As an Amazon associate we earn from qualifying purchases. Thanks for your support!                               
×

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals


Best Blu-ray Movie Deals, See All the Deals »
Top deals | New deals  
 All countries United States United Kingdom Canada Germany France Spain Italy Australia Netherlands Japan Mexico
Superman I-IV 5-Film Collection 4K (Blu-ray)
$74.99
1 day ago
The Howling 4K (Blu-ray)
$35.99
10 hrs ago
Back to the Future: The Ultimate Trilogy 4K (Blu-ray)
$44.99
 
Back to the Future Part III 4K (Blu-ray)
$24.96
1 day ago
The Bone Collector 4K (Blu-ray)
$33.49
18 hrs ago
Death Wish 3 4K (Blu-ray)
$33.49
20 hrs ago
Jurassic World: 7-Movie Collection 4K (Blu-ray)
$99.99
 
Death Line 4K (Blu-ray)
$34.99
10 hrs ago
Superman 4K (Blu-ray)
$29.95
 
Lawrence of Arabia 4K (Blu-ray)
$30.48
 
It's a Wonderful Life 4K (Blu-ray)
$11.99
6 hrs ago
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Trilogy 4K (Blu-ray)
$70.00
 
What's your next favorite movie?
Join our movie community to find out


Image from: Life of Pi (2012)

Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > Blu-ray > Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-13-2008, 04:15 AM   #1
othello26 othello26 is offline
Member
 
May 2007
1
Default Blu ray audio question

I was wondering, given the increase in replies regarding the recent release of the iron man blu ray film, there have been some individuals complaining that the sound is too low for the true hd track. I agree with them all. Given this, here is my conundrum...

I find that watchining movies with the true hd track are extremely clear, yet, they can be very low. If I were to watch the dvd version of that same film while using a dvd player instead of my blu ray player, and if I were to use the same receiver I always use with my bluray player, the sound is exceptionally loader for the dvd version. of course not clearer, just louder.

Its kind of disapointing because, I would expect something that cost so much and thats so technologically advanced to be not only clear but also louder simultaneously. For some films I have to pump the voulme up to maximum capacities.

I do releaze that there are other audio tracks aside from this. In fact I perfer lossless pcm, its perfect. But since most studios are giving there blurays the true hd track, its almost as if pcm is obsolete.

I wish there were a happy medium between clarity and loudness.

Does anyone else agree with my thoughts? Do you have a solution?
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 04:23 AM   #2
BACsader BACsader is offline
Expert Member
 
BACsader's Avatar
 
Jan 2008
Cooper City FL
29
72
9
1
Default

You mean to say you wish there was a happy medium between clarity and VOLUME. Loudness does not necessarily imply volume.

I completely agree about TrueHD tracks being softer, but I thought Iron Man was one of the exceptions. I did not find myself having to turn it up any louder than I do PCM soundtracks.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 04:53 AM   #3
othello26 othello26 is offline
Member
 
May 2007
1
Default

i actually have read a few times in other discussions that the sound appeared lower than expected. I honestly don't feel like looking for those threads, but i have seen them.

I hate messing with the volume on the ps3 itself because the more you increase the volume the more distorted the sound becomes.

and why did they give the new casino royale bluray a true hd track? they should have kept the uncompressed pcm track. thats one of the reasons why it was the number 1 blu ray of 2007.

the iron man true hd track in my opinion is just as low as the dolby digital track on the speed racer blu ray film. I expect the volume to be low on dolby digital blu ray tracks but not on true hd tracks.

they need to put an end to this.
I guess you can hear my frustration through these threads...
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 06:33 AM   #4
saprano saprano is offline
Blu-ray Champion
 
saprano's Avatar
 
Oct 2007
Bronx, New York
495
2
9
Send a message via AIM to saprano
Default

Dolby uses Dialnorm Thats why there tracks sound lower than the rest.
Did you check and see if your ps3's DRC is on? and you can put the ps3's volume on +1 if you want without distortion, thats what i have mine on. i even tried +2 and i still didn't get distortion or clipping, its to loud though.
you can read this also if you want http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...on-6-2000.html
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 10:07 PM   #5
Yeha-Noha Yeha-Noha is offline
Power Member
 
Yeha-Noha's Avatar
 
Jan 2008
43
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by othello26 View Post
i actually have read a few times in other discussions that the sound appeared lower than expected. I honestly don't feel like looking for those threads, but i have seen them.

I hate messing with the volume on the ps3 itself because the more you increase the volume the more distorted the sound becomes.

and why did they give the new casino royale bluray a true hd track? they should have kept the uncompressed pcm track. thats one of the reasons why it was the number 1 blu ray of 2007.

the iron man true hd track in my opinion is just as low as the dolby digital track on the speed racer blu ray film. I expect the volume to be low on dolby digital blu ray tracks but not on true hd tracks.

they need to put an end to this.
I guess you can hear my frustration through these threads...
I hear your frustration but it's not worth it. You might as well get used to it. Dolby Digital uses dialnorm (= dialogue normalization).

You said, "I hate messing with the volume on the ps3 itself because the more you increase the volume the more distorted the sound becomes." That just isn't true. It's all done in digital not analog. So don't worry, that isn't going to happen. So if the volume is too low, just turn it up to your preferred level. LPCM is often louder, but once you get them both at the same level, lossless LPCM and DD TrueHD should sound identical.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 10:53 PM   #6
kingofgrills kingofgrills is offline
Blu-ray Guru
 
kingofgrills's Avatar
 
Dec 2007
PDX
31
5
81
31
Default

Read Saprano's link above from Hometheaterhifi.com, and you'll begin to understand Dial Norm. The correct solution to the issue is to adjust the volume on your receiver. That's it. There is nothing inherently wrong with Dolby True HD at all.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 07:01 AM   #7
Carlsberg19 Carlsberg19 is offline
Senior Member
 
Carlsberg19's Avatar
 
Apr 2008
Donegal, Ireland
9
58
7
Default

I totally agree, i actually put this to the test when watching "The Kingdom" on DVD and Blu-ray..their is more activity in the rear channels on the DVD and is generally clearer than that on the blu-ray version, i dont understand this.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 09:56 AM   #8
kevin_lk kevin_lk is offline
New Member
 
Oct 2008
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by othello26 View Post
I was wondering, given the increase in replies regarding the recent release of the iron man blu ray film, there have been some individuals complaining that the sound is too low for the true hd track. I agree with them all. Given this, here is my conundrum...

I find that watchining movies with the true hd track are extremely clear, yet, they can be very low. If I were to watch the dvd version of that same film while using a dvd player instead of my blu ray player, and if I were to use the same receiver I always use with my bluray player, the sound is exceptionally loader for the dvd version. of course not clearer, just louder.

Its kind of disapointing because, I would expect something that cost so much and thats so technologically advanced to be not only clear but also louder simultaneously. For some films I have to pump the voulme up to maximum capacities.

I do releaze that there are other audio tracks aside from this. In fact I perfer lossless pcm, its perfect. But since most studios are giving there blurays the true hd track, its almost as if pcm is obsolete.

I wish there were a happy medium between clarity and loudness.

Does anyone else agree with my thoughts? Do you have a solution?
i feel you are right, i agree with what you say.
  Reply With Quote
Reply
Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > Blu-ray > Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology

Similar Threads
thread Forum Thread Starter Replies Last Post
Blu-ray audio question Audio Theory and Discussion FeralAsspigeon 1 01-14-2009 11:53 PM
Blu-ray audio vs. DVD audio (not what you think the question is) Audio Theory and Discussion McGarnigal 2 12-30-2008 04:22 PM
Blu Ray Audio Question Home Theater General Discussion DaPenguinPimP 7 12-28-2008 05:34 PM
Question on new Blu ray and audio codecs? Home Theater General Discussion Sherm 5 10-06-2008 11:53 PM
Blu-ray audio question Newbie Discussion Got2LoveGadgets 19 11-15-2007 11:26 AM



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:21 AM.