New speakers/sub hooked up

[Beta Man]

So I had gotten the new Fronts and surrounds connected, and now I got my Definitive Technology 14" Reference series Super-Cube connected. Still playing around with the set up, but I'm NOT really blown away by it yet, but it's head and shoulders better than what I had. I am enjoying the new fronts more than anything, but I have to keep watching movies to appreciate the surrounds! I'm starting to think I'd be better served by down-grading my sub, and upgrading with some mono-tube amps to get more out of my Mains/Centers/surrounds.....

I've set it up with an SPL, so I'm just a little dissappointed by the performance of this sub compared to others I've listened to. I think I'm gonna get one of the others I have auditioned previously.

[MacDaddyOJack]

When you say Reference series 14" supercube, do you mean the actual reference supercube or the one that measures 14"??? If it is the reference, you should probably take it back if you aren't impressed. That is a lot of money to spend on something that only sounds mediocre to you. You can get an SVS ultra for the price of a supercube reference or you could get a nice HSU. I would skip the amps and such for the fronts, a good subwoofer should be all you need now.

[bkbluray]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

So I had gotten the new Fronts and surrounds connected, and now I got my Definitive Technology 14" Reference series Super-Cube connected. Still playing around with the set up, but I'm NOT really blown away by it yet, but it's head and shoulders better than what I had. I am enjoying the new fronts more than anything, but I have to keep watching movies to appreciate the surrounds! I'm starting to think I'd be better served by down-grading my sub, and upgrading with some mono-tube amps to get more out of my Mains/Centers/surrounds.....

I've set it up with an SPL, so I'm just a little dissappointed by the performance of this sub compared to others I've listened to. I think I'm gonna get one of the others I have auditioned previously.

Play around with the volume levels and sub placement. For me, it made a huge difference when I moved my new sub (Infinity 8") into the corner rather than against one wall.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyOJack

When you say Reference series 14" supercube, do you mean the actual reference supercube or the one that measures 14"??? If it is the reference, you should probably take it back if you aren't impressed. That is a lot of money to spend on something that only sounds mediocre to you. You can get an SVS ultra for the price of a supercube reference or you could get a nice HSU. I would skip the amps and such for the fronts, a good subwoofer should be all you need now.

It's a 14" woofer, it's the Reference series..... My local shop gave it to me for $1,300 plus some change, and tax..... My shop doesn't carry SVS, and I'm leary about what it would take to order it, audition it, and return it if I don't like it...... I know everyone will say "oh you'll love it" but that's what I thought about the Supercube.

[MacDaddyOJack]

Yeah, SVS is online direct only. They come packaged very well, so if you should need to send it back, just save the box. You can get the Ultra for about $1300. I have the 20-39 PC+, just below the ultra and can't imagine needing anything more. It has brought out vibrations that I didn't know I even had. It goes LOW and stays very clear and articulate. I know that I'm only one opinion, but try to find a negative review of an SVS.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyOJack

Yeah, SVS is online direct only. They come packaged very well, so if you should need to send it back, just save the box. You can get the Ultra for about $1300. I have the 20-39 PC+, just below the ultra and can't imagine needing anything more. It has brought out vibrations that I didn't know I even had. It goes LOW and stays very clear and articulate. I know that I'm only one opinion, but try to find a negative review of an SVS.

Appreciate the help...... I'm trying to lean towards a "musical" sub also, so if that means I sacrifice on the HT side, so be it.

[mdabb]

I don't know much about your sub and can't seem to access any info on DEF TECH website. Try switching the "Phase" 0-180 on the sub.(if it has a switch)I would also set the "X-OVER" cutoff to 60hz on your receiver. I personally never liked the sound @ a cutoff of 80hz if that is what you are using and play around with the gain. (on the sub and the receiver) I'm guessing you are looking for a little more deep end?

Corner placement may help you tune to a lower freq.

Are you using a LFE input on the sub or line level inputs?

I have been able to hit around 115db with my Cerwin Vega CLS 12S when listening to music.Obviously depends on what you're listening to.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

I'm leary about what it would take to order it, audition it, and return it if I don't like it......

Why? They have one of the best reputations around. They give you a 45-day money back guarantee.

You can get the PB12-Plus/2 right now for $1099 with $99 shipping.

http://svsound.com/products-sub-box-plus2.cfm

Alternately if you want their best sub, the PB13-Ultra, it's $1499.

[JimPullan]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Appreciate the help...... I'm trying to lean towards a "musical" sub also, so if that means I sacrifice on the HT side, so be it.

One of the most highly rated, by Audiophile and Stereophile magazines, as the most 'musical' subwoofer, having 'tight bass', and exact replication of an instrument or voice, is the Paradigm Studio Reference Servo-15 . It has a 1,500W RMS Amp. with 4,500 W peak reserve. It is Servo Controlled. I have this sub and it is truly amazing with music as well as cinema. Now, the price for this puppy is $2,600.00 . However, it is the only sub I'll ever need! [Jim]

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by JimPullan

One of the most highly rated, by Audiophile and Stereophile magazines, as the most 'musical' subwoofer, having 'tight bass', and exact replication of an instrument or voice, is the Paradigm Studio Reference Servo-15 . It has a 1,500W RMS Amp. with 4,500 W peak reserve. It is Servo Controlled. I have this sub and it is truly amazing with music as well as cinema. Now, the price for this puppy is $2,600.00 . However, it is the only sub I'll ever need! [Jim]

yeah... that's out of my (and by "My" I mean my wife's) price range. The Martin Logan Abyss looks good on paper, and is even cheaper than the Definitive Technology sub that I bought, so maybe I'll give it a listen.

1,500 RMS...... hmmm I guess if you're content to settle

[JimPullan]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

yeah... that's out of my (and by "My" I mean my wife's) price range. The Martin Logan Abyss looks good on paper, and is even cheaper than the Definitive Technology sub that I bought, so maybe I'll give it a listen.

1,500 RMS...... hmmm I guess if you're content to settle

Yes, I'm content !!! The sub goes all the way down to 10Hz. without distortion. I put in a CD that had a Pipe Organ, that went down to 12Hz. and my entire room shook but the sound was perfect [Jim]

[Beta Man]

if you don't mind me asking, what accompanying speakers do you have, and amps/pre-amp etc? It's obvious you're more into the audio side than video (as am I ) but you also obviously have a larger budget!!! The last thing I need to do is get more ideas in my head..... but I'll just chalk it up to curiosity! You can PM me if you don't want to post your gear (or not tell me at all, as that is also your perogative as well)

[JimPullan]

No, I don't mind sharing what toys I have .

I have a Sony STRDA-4300 ES Receiver, acting only as my Pre-Amp/Processor. I have 250W ch. Mono-block amps from Sherbourn, five of them. My speakers are from the Paradigm Studio Reference line. I have Studio Reference 100's for Front L&R, as well as Studio 100's for my L&R rear surrounds. My center channel is the Studio Reference CC-690, and my sub is the Paradigm Studio Reference Servo-15. I have the Panasonic DMP-BD-30 Blu-ray Player, an Arcam CD-36 192/24 Upsampling CD Player, an DirecTV HR-21 High Definition Satellite Receiver with built-in DVR, a Sony 400 Disc DVD/CD/SA-CD Player (HDMI out), and a JVC HD-VCR.

I'm single and don't have to worry about speakers being everywhere or being accountable to anyone for my purchasing decisions. If I like it and it make sense, I buy it. There are alot higher products with better performance than what I have, but I am content, and anyone who's been over is blown away by the experience in my living room, including me, every evening after work [Jim]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

if you don't mind me asking, what accompanying speakers do you have, and amps/pre-amp etc? It's obvious you're more into the audio side than video (as am I ) but you also obviously have a larger budget!!! The last thing I need to do is get more ideas in my head..... but I'll just chalk it up to curiosity! You can PM me if you don't want to post your gear (or not tell me at all, as that is also your perogative as well)

[Beta Man]

I have the Sony 400 Disc DVD/CD/SA-CD Player It's great for the price.

I get every little purchase scrutinized now, but I just bought all new equipment recently, so I brought the heat upon myself!

I also have to go to the shop to pick up my replacement tweeter for one of my surrounds...... pesky little kids..... they should all have their fingers removed, and not given back until they're old enough to know how to keep them to themselves!


Didn't realize they had HD-VCRs, but then again, I've never owned a VCR..... I got a DVD player in 1996/97 (1st year of college) and was living off of the parents prior to that....


You certainly have some nice equipment...... You have 5 single-channel mono tube amps? Sherbourne has a 5 channel though right?

[JimPullan]

Yes, I have Mono-block amps. One (1) amp dedicated to a speaker x 5 times, NOT a 5 channel amp within a single chassis. [Jim]