Can I say...Yeh Blu-ray!!! - Blu-ray Forum

TechFrenzy · 11-22-2008, 03:06 AM

Wow! Just bought and hooked up the Sony BDP-S350 Blu-ray player to my Sony Bravia XBR2 Hdtv, and Bose 5.1 speaker setup. My wife and I just watched The Incredible Hulk on Blu-ray disc and....all I can say is, it's Christmas in November!!! What incredible picture and sound. The best! Salute Sony!

Driver_King · 11-22-2008, 03:21 AM

Wait till you upgrade to HD sound!

TechFrenzy · 11-22-2008, 11:11 AM

And HD sound would be ...7.1? My sound is fully digital through an optical cable with 5.1 Bose. I can't believe it would be dramatically different. Unless I'm missing something please explain

quexos · 11-22-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TechFrenzy

And HD sound would be ...7.1? My sound is fully digital through an optical cable with 5.1 Bose. I can't believe it would be dramatically different. Unless I'm missing something please explain

Congratulations for your jump in the world of HD.
If you already have experienced lossless sound then you have the best sound out there. The differene from 5.1 to 7.1 is just a couple of extra channels to give more depth to the surround sound. It's a nice extra but by no means vital if you have 5.1

Hammie · 11-22-2008, 12:02 PM

HD sound does not mean 7.1.

HD sound is the uncompressed audio codec -- Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. Standard DVD and Blu-ray core codecs are the standard Dolby and DTS codecs.

You can get HD audio 2 ways with your player. You can have it decode the HD audio inside the player and send the HD audio via LPCM, or, if you had a receiver that decoded HD audio codecs, you could bitstream the HD audio to the receiver.

Once you have things set up like that, then you can enjoy HD audio.

BTW, I only have a 5.1 setup but still enjoy HD audio.

Driver_King · 11-22-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TechFrenzy

And HD sound would be ...7.1? My sound is fully digital through an optical cable with 5.1 Bose. I can't believe it would be dramatically different. Unless I'm missing something please explain

Yes, it is digital. However, it is lossy. Your Bose system is a bit behind technologically. You are missing something to be technical.

And yes, it is a big difference. When did you buy your Bose system? If you can still return it, I can absolutely help you out and get a proper surround sound system. You can learn more about HD sound here. Have fun.

GunZenBomZ · 11-22-2008, 06:21 PM

7.2 is were its at!

bageleaterkkjji · 11-22-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GunZenBomZ

7.2 is were its at!

no 3.14 is where its at

quexos · 11-22-2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GunZenBomZ

7.2 is were its at!

What do you mean 7.2 ???
There are no systems that I know of that use two speakers for the bass.
Or you are just not being serious my freemason friend.

TechFrenzy · 11-22-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Driver_King

Yes, it is digital. However, it is lossy. Your Bose system is a bit behind technologically. You are missing something to be technical.

And yes, it is a big difference. When did you buy your Bose system? If you can still return it, I can absolutely help you out and get a proper surround sound system. You can learn more about HD sound here. Have fun.

Thanks. Yes my bose system is a bit behind the times. It is around 9 years old. When I got it back then it was the latest and greatest. And to be honest with you, it still blows me away. I have been learning and reading about the differences though. I get Dolby Digital and DTS, but not the True master HD DTS. For now, it will be fine but I will be looking for a new receiver in the future.

dukenukem · 11-22-2008, 10:36 PM

7.2 is with two subwoofers instead of one which some recievers support.

My_Two_Cents · 11-22-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by quexos

What do you mean 7.2 ???
There are no systems that I know of that use two speakers for the bass.
Or you are just not being serious my freemason friend.

MANY folks run 2 or more subs. On my list of upgrades after 7.1.

quexos · 11-22-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricshoe

MANY folks run 2 or more subs. On my list of upgrades after 7.1.

And how do they connect 2 sub-woofers successfully ? I mean the system outputs 7.1 meaning there is only one channel for the sub-woofer or are we talking about some real 7.2 system ? cause I've never heard about that.

My_Two_Cents · 11-22-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by quexos

And how do they connect 2 sub-woofers successfully ? I mean the system outputs 7.1 meaning there is only one channel for the sub-woofer or are we talking about some real 7.2 system ? cause I've never heard about that.

You can either use a Y-splitter from a one-sub-out receiver, or get a receiver that has two sub-out connections. Good read here:

http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/ge...nnection-guide

JJ · 11-23-2008, 12:11 AM

Quexos, it's either a Y-splitter to convert the signal into two, or your receiver has more than 1 sub-out (i.e., Yamaha 663 has a pair) or your subwoofer has an additional sub-out (i.e., my Martin Logan Dynamo) to add another subwoofer. All very simple, actually.

Driver_King · 11-23-2008, 06:10 PM

I'm running a 7.2 system, again.

Beta Man · 11-23-2008, 06:24 PM

You can run 7.1 audio, and DIVIDE the .1 part (Subwoofer) into two subwoofers, but it IS NOT 7.2, since the information can only be sent as 8 discrete channels, or "7.1" as we know it......

It's like connecting two additional speakers to the "B" speakers on an older 5.1 capable AVR, and calling it 7.1

Driver_King · 11-23-2008, 08:40 PM

No, it's more like matrixing the signal. It's just not discrete.

Anthony P · 11-23-2008, 09:23 PM

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And how do they connect 2 sub-woofers successfully ? I mean the system outputs 7.1 meaning there is only one channel for the sub-woofer or are we talking about some real 7.2 system ? cause I've never heard about that.

low frequencies unlike high frequencies is not (as) directional. So it does not matter if it is .1 or .2 on the disk, in a .2 system the two subs output the same thing, the benefits are in it being distributed (two lower ones instead of one higher one) and driving each sub less. An other good thing with a .2 system is that the second channel can be used for transducers (so not really audio)

JimShaw · 11-23-2008, 09:39 PM

I guess my system would be considered a 6.3

11-22-2008, 03:06 AM	#1
TechFrenzy Member Member since:Nov 2008	Can I say...Yeh Blu-ray!!! Wow! Just bought and hooked up the Sony BDP-S350 Blu-ray player to my Sony Bravia XBR2 Hdtv, and Bose 5.1 speaker setup. My wife and I just watched The Incredible Hulk on Blu-ray disc and....all I can say is, it's Christmas in November!!! What incredible picture and sound. The best! Salute Sony!

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11-22-2008, 03:21 AM	#2
Driver_King Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Tampa Bay, Florida Home Theater Gallery:96 Blu-ray collection:28 Trading Score:10	Wait till you upgrade to HD sound!

11-22-2008, 11:11 AM	#3
TechFrenzy Member Member since:Nov 2008	And HD sound would be ...7.1? My sound is fully digital through an optical cable with 5.1 Bose. I can't believe it would be dramatically different. Unless I'm missing something please explain

11-22-2008, 12:02 PM	#5
Hammie Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Washington, DC Metro Home Theater Gallery:53 Blu-ray collection:545 DVD collection:12 Trading Score:12	HD sound does not mean 7.1. HD sound is the uncompressed audio codec -- Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. Standard DVD and Blu-ray core codecs are the standard Dolby and DTS codecs. You can get HD audio 2 ways with your player. You can have it decode the HD audio inside the player and send the HD audio via LPCM, or, if you had a receiver that decoded HD audio codecs, you could bitstream the HD audio to the receiver. Once you have things set up like that, then you can enjoy HD audio. BTW, I only have a 5.1 setup but still enjoy HD audio.

11-22-2008, 06:21 PM	#7
GunZenBomZ Senior Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Warwickshire, UK Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:156	7.2 is were its at!

11-22-2008, 10:36 PM	#11
dukenukem Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:31	7.2 is with two subwoofers instead of one which some recievers support.

11-23-2008, 12:11 AM	#15
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	Quexos, it's either a Y-splitter to convert the signal into two, or your receiver has more than 1 sub-out (i.e., Yamaha 663 has a pair) or your subwoofer has an additional sub-out (i.e., my Martin Logan Dynamo) to add another subwoofer. All very simple, actually.

11-23-2008, 06:10 PM	#16
Driver_King Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Tampa Bay, Florida Home Theater Gallery:96 Blu-ray collection:28 Trading Score:10	I'm running a 7.2 system, again.

11-23-2008, 06:24 PM	#17
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	You can run 7.1 audio, and DIVIDE the .1 part (Subwoofer) into two subwoofers, but it IS NOT 7.2, since the information can only be sent as 8 discrete channels, or "7.1" as we know it...... It's like connecting two additional speakers to the "B" speakers on an older 5.1 capable AVR, and calling it 7.1

11-23-2008, 08:40 PM	#18
Driver_King Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Tampa Bay, Florida Home Theater Gallery:96 Blu-ray collection:28 Trading Score:10	No, it's more like matrixing the signal. It's just not discrete.

11-23-2008, 09:39 PM	#20
JimShaw Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Menifee, CA 4K collection:49 Blu-ray collection:1069 Trading Score:141	I guess my system would be considered a 6.3

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