Chinese Gymnists Cheated?

[stockstar1138]

http://olympics.timesofindia.indiati...ow/3365641.cms

heard about the radio this morning and then saw it at work.

i didn't even realize there was an age min. in the olympics. i was watching the gymnastics last night and my girlfriend and i were trying to guess the ages of some of the gymnastics and for about 3-4 of the chinese ones we both said 12-14-13-11 and everytime they were 16. a little too coincidental now that i realize their is an age min. in the gymnastics.

i dunno though, im not that into gymnastics, anybody else think something similar.

[bhampton]

Well,.. It's not Gym-"nice"-tics

(Quoted from the movie Stick it.)

[DetroitSportsFan]

Of course they cheated, there's no way some of those girls were 16.

[Bluoholic]

yeah I read about this this morning in a newspaper... they posted a picture of a girl and there is no way she is 16, I'd give her 14 tops. First Fake fireworks, than lipsynching.. ooh and fake crowds hehe ... it's not getting pretty.

[Josh]

This issue was brought up initially due to the Chinese Olympic website stating as much, and then being pulled down for days. It was ignored by the Olympic Committee. Now its being alledged again because China actually won. Just watch the Olympic Committee once again ignore the issue.

[bhampton]

Well,

At least it's some variety from the usual doping style of olympics cheaters.

Gotta give it props for that.

-Brian

[tommyboy81]

I don't get how having younger girls is cheating. If a 12 year old girl can beat a 16 or 18 year old then theres something we're not doing.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Josh

This issue was brought up initially due to the Chinese Olympic website stating as much, and then being pulled down for days. It was ignored by the Olympic Committee. Now its being alledged again because China actually won. Just watch the Olympic Committee once again ignore the issue.

Apparently, the birth certificates (which could be date tested) for the girls in question have gone missing, and the IOC are relying on passports.

It's the same old story with authoritarian regimes: State sponsored cheating.

Gary

[stockstar1138]

i really hope the IOC and the USA doesn't let this fly.

You tell them to produce the legit birth certificates or are all chinese gymnists are stripped of their golds. that would take away about half of chinas gold medals.

i was very impressed at the beginning of these olympics with chinas presentation and their athletes, now i have realized their "olympics" is exactly like the rest of their country: fraud and fakes.

[Bigdog]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Apparently, the birth certificates (which could be date tested) for the girls in question have gone missing, and the IOC are relying on passports.

It's the same old story with authoritarian regimes: State sponsored cheating.

Gary

Well that pretty much settles the question if they are cheating or not, yeah they just happen to all lose proof of age at the same time , sure china and i have freakin beach front property on the moon!

[john_1958]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

http://olympics.timesofindia.indiati...ow/3365641.cms

heard about the radio this morning and then saw it at work.

i didn't even realize there was an age min. in the olympics. i was watching the gymnastics last night and my girlfriend and i were trying to guess the ages of some of the gymnastics and for about 3-4 of the chinese ones we both said 12-14-13-11 and everytime they were 16. a little too coincidental now that i realize their is an age min. in the gymnastics.

i dunno though, im not that into gymnastics, anybody else think something similar.

what i found hilarious was the swede in wrestling throwing a tantrum because he didn't get gold

[jkwest]

whats funny is that people are making a stink about their ages..when the real problem is that these poor girls are taken from their parents when they are 3 years old and raised to be solely athletes and then thrown away...where are the Human Rights Commission when it comes to this sort of stuff?!

[PNF]

Originally Posted by jkwest

whats funny is that people are making a stink about their ages..when the real problem is that these poor girls are taken from their parents when they are 3 years old and raised to be solely athletes and then thrown away...where are the Human Rights Commission when it comes to this sort of stuff?!

while that often be the case, but most of the girls are chosen from Ophanage facilities at young age.

Actually, have you been to china's rural or even just the sub-urban area outside any major cities such as Beijing, shanghai??

The girls are actually making much more and would accomplish more if they were to train away from home, IF THEY CAN BE CHOSEN, out of millions of children.


Also, the standard is quite different, at least for now, in china, from those in the western states. We worry about if we should have a power conditioner to keep the electric current stable for our home theaters... they are worrying about if they will get the next meal and how they will get it.

Human right? Not until they can be fed first.

[Josh]

Lay off the politics or I will shut this down.

[jkwest]

Originally Posted by Josh

Lay off the politics or I will shut this down.

sorry

[PNF]

Originally Posted by Josh

Lay off the politics or I will shut this down.

my bad.

For what it is worth, the chinese cheated, clearly, regardless of how people say chinese people do look younger etc etc..

Well, I am from Taiwan and the way I see it, they look like my youngest sister (who is 15) or even younger.

The yahoo news talk about how their birth certificate and passport being valid..

DUHHH... If the government is cheating, of course this supposed government document is FAKE as well.

I am not surprised if they cheated anyway, as the Chinese have always been finding ways to take advantages.

[Uxi]

Originally Posted by john_1958

what i found hilarious was the swede in wrestling throwing a tantrum because he didn't get gold

That guy was extremely unprofessional about it, but he has a good gripe. The judge kept unfairly reffing him versus the Italian who won gold. Specifically, he was being called out of the mat (rule used to stop wrestlers from retreating off the mat repeatedly) even though it was just his finger while the italian did NOT get called even though his whole body was going out, at least a half dozen times.

He's alleging corruption, etc etc. He should have done more of a 1972 US Basketball protest and not showed up for the medal instead of his disrespectful drop to the floor of the medal.... but then would be really talking about it?



As far as the Chinese, it seems blatantly obvous that many, if not most, of those girls are under 16. That said, I think the age restriction is rather arbitrary though I do agree with the underlying motive... It's insulting for the Chinese to lie about it, though.

[PNF]

[QUOTE=Uxi;1086721]That guy was extremely unprofessional about it, but he has a good gripe. The judge kept unfairly reffing him versus the Italian who won gold. Specifically, he was being called out of the mat (rule used to stop wrestlers from retreating off the mat repeatedly) even though it was just his finger while the italian did NOT get called even though his whole body was going out, at least a half dozen times.

He's alleging corruption, etc etc. He should have done more of a 1972 US Basketball protest and not showed up for the medal instead of his disrespectful drop to the floor of the medal.... but then would be really talking about it?
[qUOTE]


I dont think i have ever seen a more disrespectful action that that of throwing a medal on the floor...?? and he sounded like Olympic should be glad he was there to compete or something.

Sure, he can be unhappy about where he was, but to throw down a century worth of history on the ground... i mean. .who the F*** he thinks he is?