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Old 05-27-2008, 01:34 PM   #1
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for those of you who have the Bluray Ratatouille as I do, at the very beginning when the food critique is talking in that black and white scene, you can see him inside an old type of tv, just when the movie begins. Did you guys notice how that old tv screen is visible in the movie but that old tv wooden frame top is NOT ?

ok this is not the old black bars issue I want to ask about, this is just to check whether a little bit of picture has been chopped off the top and the bottom in the bluray version ?
Well to know for sure I'd have to remember when I saw Ratatouille at the cinema if that top and bottom were missing too in which case it's intended but if they were there it would mean that this is not the full 2.40:1 cinema frame for the bluray.

So what do you guys think ?
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It's a CG movie, I doubt that they framed the movie after rendering out obsolete footage.
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It's a CG movie, I doubt that they framed the movie after rendering out obsolete footage.

If Pixar wanted you to see the entire TV, you'd see it.
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It's a CG movie, I doubt that they framed the movie after rendering out obsolete footage.
QFT. framing only applies to real movies.
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If Pixar wanted you to see the entire TV, you'd see it.
Exactly. And when you think how much work goes into building scenes for a CG movie it's just mandatory for the director to decide on the framing before they build and render the scene.
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A reminder that computer animation is done on a computer with a 16 x 10 monitor and then is cropped for the theater. Some of the previous Pixar films were released on DVD in 16x9 for the home consumer to see without black bars if they had an HD tv. I read an article that I believe was in Sound and Vision magazine a few years back that discussed the process of computer animation formats used by Pixar and the theatrical release vs the DVD.
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A reminder that computer animation is done on a computer with a 16 x 10 monitor and then is cropped for the theater. Some of the previous Pixar films were released on DVD in 16x9 for the home consumer to see without black bars if they had an HD tv. I read an article that I believe was in Sound and Vision magazine a few years back that discussed the process of computer animation formats used by Pixar and the theatrical release vs the DVD.
Uhm, no.

You can frame for 2.40 while still keeping the action safe for 1.78. But you can hardly contain all of the action for 1.33 which would be the P&S version.

It started with A Bug's Life. What Pixar did was moved the action within the 1.33 frame for the P&S version. It meant re-rendering the entire movie again after the film version was rendered. This means that a lot of work is created because of the P&S version; this is true for live-action films as well.

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A reminder that computer animation is done on a computer with a 16 x 10 monitor and then is cropped for the theater... :
I have a 4:3 1600x1200 computer screen for 3D work at the office. So? I can still render a scene for any format that's needed. It's just a work tool, not a standard.
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Not saying that's what happened here but if you transfer a 2000 pixel wide image to 1920 you either have to resize a couple of % or to crop a couple of %. Which one do you think would be better for BD
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If they created the movie for 2K (2048) you could be right, and cropping off the few pixels on the side would harm the PQ less that resizing I guess. But the OP was talking about cropping top and bottom
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