Tom Cruise - Blu-ray Forum

jadedeath · 07-15-2008, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by UPSandy

i know this is a stretch.........but i can honestly see tom cruise playing a great riddler....just combine his masterful performance from magnolia with that of vincent from collateral and i think you got a winner

Just get him ranting about Scientology and you'll have no problems with Batman being able to try and riddle out what the hell he's yammering on about.

Logan

UPSandy · 07-15-2008, 04:00 AM

i know hes a cheeseball but that doesnt take away from his acting ability

blooded predator · 07-15-2008, 04:01 AM

yeah no tom cruise is a horrible actor and should never get a theatrical release ever again

UPSandy · 07-15-2008, 04:02 AM

you just dont like the guy....i think hes a very good actor...i could care less how he chooses to live his personal life

blooded predator · 07-15-2008, 04:04 AM

im not just talking about his personal life cause i could care less what he does i am speaking from his movies the guy just sucks does not have any good movies at all and never will he simply cannot act whatsoever

UPSandy · 07-15-2008, 04:05 AM

rent born on the fourth of july....i believe he got an oscar nom for that one.....

blooded predator · 07-15-2008, 04:09 AM

yeah tom cruise and an oscar just does not mix sorry doesnt matter if he wins any kind of an award i do not and simply will not watch any of his movies ever he sucks so bad and so and so on.

fighthefutureofhd · 07-15-2008, 04:18 AM

um, tom cruise has been nominated for an oscar a few times. it's no mistake either. like the guy or not. he is a talented actor. whatever your hang ups are about him personally are YOUR hang ups. you should let it go. rent born on the fourth or july or even jerry maguire. the guy can act.

blooded predator · 07-15-2008, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

um, tom cruise has been nominated for an oscar a few times. it's no mistake either. like the guy or not. he is a talented actor. whatever your hang ups are about him personally are YOUR hang ups. you should let it go. rent born on the fourth or july or even jerry maguire. the guy can act.

its not any hangups on the guy personally its his acting he sounds like a high pitched whiny crybaby and cannot act.just my opinion though

fighthefutureofhd · 07-15-2008, 01:15 PM

well that may be, but he can still act and do it much better than most actors out there. stallone anyone?

though i think if we're picking actors that just plain suck, for me it would have to be daniel day lewis. though i freely admit that part of it is personally. he just makes my skin crawl.

theprophecy247 · 07-15-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blooded predator

im not just talking about his personal life cause i could care less what he does i am speaking from his movies the guy just sucks does not have any good movies at all and never will he simply cannot act whatsoever

yeh its pretty sad how people pre judge things. Cruise has been a brillant actor for decades now and as some cult classics (Top gun, A few good men) yet people just hate on him becuase of his private life. Who the hell cares what he does privatley hes not getting paid for that, hes getting paid for his acting and that what we should appercaite. People who say hes a bad actor are people who either just simply dislike him or people who simply dont know acting. The fact is Cruise is a weirdo, but he can act, and we watch him act, not do his personally stuff, god knows what we all do in our personal lives, leave the guy alone, he makes good flicks and his name is still very marketable. If it wasnt for Scientology people would still see him as a top actor.

blooded predator · 07-15-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by theprophecy247

yeh its pretty sad how people pre judge things. Cruise has been a brillant actor for decades now and as some cult classics (Top gun, A few good men) yet people just hate on him becuase of his private life. Who the hell cares what he does privatley hes not getting paid for that, hes getting paid for his acting and that what we should appercaite. People who say hes a bad actor are people who either just simply dislike him or people who simply dont know acting. The fact is Cruise is a weirdo, but he can act, and we watch him act, not do his personally stuff, god knows what we all do in our personal lives, leave the guy alone, he makes good flicks and his name is still very marketable. If it wasnt for Scientology people would still see him as a top actor.

yet here we go again never said anything bout his personal life i dont like his acting or his movies i have never found one of his movies to be enjoyable to the least bit,again this is to say other people cant like him just not me then again this is only my opinion.

johnnymech · 07-15-2008, 02:37 PM

This thread proves that there's no such thing as Separation of Church and State. People hear the name "Tom Cruise" and think of Scientology because you can't remove a person from their values. Religion gives people their values, and values determine a person's behavior.

But back to Tom Cruise, I dare anyone to watch him in "Eyes Wide Shut" or "Magnolia" and walk away thinking he's not brilliant in those.

blooded predator · 07-15-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnymech

This thread proves that there's no such thing as Separation of Church and State. People hear the name "Tom Cruise" and think of Scientology because you can't remove a person from their values. Religion gives people their values, and values determine a person's behavior.

But back to Tom Cruise, I dare anyone to watch him in "Eyes Wide Shut" or "Magnolia" and walk away thinking he's not brilliant in those.

i will and i was not impressed by either of those then again just my opinion.

PS3-Playb3yond · 07-15-2008, 08:44 PM

Tom may be a good actor but I don't think he would play the part well enough. We need someone to replace Jim Carrey so....it won't be easy chosing the right actor.

SS316SRV · 07-15-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blooded predator

i will and i was not impressed by either of those then again just my opinion.

A Few Good Men?! Tom Cruise has had many, many great roles. It is just too bad now that people cannot seperate his acting and movies, from his personal life. I hope he continues to make good films, because he has that potential.

blooded predator · 07-15-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SS316SRV

A Few Good Men?! Tom Cruise has had many, many great roles. It is just too bad now that people cannot seperate his acting and movies, from his personal life. I hope he continues to make good films, because he has that potential.

also not impressed only thing good in that movie was jack nicholsen and some supporting cast

awre · 07-15-2008, 09:05 PM

I just really don't think he is that good of an actor. In every picture he plays you see him as "Tom Cruise" -- you never really see him as the screen persona. Really great actors, to me, are those that really make you believe they are the person they are playing in the film--with Tom you don't get this--you just get Tom. Early in his career he could get away with this when you didn't know who he really was--now no matter what he plays you see only him and never seem to get into his character.

Truly great actors loose their identity in that of their characters--look at the Peter O'Toole, Anthony Hopkins, or even Heath Leger types. They become the characters they play and you in the audience believe this too.

And one other point: Oscar nominations are more parts political vs. stand alone acting ability--i.e., who is "in" the Hollywood click. I have seen too many good acting performances not get nominated in favor of lesser performances by the "in vogue" Hollywood "A" list performers or owing to political considerations. Every great acting performance not nominated only means that a lesser performance is given undue recognition.

I own over 100 BD's and none have Tom Cruise--and I anticiapte none will ever make my collection. But remember, I think the same about Tom Hanks!!

Whytewash · 07-15-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by awre

I own over 100 BD's and none have Tom Cruise--and I anticiapte none will ever make my collection. But remember, I think the same about Tom Hanks!!

You have lost all credibility in my mind. i am seriously speechless.

surfdude12 · 07-15-2008, 09:21 PM

i don't take any opinion seriously unless its supported by FACTS AND REASONING (eg. "in scene __ of movie __, cruise's character should have shown ____ emotion, and couldn't pull it off"); tougher to do, as it requires (1) you know what you're talking about, and (2) your opinion is opened up for criticism;

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07-15-2008, 04:00 AM	#2
UPSandy Active Member Member since:Feb 2008	i know hes a cheeseball but that doesnt take away from his acting ability

07-15-2008, 04:01 AM	#3
blooded predator Senior Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:reno,nv Blu-ray collection:34 Blu-ray reviews:1	yeah no tom cruise is a horrible actor and should never get a theatrical release ever again

07-15-2008, 04:02 AM	#4
UPSandy Active Member Member since:Feb 2008	you just dont like the guy....i think hes a very good actor...i could care less how he chooses to live his personal life

07-15-2008, 04:04 AM	#5
blooded predator Senior Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:reno,nv Blu-ray collection:34 Blu-ray reviews:1	im not just talking about his personal life cause i could care less what he does i am speaking from his movies the guy just sucks does not have any good movies at all and never will he simply cannot act whatsoever

07-15-2008, 04:05 AM	#6
UPSandy Active Member Member since:Feb 2008	rent born on the fourth of july....i believe he got an oscar nom for that one.....

07-15-2008, 04:09 AM	#7
blooded predator Senior Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:reno,nv Blu-ray collection:34 Blu-ray reviews:1	yeah tom cruise and an oscar just does not mix sorry doesnt matter if he wins any kind of an award i do not and simply will not watch any of his movies ever he sucks so bad and so and so on.

07-15-2008, 04:18 AM	#8
fighthefutureofhd Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Dry County	um, tom cruise has been nominated for an oscar a few times. it's no mistake either. like the guy or not. he is a talented actor. whatever your hang ups are about him personally are YOUR hang ups. you should let it go. rent born on the fourth or july or even jerry maguire. the guy can act.

07-15-2008, 01:15 PM	#10
fighthefutureofhd Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Dry County	well that may be, but he can still act and do it much better than most actors out there. stallone anyone? though i think if we're picking actors that just plain suck, for me it would have to be daniel day lewis. though i freely admit that part of it is personally. he just makes my skin crawl.

07-15-2008, 02:37 PM	#13
johnnymech Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Eastern, USA 4K collection:22 Blu-ray collection:577 DVD collection:633 Blu-ray reviews:4	This thread proves that there's no such thing as Separation of Church and State. People hear the name "Tom Cruise" and think of Scientology because you can't remove a person from their values. Religion gives people their values, and values determine a person's behavior. But back to Tom Cruise, I dare anyone to watch him in "Eyes Wide Shut" or "Magnolia" and walk away thinking he's not brilliant in those.

07-15-2008, 08:44 PM	#15
PS3-Playb3yond Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Cincinnati, OH Blu-ray collection:19 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:13	Tom may be a good actor but I don't think he would play the part well enough. We need someone to replace Jim Carrey so....it won't be easy chosing the right actor.

07-15-2008, 09:05 PM	#18
awre Member Member since:Jan 2008	I just really don't think he is that good of an actor. In every picture he plays you see him as "Tom Cruise" -- you never really see him as the screen persona. Really great actors, to me, are those that really make you believe they are the person they are playing in the film--with Tom you don't get this--you just get Tom. Early in his career he could get away with this when you didn't know who he really was--now no matter what he plays you see only him and never seem to get into his character. Truly great actors loose their identity in that of their characters--look at the Peter O'Toole, Anthony Hopkins, or even Heath Leger types. They become the characters they play and you in the audience believe this too. And one other point: Oscar nominations are more parts political vs. stand alone acting ability--i.e., who is "in" the Hollywood click. I have seen too many good acting performances not get nominated in favor of lesser performances by the "in vogue" Hollywood "A" list performers or owing to political considerations. Every great acting performance not nominated only means that a lesser performance is given undue recognition. I own over 100 BD's and none have Tom Cruise--and I anticiapte none will ever make my collection. But remember, I think the same about Tom Hanks!!

07-15-2008, 09:21 PM	#20
surfdude12 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Club Loop Blu-ray collection:343 Blu-ray reviews:112 Trading Score:1	i don't take any opinion seriously unless its supported by FACTS AND REASONING (eg. "in scene __ of movie __, cruise's character should have shown ____ emotion, and couldn't pull it off"); tougher to do, as it requires (1) you know what you're talking about, and (2) your opinion is opened up for criticism;

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