HDMI cable made it worse!!! - Blu-ray Forum

horrorfreak889 · 05-17-2008, 08:03 PM

So i finally got an HDMI cable, after being screamed at on this website from people saying "You arent using an hdmi cable!! your stupid!" Well I am new to this whole bluray thing. I have a 26 inch lcd hdtv, and a sony bluray player. I got the hdmi cables from amazon.com, they were about $8 and i hooked it up. I know i hooked it up in the right spot, because there is only 2 areas where you can plug it in correctly. Anyway, i poped in a movie, and noticed no change in the PQ/SQ. When I play regular dvds, the picture looks worse.....

So basically I wasted my money

beauwalnut · 05-17-2008, 08:29 PM

The best way to see a bluray is with a hdmi cable. However your tv is so small that your eye cant really see the difference. “up converting” a regular dvd is often not an improvement. On the positive side, some bluray movies in the future may have a copy protection that will only allow full resolution when using a hdmi cable. If and when that happens you are ready.

X400 · 05-17-2008, 08:30 PM

26" lcd???

your right you wouldnt notice any difference at all in pq.. its too small :/

FilmmakingFiasco · 05-17-2008, 08:49 PM

Have you checked your Blu-ray player menu for DVD upscaling options? Some Blu-ray players will set upscale different for component or HDMI. Make sure that the upscaling is turned on for HDMI.

BStecke · 05-17-2008, 08:52 PM

Just to piggyback on the above post . . . have you gone through the display settings on the PS3 and set it up to output in HD? If you were just using the composite cables, just plugging in an HDMI cable won't make any difference. You have to set it up properly.

dadkins · 05-17-2008, 08:56 PM

Since OP has not mentioned what viewing distance he is at, any comment on screen size is a waste.

*PLUS* if this is the HDTV the OP has:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/produ....do?oid=194702

... it is only 720p.
BDs will look good, but won't be displaying at 1080 no matter what settings are used.

X-Ninja · 05-17-2008, 09:26 PM

26'? So... its a 720p TV then. Im not even sure if 1080p 26 inchers exist. Probably not...

You need a new TV if you really want to see a HUGE defference from BD to DVD.
Im not rushing you. Im just saying... You might wanna start putting 5 bucks a week into a new TV and eventually get a new TV. Maybe a 1080p Bravia?

Point is - 26' is pretty small...

As for the SQ. The sound isnt gonna change if your playing it through the speakers of your TV.

You need a new receiver. I suggest the Onkyo 605. It does all the HD audio, and is one of the cheapest. You can pick them up for a near 399.

EDIT: Are you sure your BD Player is set to output to 720p? Who knows... It could be displaying in 480i... Not sure how BD players even work. PS3 > all.

gearyt · 05-17-2008, 09:28 PM

most of the above......

Marine Mike · 05-17-2008, 09:32 PM

I don't think its the HDMI cable that is the issue as I've never seen an 'improvement' with a movie player that 'upconverts' a DVD, if anything depending on the movie, it exploits its flaws even more.

crackinhedz · 05-17-2008, 10:13 PM

...you have to calibrate for the HDMI input.

What looked good using another input will not be set for the HDMI input.

brett_day · 05-17-2008, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

...you have to calibrate for the HDMI input.

What looked good using another input will not be set for the HDMI input.

yippie skippy...go to the bd player setting and select HDMI as your output...again though like many have said you will not see much difference on the 26" screen.

sleazypig · 05-17-2008, 10:50 PM

Don't buy 8 dollar Hdmi cables either. Your buying crap.

un4gvn94538 · 05-17-2008, 10:56 PM

i have a blu player in my computer. i have a 19" 720p monitor and can tell the difference with blu. hell, i just tried my ps3 to see what games would look like at 720p and what a difference! even though the monitor was in my lap practically, i might have to use that when playing. since this is the second thread i have read by the op and still hes having issues, something is definately wrong with the set up

BStecke · 05-17-2008, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleazypig

Don't buy 8 dollar Hdmi cables either. Your buying crap.

Please. Let's not go down that road again. What he's got is fine.

Petra_Kalbrain · 05-18-2008, 12:58 AM

All of the above EXCEPT THE YAHOO THAT STATED $8 HDMI IS CRAP!

MONSTER CABLES cost less than $10 to manufacture!!!

HMtheJJ · 05-18-2008, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BStecke

Just to piggyback on the above post . . . have you gone through the display settings on the PS3 and set it up to output in HD? If you were just using the composite cables, just plugging in an HDMI cable won't make any difference. You have to set it up properly.

actually NO, becuz if you changed from one type of cable to the other, the TV would be blank, however, he could see the video, which means he did set up correctly. and that's the good thing about HDMI, cuz everything is auto set by the standard. if he had a PS3, turn it off, and then press and hold the power on button until the PS3 and HDMI cable auto configure the settings.

and like someone said, the screen is way too small to see a big difference. I mean no disrespect, but TVs are under 34inch should be banned from using HDMI since it DOES NOT make a big impact!!!

dadkins · 05-18-2008, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMtheJJ

I mean no disrespect, but TVs are under 34inch should be banned from using HDMI since it DOES NOT make a big impact!!!

Misconception.
If the display is 1080p, and the viewing distance is ~3 feet, then it is almost ideal.

Since the OP has a 26" 720p HDTV... it really doesn't matter, does it?

HMtheJJ · 05-18-2008, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dadkins

Misconception.
If the display is 1080p, and the viewing distance is ~3 feet, then it is almost ideal.

Since the OP has a 26" 720p HDTV... it really doesn't matter, does it?

oh wait, i meant to say TVs are under 40inch!

and whatever it is, if he bought a 40 or 46 Bravia XBR5, then all things would be GOOD!

dadkins · 05-18-2008, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMtheJJ

oh wait, i meant to say TVs are under 40inch!

and whatever it is, if he bought a 40 or 46 Bravia XBR5, then all things would be GOOD!

Well, yeah!

If the OP's TV was 1920x1080p, and was ~3 feet away... he would be ok.
For a living room, the XBR would be better.

BStecke · 05-18-2008, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMtheJJ

actually NO, becuz if you changed from one type of cable to the other, the TV would be blank, however, he could see the video, which means he did set up correctly. and that's the good thing about HDMI, cuz everything is auto set by the standard. if he had a PS3, turn it off, and then press and hold the power on button until the PS3 and HDMI cable auto configure the settings.

Actually, YES . . . if the PS3 is only set to output @ 480p, then obviously it's not setup properly. The PS3 wouldn't output nothing just by changing to HDMI.

05-17-2008, 08:03 PM	#1
horrorfreak889 Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Smithtown, Longisland NY Blu-ray reviews:27	HDMI cable made it worse!!! So i finally got an HDMI cable, after being screamed at on this website from people saying "You arent using an hdmi cable!! your stupid!" Well I am new to this whole bluray thing. I have a 26 inch lcd hdtv, and a sony bluray player. I got the hdmi cables from amazon.com, they were about $8 and i hooked it up. I know i hooked it up in the right spot, because there is only 2 areas where you can plug it in correctly. Anyway, i poped in a movie, and noticed no change in the PQ/SQ. When I play regular dvds, the picture looks worse..... So basically I wasted my money

05-17-2008, 08:56 PM	#6
dadkins Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Hercules, CA Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:2	Since OP has not mentioned what viewing distance he is at, any comment on screen size is a waste. PLUS if this is the HDTV the OP has: http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/produ....do?oid=194702 ... it is only 720p. BDs will look good, but won't be displaying at 1080 no matter what settings are used. Last edited by dadkins; 05-17-2008 at 09:00 PM.

05-17-2008, 09:26 PM	#7
X-Ninja Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:North Bay, Ontario Posts: Over 1100.......... PSNetwork- Axecution Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:6	26'? So... its a 720p TV then. Im not even sure if 1080p 26 inchers exist. Probably not... You need a new TV if you really want to see a HUGE defference from BD to DVD. Im not rushing you. Im just saying... You might wanna start putting 5 bucks a week into a new TV and eventually get a new TV. Maybe a 1080p Bravia? Point is - 26' is pretty small... As for the SQ. The sound isnt gonna change if your playing it through the speakers of your TV. You need a new receiver. I suggest the Onkyo 605. It does all the HD audio, and is one of the cheapest. You can pick them up for a near 399. EDIT: Are you sure your BD Player is set to output to 720p? Who knows... It could be displaying in 480i... Not sure how BD players even work. PS3 > all. Last edited by X-Ninja; 05-17-2008 at 09:31 PM.

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05-17-2008, 08:29 PM	#2
beauwalnut New Member Member since:May 2008	The best way to see a bluray is with a hdmi cable. However your tv is so small that your eye cant really see the difference. “up converting” a regular dvd is often *not* an improvement. On the positive side, some bluray movies in the future may have a copy protection that will only allow full resolution when using a hdmi cable. If and when that happens you are ready.

05-17-2008, 08:30 PM	#3
X400 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Kent Blu-ray collection:328 Blu-ray reviews:41 Trading Score:23	26" lcd??? your right you wouldnt notice any difference at all in pq.. its too small :/

05-17-2008, 08:49 PM	#4
FilmmakingFiasco Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Minneapolis, MN Blu-ray collection:297 Trading Score:17	Have you checked your Blu-ray player menu for DVD upscaling options? Some Blu-ray players will set upscale different for component or HDMI. Make sure that the upscaling is turned on for HDMI.

05-17-2008, 08:52 PM	#5
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	Just to piggyback on the above post . . . have you gone through the display settings on the PS3 and set it up to output in HD? If you were just using the composite cables, just plugging in an HDMI cable won't make any difference. You have to set it up properly.

05-17-2008, 09:28 PM	#8
gearyt Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Henderson, NV Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:33	most of the above......

05-17-2008, 09:32 PM	#9
Marine Mike The Busey Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Ohio Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:120 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:4	I don't think its the HDMI cable that is the issue as I've never seen an 'improvement' with a movie player that 'upconverts' a DVD, if anything depending on the movie, it exploits its flaws even more.

05-17-2008, 10:13 PM	#10
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	...you have to calibrate for the HDMI input. What looked good using another input will not be set for the HDMI input.

05-17-2008, 10:50 PM	#12
sleazypig Active Member Member since:Oct 2007	Don't buy 8 dollar Hdmi cables either. Your buying crap.

05-17-2008, 10:56 PM	#13
un4gvn94538 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Limbo (Bakersfield, Ca.) 4K collection:143 Blu-ray collection:811 DVD collection:54 Digital collection:1494 Trading Score:277	i have a blu player in my computer. i have a 19" 720p monitor and can tell the difference with blu. hell, i just tried my ps3 to see what games would look like at 720p and what a difference! even though the monitor was in my lap practically, i might have to use that when playing. since this is the second thread i have read by the op and still hes having issues, something is definately wrong with the set up

05-18-2008, 12:58 AM	#15
Petra_Kalbrain Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Vancouver, BC 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:561 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	All of the above EXCEPT THE YAHOO THAT STATED $8 HDMI IS CRAP! MONSTER CABLES cost less than $10 to manufacture!!!

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