New PS3 hardware hits stores, CECH-2101. Contains 40nm RSX, Awesome FAQ inside! - Blu-ray Forum

Maximus · 04-24-2010, 02:01 PM

So it has been confirmed, the newest revision of the PS3 contains a 40nm RSX along with the already 40nm Cell. Power consumption has been lowered by around 10-15%.

What does this mean for me, the consumer?

It means you can buy a console which is going to be less prone to overheating, run with a more quiet fan and consume less power generally.

How can I tell I am buying the new SKU?

If the serial number on the outside of box has "CECH-2001" it is the older revision, if it has "CECH-2101" it is the newer more desirable one.

Does this make a difference to my gaming experience?

No.

If it's cheaper to make why am I still paying $299 for it?

Sony currently sell the PS3 at a loss, this revision enables them to sell the PS3 at break-even and even profit depending on some boring currency stuff. The reason you, the consumer, pays the same is so that Sony stop losing money in the PlayStation division.

Should I wait for the next revision, Sony seem to come out with these very often?

It's really up to you, but the price of the PS3 is going to be $299 for at least another year and there are no major internal revisions planned for another 8-12 months. If you want a PS3 then buying one now or in 6 months won't make a difference.

If I buy this new PS3 will it be outdated by an even newer revision.

No. PS3s by definition are all the same regardless of any internal or even external revisions.

Will the PS3 I buy be able to play all of the games?

Yes. All PS3 games are compatible with all PS3s regardless of what they have inside them.

If this is new, should I wait and see how reliable it is?

You can, but as a general rule - when silicon chips get smaller; hardware becomes more reliable.

When will the awesome new revision be out in Europe?

Summer 2010. Expected early July.

Does it come in 250GB?

Not as yet, but it is expected.

Who can I thank for this awesomely useless FAQ?

Err, you mean useful right?

bferr1 · 04-24-2010, 02:24 PM

Here's one: Does it come in the 250GB flavor?

xtop · 04-24-2010, 02:37 PM

might be time for me to sell off my 60gb and get one of these, mine is starting to get noisy

bseivxx · 04-24-2010, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtop

might be time for me to sell off my 60gb and get one of these, mine is starting to get noisy

i have a 60gb PS3 also and Usually as the dust collects inside the system it gets louder and louder as the fan works harder. Have you tried vacuming your ps3 through the vent holes, I always do at least once a month, or whenever it sounds like it needs it.

Shin-Ra · 04-24-2010, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximus

If I buy this new PS3 will it be outdated by an even newer revision. Will the PS3 I buy be able to play all of the games?

Yes. All PS3 games are compatible with all PS3s regardless of what they have inside them.

The answer to these two questions isn't as clear as it could be.

When can we expect the CECH-210x model in various parts of Europe?

kjacobs03 · 04-24-2010, 03:51 PM

So is this why there has been a shortage? I would also like to know the HD size as I am on the verge of picking up a 2nd PS3.

fltruther · 04-24-2010, 04:00 PM

I wonder if it will have the 3D update already installed?

fltruther · 04-24-2010, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximus

So it has been confirmed, the newest revision of the PS3 contains a 45nm RSX along with the already 45nm Cell. Power consumption has been lowered by around 10-15%.

What does this mean for me, the consumer?

It means you can buy a console which is going to be less prone to overheating, run with a more quiet fan and consume less power generally.

How can I tell I am buying the new SKU?

If the serial number on the outside of box has "CECH-2001" it is the older revision, if it has "CECH-2101" it is the newer more desirable one.

Does this make a difference to my gaming experience?

No.

If it's cheaper to make why am I still paying $299 for it?

Sony currently sell the PS3 at a loss, this revision enables them to sell the PS3 at break-even and even profit depending on some boring currency stuff. The reason you, the consumer, pays the same is so that Sony stop losing money in the PlayStation division.

Should I wait for the next revision, Sony seem to come out with these very often?

It's really up to you, but the price of the PS3 is going to be $299 for at least another year and there are no major internal revisions planned for another 8-12 months. If you want a PS3 then buying one now or in 6 months won't make a difference.

If I buy this new PS3 will it be outdated by an even newer revision. Will the PS3 I buy be able to play all of the games?

Yes. All PS3 games are compatible with all PS3s regardless of what they have inside them.

If this is new, should I wait and see how reliable it is?

You can, but as a general rule - when silicon chips get smaller; hardware becomes more reliable.

Who can I thank for this awesomely useless FAQ?

Err, you mean useful right?

Source??

Elandyll · 04-24-2010, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjacobs03

So is this why there has been a shortage? I would also like to know the HD size as I am on the verge of picking up a 2nd PS3.

I would imagine that with brand new components right around the corner, Sony planned only a limited number of the then new Slim SKU, which sold very well at the $299 price mark. Hopefully with the new model in full swing, the retail channels are going to see reliable shipping of PS3s.

Thanks for the infos Max !! (the bit about the PS3 being now profitable -or at the very least breaking even- should spread rapidly. Seems that blogs LOVE to ramble about the PS3s profitability (or until now lack thereof).

doctorD · 04-24-2010, 04:11 PM

Will these new SKU's have the new HDMI v1.4?

bageleaterkkjji · 04-24-2010, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doctorD

Will these new SKU's have the new HDMI v1.4?

highly doubtful but i hope they have the newest bluetooth in the next revsion

AranhaHunter · 04-24-2010, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fltruther

Source??

Max is an insider but here's the source that the new models are 45nm RSX

In Japanese:

http://pocketnews.cocolog-nifty.com/...post-eed3.html

bageleaterkkjji · 04-24-2010, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fltruther

Source??

http://www.ps3news.com/PlayStation-3...2101b-hit-fcc/ its been known, for 2 months

DeathByAsh'aman · 04-24-2010, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bseivxx

i have a 60gb PS3 also and Usually as the dust collects inside the system it gets louder and louder as the fan works harder. Have you tried vacuming your ps3 through the vent holes, I always do at least once a month, or whenever it sounds like it needs it.

I'm thinking about picking up one of these new models. My fan is loud even after vacuuming it out, taking it apart and cleaning it out, and replacing the thermal compound.

BluRay2344 · 04-24-2010, 05:29 PM

sounds good for anyone buying a PS3 soon!

Sponge-worthy · 04-24-2010, 06:11 PM

Thanks for the info Max

Maximus · 04-24-2010, 07:37 PM

OP edited, questions added.

JonD7 · 04-24-2010, 07:51 PM

Sweet!

ChadFL · 04-24-2010, 07:55 PM

Does it play PS2 games? If not then no thanks, I'll stay with my current model that does.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bferr1

Here's one: Does it come in the 250GB flavor?

Who cares? You do realize it's ridiculously easy to upgrade a PS3 hard drive, right? I upgraded by 60GB model to 250 GB with zero problems.

Clark Kent · 04-24-2010, 07:58 PM

Thanks Max for the information. I might pick up a slim model soon because of the revision.

04-24-2010, 02:01 PM	#1
Maximus Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2006	New PS3 hardware hits stores, CECH-2101. Contains 40nm RSX, Awesome FAQ inside! So it has been confirmed, the newest revision of the PS3 contains a 40nm RSX along with the already 40nm Cell. Power consumption has been lowered by around 10-15%. What does this mean for me, the consumer? It means you can buy a console which is going to be less prone to overheating, run with a more quiet fan and consume less power generally. How can I tell I am buying the new SKU? If the serial number on the outside of box has "CECH-2001" it is the older revision, if it has "CECH-2101" it is the newer more desirable one. Does this make a difference to my gaming experience? No. If it's cheaper to make why am I still paying $299 for it? Sony currently sell the PS3 at a loss, this revision enables them to sell the PS3 at break-even and even profit depending on some boring currency stuff. The reason you, the consumer, pays the same is so that Sony stop losing money in the PlayStation division. Should I wait for the next revision, Sony seem to come out with these very often? It's really up to you, but the price of the PS3 is going to be $299 for at least another year and there are no major internal revisions planned for another 8-12 months. If you want a PS3 then buying one now or in 6 months won't make a difference. If I buy this new PS3 will it be outdated by an even newer revision. No. PS3s by definition are all the same regardless of any internal or even external revisions. Will the PS3 I buy be able to play all of the games? Yes. All PS3 games are compatible with all PS3s regardless of what they have inside them. If this is new, should I wait and see how reliable it is? You can, but as a general rule - when silicon chips get smaller; hardware becomes more reliable. When will the awesome new revision be out in Europe? Summer 2010. Expected early July. Does it come in 250GB? Not as yet, but it is expected. Who can I thank for this awesomely useless FAQ? Err, you mean useful right? Last edited by Maximus; 04-26-2010 at 01:01 PM. Reason: Clarity, extra questions

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04-24-2010, 02:24 PM	#2
bferr1 Banned Member since:Sep 2006 Location:MA Trading Score:18	Here's one: Does it come in the 250GB flavor?

04-24-2010, 02:37 PM	#3
xtop Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Trading Score:3	might be time for me to sell off my 60gb and get one of these, mine is starting to get noisy

04-24-2010, 03:51 PM	#6
kjacobs03 Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Location:Columbus, OH Blu-ray collection:64	So is this why there has been a shortage? I would also like to know the HD size as I am on the verge of picking up a 2nd PS3.

04-24-2010, 04:00 PM	#7
fltruther Member Member since:Apr 2008	I wonder if it will have the 3D update already installed?

04-24-2010, 04:11 PM	#10
doctorD Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Redmond, WA Home Theater Gallery:47 4K collection:397 Blu-ray collection:1723 Blu-ray reviews: 12 Trading Score:1	Will these new SKU's have the new HDMI v1.4?

04-24-2010, 05:29 PM	#15
BluRay2344 Expert Member Member since:Jul 2006 Location:West Hartford, CT 4K collection:80 Blu-ray collection:396 DVD collection:33 Blu-ray reviews:9	sounds good for anyone buying a PS3 soon!

04-24-2010, 06:11 PM	#16
Sponge-worthy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Southwest, USA PSN: Sponge-worthy Blu-ray collection:43	Thanks for the info Max

04-24-2010, 07:37 PM	#17
Maximus Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2006	OP edited, questions added.

04-24-2010, 07:51 PM	#18
JonD7 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Cali 4K collection:86 Blu-ray collection:251	Sweet!

04-24-2010, 07:58 PM	#20
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	Thanks Max for the information. I might pick up a slim model soon because of the revision.

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