Have Paramount dropped the PCM Soundtrack on Transformers? <- TrueHD - Blu-ray Forum

Blu-Boy in BKK · 08-12-2008, 06:14 AM

The reason i asked is that a short while ago i looked at scans (eripmedvd) and i states that audio is just Dolby TrueHD and no mention of the Uncompressed PCM or indeed DD+ that we were initially informed would be on the disc. Can anyone confirm or deny whether this is so.

lgans316 · 08-12-2008, 06:41 AM

Same question here.

http://images.dvdempire.com/gen/movies/1409331bh.jpg

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...sformers5.html

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The film itself will be presented in 1080p widescreen, along with English Dolby Digital Plus 5.1

, Dolby TrueHD 5.1, and PCM 5.1(uncompressed) tracks

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=67873

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TRANSFORMERS really delivers on all of the promises of the Blu-ray technology and we’re happy to finally bring Michael Bay’s true vision to life with this release,” said Rob Moore, Vice Chairman, Paramount Pictures. “Because of Blu-ray’s expanded capacity we are able to elevate the bit rate used for the picture as well as present uncompressed audio in the form of Dolby True HD

ManBearPig · 08-12-2008, 06:44 AM

I cant believe its under a month away holy shit. Ive been waiting for this since last October

Mr. Cinema · 08-12-2008, 11:07 AM

It's TrueHD only. Check out the back cover scan at DVD Empire.

Giyomu · 08-12-2008, 11:13 AM

make a poll

I vote for DTrue HD

MacDaddyOJack · 08-12-2008, 11:17 AM

The only mention of audio I see on the back cover is the TrueHD symbol. There is no symbol for PCM that they can put on the bottom of the back cover so if they have said it will have PCM, then it will probably still have PCM. This release is due out pretty soon, I would imagine that if they had dropped any audio tracks, we would have heard about it by now.

Regardless of whether they have dropped PCM or not, that TrueHD track is going to sound incredible.

Lucy Diamond · 08-12-2008, 01:12 PM

We'll find out soon enough.

Blu Titan · 08-12-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ManBearPig

I cant believe its under a month away holy shit. Ive been waiting for this since last October

I am n the same boat. It has been a very long wait.

Scorxpion · 08-12-2008, 02:26 PM

just a couple more weeks and we will have transformers then at the end of September we will have Iron Man

It is confirmed by Mr.Bill Hunt that Transformers will include only DolbyTHD but a new encode supervised by Mr,Bay.

jkwest · 08-12-2008, 02:34 PM

whats wrong with just TrueHD? Is it because your receiver doesn't accept that type?

bases1616 · 08-12-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jkwest

whats wrong with just TrueHD? Is it because your receiver doesn't accept that type?

DTHD should be just fine as long as it is 24-bit. Uncompressed audio or DTHD at 24-bit should be no difference.

X400 · 08-12-2008, 02:44 PM

As long as theres a lossless track, im happy!

I prefer PCM tho (just cuz im anal i guess)

ganthc · 08-12-2008, 03:25 PM

I'm excited about this coming out, because I know a lot of hd-dvd fanboys made a point of saying that DD+ at 1.5mbps was just as good as lossless. I want to hear Transformers in lossless to compare with the lossy track. I will make a prediction that the bass levels and overall "thickness" to the sound will be much improved. I remember being blown away in theaters with a wall of sound, and I never really got that immersive feel from the hd-dvd version. Transformers NEEDED a lossless audio track, and now it gets one.

DetroitSportsFan · 08-12-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by X400

As long as theres a lossless track, im happy!

I agree, no complaints here as long as it's one of the lossless formats.

hollywoodguy · 08-12-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ganthc

I'm excited about this coming out, because I know a lot of hd-dvd fanboys made a point of saying that DD+ at 1.5mbps was just as good as lossless. I want to hear Transformers in lossless to compare with the lossy track. I will make a prediction that the bass levels and overall "thickness" to the sound will be much improved. I remember being blown away in theaters with a wall of sound, and I never really got that immersive feel from the hd-dvd version. Transformers NEEDED a lossless audio track, and now it gets one.

While I have no doubt that TrueHD will sound better than DD+, your theater experience had nothing to do with the bitrate of the soundtrack. That wall of sound that blew you away was 320kbps Dolby Digital.

mikenike · 08-12-2008, 04:36 PM

Either PCM or 24-bit TrueHD track would sound great. Paramount has done a great job on their post-format war releases so far, and I'm betting Transformers will be no different.

Scorxpion · 08-12-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mikenike

Either PCM or 24-bit TrueHD track would sound great. Paramount has done a great job on their post-format war releases so far, and I'm betting Transformers will be no different.

Yes True,i'm just excited to read a first review for this movie.

Guess what i havent watched this movie before,neither in theater nor in DVD nor in HD-DVD (because i dont own one).Now i'm watching it for the first time ON BD.Just only on Blu-Ray Disc.

Even Iron Man never watched it before,just i watched The Dark Knight

CptGreedle · 08-12-2008, 04:44 PM

Iron Man was never out on HD-DVD. This is the first release of the film to DVD and Blu-ray.
I think you will enjoy this movie, it is still among the best of the year.

I personally don't care if it is PCM or not. As long as it is lossless, it is good enough for me. The slight differences, if there are any (which is debatable), are not enough to benefit one over the other to me. Both sound awesome and I am looking forward to seeing this movie at home.

I just wish more films would support lossless 7.1.

CYMBOL · 08-12-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CptGreedle

I just wish more films would support lossless 7.1.

My question - why don't they. If Lionsgate can put it on every release (heck, even their lame comedies come with 7.1 lossless!) - why can't the other major studios.

Like I've said before, for $30-$40 a disc, I should have the best quality with the most options on every disc - nothing less.

Alan Gordon · 08-12-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CYMBOL

My question - why don't they. If Lionsgate can put it on every release (heck, even their lame comedies come with 7.1 lossless!) - why can't the other major studios.

Like I've said before, for $30-$40 a disc, I should have the best quality with the most options on every disc - nothing less.

Most films are not mixed in 7.1.

Mi Casa who handles Lionsgate's releases created DISCRETE 7.1 mixes for their mixes. They used to do the same for New Line as well until WB took over New Line's operations. Disney's has "Sleeping Beauty", and "A Nightmare Before Christmas" (among others) coming out with 7.1 sound, and odds are that they will be discrete as well, but the other studios do not appear to see much benefit in it...

~Alan

08-12-2008, 06:14 AM	#1
Blu-Boy in BKK Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Staines-upon-Thames: UK Blu-ray collection:427 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:11	Have Paramount dropped the PCM Soundtrack on Transformers? <- TrueHD The reason i asked is that a short while ago i looked at scans (eripmedvd) and i states that audio is just Dolby TrueHD and no mention of the Uncompressed PCM or indeed DD+ that we were initially informed would be on the disc. Can anyone confirm or deny whether this is so.

08-12-2008, 11:07 AM	#4
Mr. Cinema Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Location:NC 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:85	It's TrueHD only. Check out the back cover scan at DVD Empire. Last edited by Mr. Cinema; 08-12-2008 at 11:12 AM.

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08-12-2008, 06:44 AM	#3
ManBearPig Member Member since:Aug 2008	I cant believe its under a month away holy shit. Ive been waiting for this since last October

08-12-2008, 11:13 AM	#5
Giyomu Banned Member since:Sep 2007 Location:France Blu-ray collection:347 Blu-ray reviews:6	make a poll I vote for DTrue HD

08-12-2008, 11:17 AM	#6
MacDaddyOJack Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Richmond, VA PSNetwork: MacDaddyOJack Trophy Level: 12(4%) Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:71 Blu-ray reviews:23 Trading Score:4	The only mention of audio I see on the back cover is the TrueHD symbol. There is no symbol for PCM that they can put on the bottom of the back cover so if they have said it will have PCM, then it will probably still have PCM. This release is due out pretty soon, I would imagine that if they had dropped any audio tracks, we would have heard about it by now. Regardless of whether they have dropped PCM or not, that TrueHD track is going to sound incredible.

08-12-2008, 01:12 PM	#7
Lucy Diamond Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:The Tomb of Annihilation 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:3	We'll find out soon enough.

08-12-2008, 02:26 PM	#9
Scorxpion Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Middle East,Lebanon Blu-ray collection:57	just a couple more weeks and we will have transformers then at the end of September we will have Iron Man It is confirmed by Mr.Bill Hunt that Transformers will include only DolbyTHD but a new encode supervised by Mr,Bay.

08-12-2008, 02:34 PM	#10
jkwest Off-Topic King Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Northern California PSN Id: jkwest5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:20	whats wrong with just TrueHD? Is it because your receiver doesn't accept that type?

08-12-2008, 02:44 PM	#12
X400 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Kent Blu-ray collection:328 Blu-ray reviews:41 Trading Score:23	As long as theres a lossless track, im happy! I prefer PCM tho (just cuz im anal i guess)

08-12-2008, 03:25 PM	#13
ganthc Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Vienna, VA 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:651 Blu-ray reviews:2	I'm excited about this coming out, because I know a lot of hd-dvd fanboys made a point of saying that DD+ at 1.5mbps was just as good as lossless. I want to hear Transformers in lossless to compare with the lossy track. I will make a prediction that the bass levels and overall "thickness" to the sound will be much improved. I remember being blown away in theaters with a wall of sound, and I never really got that immersive feel from the hd-dvd version. Transformers NEEDED a lossless audio track, and now it gets one.

08-12-2008, 04:36 PM	#16
mikenike Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray collection:206	Either PCM or 24-bit TrueHD track would sound great. Paramount has done a great job on their post-format war releases so far, and I'm betting Transformers will be no different.

08-12-2008, 04:44 PM	#18
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	Iron Man was never out on HD-DVD. This is the first release of the film to DVD and Blu-ray. I think you will enjoy this movie, it is still among the best of the year. I personally don't care if it is PCM or not. As long as it is lossless, it is good enough for me. The slight differences, if there are any (which is debatable), are not enough to benefit one over the other to me. Both sound awesome and I am looking forward to seeing this movie at home. I just wish more films would support lossless 7.1.

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