help me pick ethernet cable

[ay221]

I need a 25 foot ethernet cable to hook from my router to the PS3. I see different types of cables. some called patch cable, and some called cross-over patch cable. Will any of these work?

Edit, maybe this one:

http://www.amazon.com/25FT-Snagless-...369646&sr=1-24

[KamiAmaya]

Yep that cable will work fine.

The other 2 you had listed before your edit would have worked as well

[coolmilo]

Originally Posted by ay221

I need a 25 foot ethernet cable to hook from my router to the PS3. I see different types of cables. some called patch cable, and some called cross-over patch cable. Will any of these work?

Edit, maybe this one:

http://www.amazon.com/25FT-Snagless-...369646&sr=1-24


http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Patch-C...369494&sr=1-58

http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-A3L791-...8369646&sr=1-3

Make sure that you purchase Cat 5E cables at a minimum, Cat 6 if possible.

A crossover cable is used to connect two devices without a hub. For example, if you have two computers and one cable, you would use a crossover cable to make connectivity.

The most common cables are the standard patch cables. You will most likely use this type of cable to connect your PS3 to your home network.

On a more technical note, all the wires in a patch cable are the same at both ends of the connector. With a crossover cable, two pairs of the wires are swapped (I think receive and transmit).

[Icemage]

The wiring on a crossover cable is different than a normal cable. Do NOT use a crossover cable to connect your PS3 to a router, gateway, hub, or direct internet connection. It will not work, and you will be very unhappy.

[reiella]

Cat5e should be fine for the near future. Unless you're looking at actually utilizing gigabit ethernet, you really don't need Cat6, that said, the price difference isn't alot either so 'might as well' upgrade too.

There is a difference to note if you're looking at routing the cable through a house [with 25 ft, I doubt that, but I feel I might as point it out for others who may use this thread :P], Cat6 is thicker cabling. If you have your routing sized and pathed for Cat5, you may have problems routing the Cat6.

[mikejet]

Originally Posted by ay221

I need a 25 foot ethernet cable to hook from my router to the PS3. I see different types of cables. some called patch cable, and some called cross-over patch cable. Will any of these work?

Edit, maybe this one:

http://www.amazon.com/25FT-Snagless-...369646&sr=1-24

The cheapest one you can find. They all work the same. Just don't accidentally get a crossover cable.

[phlydude]

don't most of today's routers / switches / hubs auto-detect the cabling and make the necessary adjustments to what is being done, regardless of it being patch or crossover?


Btw, monoprice blows that price away:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

plus, they have enought colors to match anything you want!

Cat 6 is a little more but still under half of the Amazon link
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

[reiella]

Originally Posted by phlydude

don't most of today's routers / switches / hubs auto-detect the cabling and make the necessary adjustments to what is being done, regardless of it being patch or crossover?


Btw, monoprice blows that price away:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

plus, they have enought colors to match anything you want!

Cat 6 is a little more but still under half of the Amazon link
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

No UV reactive . I r teh Sad Nerd.

[slaizer2000]

Originally Posted by coolmilo

Make sure that you purchase Cat 5E cables at a minimum, Cat 6 if possible.

A crossover cable is used to connect two devices without a hub. For example, if you have two computers and one cable, you would use a crossover cable to make connectivity.

The most common cables are the standard patch cables. You will most likely use this type of cable to connect your PS3 to your home network.

On a more technical note, all the wires in a patch cable are the same at both ends of the connector. With a crossover cable, two pairs of the wires are swapped (I think receive and transmit).

pins 1&3 as well as pins 2&6 are crossed on one end with a crossover cable.
You should stick with a regular network cable.

Older hubs/router were prewired to do the crossover for you which is why you use the straight cable as the hub swaps the receive/send wires. The exception to this being the "uplink" port which is a straight passthrough so you can connect 1 port of a hub (crossover) with a regular network cable (straight) to the uplink of another port (straight). So crossover (negative) + straight (postive) + straight (postive) gives you 1 instance of a crossover.

Another way to look at it is is crossovers are negatives and straights are positive. You can combine cables, hubs, computers in any combintion as long as you end up with a negative. Basically even #'s (2,4,6,8..etc) of negatives equal a positive (straight, no communication) where as odd #'s (1,3,5,7..etc) equal a negative (crossover, communication works). So if you have 2 crossovers in the connection you end up with a straight passthrough which won't work. If you throw in 3 crossovers, then you end up with 1 negative (crossover) and the connection works.

I do believe newer hubs/router will auto sense and do the crossover or straight connection for you based on what combination of cables you use. I also think i have read some info that some network cards will do that as well although i haven't ever seen or played with one of those. there are also network cable adapters (reverse adapters) that when added to a straight cable makes it a crossover cable and when added to a crossover cable negates it and makes it a straight pass through cable.

[Magic]

Originally Posted by phlydude

don't most of today's routers / switches / hubs auto-detect the cabling and make the necessary adjustments to what is being done, regardless of it being patch or crossover?


Btw, monoprice blows that price away:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

plus, they have enought colors to match anything you want!

Cat 6 is a little more but still under half of the Amazon link
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I totally back this! I just hooked up new network cables myself this afternoon that I got from monoprice.com. They are far the best on price, speed of delivery, and quality. Highly recommended!!

[ay221]

Thanks for the replies. Looking at mono price, if I am only buying the one cable, it's too expensive when you add in shipping, which costs more that the cable. I added the cable in my edited post along with Dark Knight pre-order to get the amazon free shipping.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by ay221

Thanks for the replies. Looking at mono price, if I am only buying the one cable, it's too expensive when you add in shipping, which costs more that the cable. I added the cable in my edited post along with Dark Knight pre-order to get the amazon free shipping.

Heh ya, shipping tends to be what gets ya on cables. Good deal though .

[phlydude]

Yeah, you have to buy a couple cables to make it shipping price effective. But if you were buying something from Amazon and bundled this in for free shipping, it is all good.

[dk3dknight]

Yeah standard yellow Ethernet cable.

If you plan to run a really long run, them home improvement, in which you can buy a reel of it in a large box, you would have to set the connectors up yourself, useful for when you need multiple runs...

If that is not your intent is a smaller run remeber to buy a size slightly larger then what you think you need, you will find that something will happen and you will wish you had a longer cable.

[bilbravo]

This one is only 5 ft long, but you should get it. Just move your stuff closer together.

http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3429.asp#

[hellmonkey]

Am I the only one that made my own cable to run through my house? Im suc a nerd.

[bilbravo]

Originally Posted by hellmonkey

Am I the only one that made my own cable to run through my house? Im suc a nerd.

No, I make my own too. It's very inexpensive once you have the tools, but for most people that isn't a necessity. Cheap cables can be had online.

[DrasticPlastic]

I make my own cables too... just get a bunch of bulk cable for www.firefold.com as well as the inexpensive orange handled cripmper they sell, and get a bag of end connectors from ebay for dirt cheap and you will be good to go... I think I got like 100 connectors for $6 shipped on ebay.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by DrasticPlastic

I make my own cables too... just get a bunch of bulk cable for www.firefold.com as well as the inexpensive orange handled cripmper they sell, and get a bag of end connectors from ebay for dirt cheap and you will be good to go... I think I got like 100 connectors for $6 shipped on ebay.

Yep, if ya willing to crimp, it's easy. Me, not so much, although I still do some of my own sleeving on some in my case.

You can also buy 'Bulks' from Monoprice too if you want un-terminated cable.