Super Hi-Vision coming in 2020

[radagast]

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News...x?NewsId=23996

[UPSandy]

it will be available by 2020...............probably wont be afordable till 2027

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

How much more clearer can it get??? Most of us are very,very, happy with blu-ray. Now this???? I think its time to stop buying movies. I wouldn't be surprised if a newer format beats blu-ray. They said 2020? I'll be an old fart by then.

[quexos]

Wow this is very impressive but a tiny bit ambiguous. I mean the article begins taking about a 32K system for 2020 then it goes on talking about an 8K system to become a consumer service by 2020 so which is it, 32K or 8K ?
Note that an 8K would be already quite amazing but just to make things clear which is it ?

Also I see they are keeping the current 1.78:1 wide screen ratio and I was hoping they'd propose a wider ratio that would come closer to actual cinema ratio, something like 2:1 ratio seems a good compromise to me.

[JasonR]

I think the real question is, "How many people would benefit from this system?"

I mean, how many movies can you actually watch in this resolution? And how many people will be able to benefit from the results? You have people now saying there is no difference between 720 and 1080....

Developed by NHK and JVC, Super Hi-Vision Technology (SHV) promises to offer ultrahigh-definition images at a resolution of 7680 x 4320 (32K), which is sixteen higher than the current HDTV systems.

32k is pretty excessive, especially when most people won't be viewing above 50 inches. And super excessive considering that is a higher resolution than all films to date.....

[quexos]

Originally Posted by JasonR

32k is pretty excessive, especially when most people won't be viewing above 50 inches. And super excessive considering that is a higher resolution than all films to date.....

I disagree. Current cinema films are not digital but analogous as they are imprinted in film, they don't per say have resolution lines. I think they can stand to be transfered on a 32K resolution digital copy because they can stand huge cinema screens and I don't think that even by 2020 or even much later, people will start having cinema sized screens (unless they start building much bigger houses). So any home screen from 50" to 100" and more will have no problem displaying pictures made for 1000" cinema screens.

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

Anyone know how big the IMAX screens are at theaters? I'd like one in my living room in the next lifetime.

[JasonR]

Sorry, but I think anything higher than 4k in home (or much any place else for that matter) is rediculous....

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by JasonR

Sorry, but I think anything higher than 4k in home (or much any place else for that matter) is rediculous....

This si very true. 2020 is just...a long wait.

[Oddiophile]

4K is roughly the same resolution as a piece of 35mm film and the resolution digital movies are being shot in. Digital movie theaters are using 2K and 4K projectors, you can purchase these projectors for home use but video scalers and content is just about impossible to get at this time. The higher the resolution the lager the screen can be without losing detail and seeing a visible pixel structure. 4K will be marked to consumers in the near future but probably only in front projectors and 100+ inch rear projection and flat screens.






Click the link to see a comparison chart of 480 vs. 720, 1080, vs 4K.

Video format comparison from standard definition to RED 4k.
http://www.mammothhd.com/MHD_compformat2.html



What is 4K?
The 4K image standard for cinema projection is 4096 x 2160 pixels. This represents four times the resolution of 2K digital cinema and High Definition images.

In the film world, smaller-grain structures enable more detailed images to be exhibited. In the move to digital, pixels replace grain as the basic elements of an image. The smaller the pixel size and the greater the number of pixels in an image frame results in the ability to display more detailed and realistic images.


Comparison of Image Resolutions






An additional benefit of the ultra-high resolution offered by 4K systems is that their on-screen pixel size is incredibly tiny, approximately one quarter the size of pixels displayed by equivalent HD and 2K projectors.

Pixel size is an important consideration for members of the audience seated in the front rows.



2K Cinema


4K Cinema



2.2 Mega pixels

8.85 Mega pixels


Steep, stadium seating is increasingly popular in cinemas to place a greater proportion of the audience closer to the screen in order to enjoy a more immersive experience. The use of 4K projection systems avoids those seated in the front rows witnessing pixel artefacts that may be apparent when lower resolution projectors are used.





The greater resolution offered by 4K enables more detailed, more realistic, more engaging images to be displayed without a visible pixel structure, even when viewed from theatre front rows.


http://www.sony.co.uk/biz/view/ShowC...=1209376176809

[radagast]

Originally Posted by JasonR

Sorry, but I think anything higher than 4k in home (or much any place else for that matter) is rediculous....

I think it will be used for very large displays in the home and elsewhere.

[neckedness]

Super Hi-Vision

2020


LOL how ironic

[Disco]

That would be about the time frame I would expect.

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

Hopefully I'll be rich or alive by 2020 to witness this so-called super advanced high definition because its going to be extremely expensive. Most people probably won't be able to afford it.

[quexos]

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

Hopefully I'll be rich or alive by 2020 to witness this so-called super advanced high definition because its going to be extremely expensive. Most people probably won't be able to afford it.

Yep, give it at least another 10 years before we can all afford it. It's sad but that's the way it is in our liberal systems.

[jdogg172]

Originally Posted by neckedness

Super Hi-Vision

2020


LOL how ironic

Wow that took me a second!

[Themoth]

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

How much more clearer can it get??? Most of us are very,very, happy with blu-ray. Now this???? I think its time to stop buying movies. I wouldn't be surprised if a newer format beats blu-ray. They said 2020? I'll be an old fart by then.

if you'll be an old fart in 2020, I'm afraid 11 years won't change that, your still an old fart....lol

[Themoth]

Originally Posted by jdogg172

Wow that took me a second!

all marketing

[4K2K]

Isn't there an error in the article? In the 2nd paragraph they say it has a "resolution of 7680 x 4320 (32K)". Yet in the 3rd paragraph they call it an 8K system. 7680 pixels across is less than 8,000 so it isn't really 8K, and has about 33 million pixels. The article doesn't mention the frame rate(s) it will use either.