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JonBoy · 12-24-2006, 05:16 PM

If a copy of a BD movie can be made without any attemp to override copyright protection, why can't it be played back?

Dave · 12-24-2006, 05:43 PM

That is the purpose of the copy protection. The copy is unusable (for now)

theknub · 12-24-2006, 05:54 PM

eventually, the managed copy system (or whatever it is called) will be implemented. at that point, you will legally beable to make a copy for personal use.

JonBoy · 12-24-2006, 06:58 PM

Copy protection that destroys private property has to be illegal. Ther are people in jail and others that had to pay large sums of money for law suit judgements for setting booby traps that led to either injury or damage to personal property regardless of the ill intent of the victim. Copying is only illegal if you do something to purposely override the protection. This copy process went without any problems at all and without using any means to override any protection. The files on both disks are identical, Power DVD tries to play the copied movie but my "Sony, BWU-100A" refuses to read it. Sony was all too happy to take my $749.00 when I bought the burner, the burner was all too happy to make the copy for me, the Sony people seem all too happy with themselves for comming up with this cute little desception. I wonder how happy they would feel about a class action law suit.

theknub · 12-24-2006, 08:09 PM

umm, does the drive still work? i.e. can you read a pressed BR disc and/or still write a disc? if so, then the drive is not damaged.

as for what you have described, not one thing has been damaged

JonBoy · 12-24-2006, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theknub

umm, does the drive still work? i.e. can you read a pressed BR disc and/or still write a disc? if so, then the drive is not damaged.

as for what you have described, not one thing has been damaged

I have a useless $20.00 Blue-Ray disk as a result taking legal steps to make a copy of a movie. The protection should have stopped the copy from being made in the first place, not render someone elses private property useless.

theknub · 12-24-2006, 09:28 PM

the only reason your disc is useless is because of the method YOU used to make the copy. sooner or later, there will be a proper method for making personal copies.

FYI, making copies of DVD's is illegal. if you can show me a case where it is legal, then please show me where. don't just state it, but give us a link to the case or something offering proof.

BR will eventually be offering something where this won't be a concern. it just has not been implemented yet.

Dave · 12-25-2006, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonBoy

I have a useless $20.00 Blue-Ray disk as a result taking legal steps to make a copy of a movie. The protection should have stopped the copy from being made in the first place, not render someone elses private property useless.

What are you saying? That the original disk is damaged or what?
If you dont break the BD in half it would play on every player or drive out there!

12-24-2006, 05:16 PM	#1
JonBoy Junior Member Member since:Dec 2006	BD copies If a copy of a BD movie can be made without any attemp to override copyright protection, why can't it be played back?

12-24-2006, 06:58 PM	#4
JonBoy Junior Member Member since:Dec 2006	illegal!!! Copy protection that destroys private property has to be illegal. Ther are people in jail and others that had to pay large sums of money for law suit judgements for setting booby traps that led to either injury or damage to personal property regardless of the ill intent of the victim. Copying is only illegal if you do something to purposely override the protection. This copy process went without any problems at all and without using any means to override any protection. The files on both disks are identical, Power DVD tries to play the copied movie but my "Sony, BWU-100A" refuses to read it. Sony was all too happy to take my $749.00 when I bought the burner, the burner was all too happy to make the copy for me, the Sony people seem all too happy with themselves for comming up with this cute little desception. I wonder how happy they would feel about a class action law suit.

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12-24-2006, 05:43 PM	#2
Dave Expert Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Somewhere	That is the purpose of the copy protection. The copy is unusable (for now)

12-24-2006, 05:54 PM	#3
theknub Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2006	eventually, the managed copy system (or whatever it is called) will be implemented. at that point, you will legally beable to make a copy for personal use.

12-24-2006, 08:09 PM	#5
theknub Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2006	umm, does the drive still work? i.e. can you read a pressed BR disc and/or still write a disc? if so, then the drive is not damaged. as for what you have described, not one thing has been damaged

12-24-2006, 09:28 PM	#7
theknub Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2006	the only reason your disc is useless is because of the method YOU used to make the copy. sooner or later, there will be a proper method for making personal copies. FYI, making copies of DVD's is illegal. if you can show me a case where it is legal, then please show me where. don't just state it, but give us a link to the case or something offering proof. BR will eventually be offering something where this won't be a concern. it just has not been implemented yet.

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