisputed classics. They are truly great movies. However, I think the crowd that buys those discs will mainly be made up of baby boomers and others who were around when the movies were released in the 1970s. Some dedicated film fans will also collect the discs.

I don't think The Godfather is going to sell very well to viewers under the ages of 30, maybe not even under 35 either. Some younger adult viewers will buy it, but I think they'll be part of the "dedicated film fan" group.

I'm probably going to buy the new BD box set. I bought the previous DVD box set of The Godfather.

Woody · 07-03-2008, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

I don't think The Godfather is going to set any sales records for Blu-ray.

Certainly the first two Godfather movies are undisputed classics. They are truly great movies. However, I think the crowd that buys those discs will mainly be made up of baby boomers and others who were around when the movies were released in the 1970s. Some dedicated film fans will also collect the discs.

I don't think The Godfather is going to sell very well to viewers under the ages of 30, maybe not even under 35 either. Some younger adult viewers will by it, but I think they'll be part of the "dedicated film fan" group.

I'm probably going to buy the new BD box set. I bought the previous DVD box set of The Godfather.

Exactly my thinking.

07-02-2008, 06:31 PM	#1
bone crusher Banned Member since:Jun 2007 Location:canada Trading Score:259	Will Godfather open the floodgates?? What I mean by this is will this being the first epic coming to BD will it help in maybe making other studios put out big films on BD like Gladiator, Scarface and Lord of the Rings etc. What do you guys think?

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07-02-2008, 06:37 PM	#2
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	A film that has already been released onto DVD that sold well will not be the opener of floodgates. New titles will do that. Wait for Ironman or The Dark Knight to come out and set records. It will happen, oh yes, it will happen.

07-02-2008, 06:37 PM	#3
JadedRaverLA Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews:2	If it actually sells in major numbers it might make studios take a look at their vaults and move up some restorations/remasterings... but given the past track record of Close Encounters, etc, it will need to do pretty well for studios to decide to make any major moves I think. It will definitely be a closely watched title, though -- likely, both in terms of sales numbers and consumer reaction, compared to other classic titles where less work/money was put in to restoration efforts.

07-02-2008, 06:37 PM	#4
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	What does The Godfather Trilogy have to do with those other movies???? oh that's right.... nothing...... Each studio/producer/director, etc... who owns the rights to these movies knows their potential, and they also know the importance of bringing them into the marketplace at a time that will maximize their profits.... If EVERY movie that was already on DVD got put on blu-ray tomorrow...... Not as many people would buy things like "30 Days of Night" (watched it last night....jeez!!!) or "Sunshine" etc.... they'd have laundry lists of movies at higher priority for them, and by the time the filled up their "wish" list, the second tier movies will have become distant memories.....

07-02-2008, 06:39 PM	#6
GoBlu08 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:8 Blu-ray reviews:4	I don't think it will open the floodgates. I do think that it will be a bestseller for a while because come on its the GODFATHER. Iron Man and The Dark Knight will definitely sell a ton.

07-02-2008, 06:48 PM	#9
sockmodel7 Active Member Member since:Apr 2008	It'll open the floodgates only in the sense that anything that increases blu adoption is going to make big catalog releases more enticing to studios. But as has been said already, titles like Transformers, TDK, Indiana Jones and Iron Man will ultimately drive sales of hardware. All things considered, I'm quite pleased overall with the number of quality catalog releases we've had this early in the adoption cycle, with LOTR all but confirmed for next year as well. This holiday season should be the push most studios need to breakdown and release the vast majority they've been holding off on.

07-02-2008, 06:50 PM	#10
Moefiz Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:288 DVD collection:20 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:70	I think the Godfather will sell a ton even at that price tag and I also believe that it will take time for other classic to come out in BD, most studios will look at the sales of this movie and judge what to release or not. Quality instead of quantity

07-02-2008, 06:51 PM	#11
Woody Power Member Member since:Jun 2007 Home Theater Gallery:60 4K collection:175 Blu-ray collection:415 DVD collection:165	I don't think TGF is a great basis for catalog sales if we are hoping to get LOTR or Star Wars or Gladiator, etc. TGF is a very different genre than those catalogs IMO, and won't be a great indicator of how "sci fi" epics will sell. Now analyzing the sales numbers for TGF and projecting sales of other classic drama catalogs is a much more relevant parallel to draw IMO. On a side note, I hope TGF sells very well, but I have this gut feeling it won't do as well as we hope.

07-02-2008, 06:56 PM	#12
Marine Mike The Busey Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Ohio Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:120 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:4	I don't believe this will open the Floodgates as its also being released on DVD. Now if this was a Blu-Ray only release then I would have to agree it has the potential to open them.

07-02-2008, 07:09 PM	#13
GoBlu08 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:8 Blu-ray reviews:4	We will just have to see. I have it already pre ordered. Its going to be like 120 in stores and its 87 on Amazon.

07-02-2008, 07:22 PM	#14
sg2386 Expert Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Toronto Ontario 4K collection:33 Blu-ray collection:234 DVD collection:207 Blu-ray reviews:1	I hope Scarface gets released on Blu, will definitely get that. I've had the Godfather DVD boxset for about 5 years and will DEFINITELY get the Blu-ray trilogy. Not sure what to do with my current set.

07-02-2008, 07:23 PM	#15
kpkelley Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Framingham, MA 4K collection:385 Blu-ray collection:2478 Digital collection:113 Blu-ray reviews: 152	Hopefully this will convince Sony that we are finally ready for Lawrence of Arabia after they delayed it because they wanted more sales for catalog titles like CE3K.

07-02-2008, 07:25 PM	#16
Sith Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Seal Beach, CA Blu-ray collection:168	The thing Godfather WILL do that alot of other titles(Iron Man, Transformers, Batman) don't even if it doesn't sell as much, is make people buy blu ray players if they don't already have one..... this is like Halo or GTA coming out on one system, There are people who could really not of given a sh*t about blu ray that are older and have $$$, that now that this is coming out are going to blu up....

07-02-2008, 07:34 PM	#17
GoBlu08 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:8 Blu-ray reviews:4	I agree with that. There are a hand full of titles that will do that. The Godfather is one of them. I would say Braveheart could possible do that.

07-03-2008, 12:51 AM	#19
Bobby Henderson Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Oklahoma Blu-ray collection:96 Blu-ray reviews: 12	I don't think The Godfather is going to set any sales records for Blu-ray. Certainly the first two Godfather movies are undisputed classics. They are truly great movies. However, I think the crowd that buys those discs will mainly be made up of baby boomers and others who were around when the movies were released in the 1970s. Some dedicated film fans will also collect the discs. I don't think The Godfather is going to sell very well to viewers under the ages of 30, maybe not even under 35 either. Some younger adult viewers will buy it, but I think they'll be part of the "dedicated film fan" group. I'm probably going to buy the new BD box set. I bought the previous DVD box set of The Godfather.

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