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Psychonaut · 12-08-2008, 09:36 PM

I have a 2803. In the setup you can choose to increase or decrease the volume of your speakers to balance out everything. Is there anything wrong with increasing them all to get more volume? It seems like I used to be able to watch stuff with the volume at -15 or less but it seems lately that I'm at -10 or -11.

No, I'm not losing my hearing. If I turn it up too loud the wife is all over me to chill out.

Just wondering is this is bad for the receiver or the speakers?

Thanks in advance!

clyon · 12-08-2008, 10:04 PM

the reciever is fine, for the speakers it depends on the speakers... but it sounds like you need a Sound-Level Meter..

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2103667

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=38765

Psychonaut · 12-08-2008, 10:55 PM

No I have the balance fine. My question was confusing. I'm wondering if it's bad to bring them all up evenly to add volume or should I even care that I have to turn it up that loud.

b15nut · 12-09-2008, 04:22 AM

Shouldn't hurt anything. Just set it at what you think sounds good and adjust the volume. For me I have my fronts at -3 (out of -6 to +6) and the center at +3 so I can hear the dialog more than the surrounding noise.

kingofgrills · 12-09-2008, 06:57 PM

I would really recommend that you calibrate your receiver to your speakers. The difference in sound quality can be amazing, depending on your starting point. I can't recommend that anyone rely on their own hearing in order to calibrate a system.

Did your Denon receiver come with an auto calibration function that includes a microphone? If so, I'd read your manual and use that as your starting point. If you really want to calibrate your receiver well, you should read the stickied thread on calibrating your receiver with an SPL meter. It's located on the receiver main page, and here's a link to it:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=38765

Good luck.

DJ Matt · 12-09-2008, 07:34 PM

I think the question is not about calibration.

It's about boosting all spaker level to get more sound.

And I think you should not boost all of them. Just pump ip main volume for more sound.

If not enough, change receiver for more power. But quality sound is more important than power for home theater, my opinion.

DJ Matt

kingofgrills · 12-09-2008, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Matt

I think the question is not about calibration.

It's about boosting all spaker level to get more sound.

And I think you should not boost all of them. Just pump ip main volume for more sound.

If not enough, change receiver for more power. But quality sound is more important than power for home theater, my opinion.

DJ Matt

That is exactly about calibration. Calibration on a receiver is adjusting speaker levels independently, so they can produce equal sound relative to the listening spot. Just jacking up the speaker levels isn't going to cut it.

Psychonaut · 12-09-2008, 10:06 PM

The balance seems fine. I don't have a pair that is too low that I need to bring up. DJ Matt is correct. Although I have them all set, I'm wondering if bringing them all up the same amount to boost volume is a bad thing. The balanced levels stay, I just throw more to them.

kingofgrills · 12-09-2008, 10:35 PM

Not...talking...about...balance!

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=38765

HAMP · 12-09-2008, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psychonaut

The balance seems fine. I don't have a pair that is too low that I need to bring up. DJ Matt is correct. Although I have them all set, I'm wondering if bringing them all up the same amount to boost volume is a bad thing. The balanced levels stay, I just throw more to them.

Are you saying if the current db volume for each speaker is -5, can you bring them all up to -2?

or if they have different settings can you bring them all up, but keep the db at the the same ratio?

Current
------------
RF -12.5
C -10
LF -11.5
RS -5
LS -4

making new
------------
RF -7.5
C -5
LF -6.5
RS 0
LS +1

By doing this you just turned up each speaker 5db

Big Daddy · 12-09-2008, 11:05 PM

Instead up increasing the db levels, you can simply turn the master volume up. Increasing all the speakers' individual volume at the same time may not do any damage to your speakers. However, it may throw your calibration out of whack. If it is something you really want to do, then do it with the help of an SPL meter so that your speaker levels are still the same.

Psychonaut · 12-09-2008, 11:43 PM

Okay I see everyone's point. I don't see a master volume on this receiver but I see how just cranking everything up can possible distort the rears or sides or center or whatever. I'll get a meter to make sure they all come up nice and even.

Sorry for the brain hemmorhage, Grills

12-08-2008, 09:36 PM	#1
Psychonaut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Second left after Wal-Mart Blu-ray collection:111	Denon question I have a 2803. In the setup you can choose to increase or decrease the volume of your speakers to balance out everything. Is there anything wrong with increasing them all to get more volume? It seems like I used to be able to watch stuff with the volume at -15 or less but it seems lately that I'm at -10 or -11. No, I'm not losing my hearing. If I turn it up too loud the wife is all over me to chill out. Just wondering is this is bad for the receiver or the speakers? Thanks in advance!

12-08-2008, 10:04 PM	#2
clyon Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Just left of the Alpha Quadrant 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:824 Blu-ray reviews:8	the reciever is fine, for the speakers it depends on the speakers... but it sounds like you need a Sound-Level Meter.. http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2103667 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=38765 Last edited by clyon; 12-08-2008 at 10:06 PM.

12-09-2008, 07:34 PM	#6
DJ Matt Active Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Longueuil, Qc, Canada Blu-ray collection:340 DVD collection:7	... I think the question is not about calibration. It's about boosting all spaker level to get more sound. And I think you should not boost all of them. Just pump ip main volume for more sound. If not enough, change receiver for more power. But quality sound is more important than power for home theater, my opinion. DJ Matt

12-09-2008, 11:05 PM	#11
Big Daddy Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Southern California Home Theater Gallery:79 Blu-ray collection:122 Trading Score:1	Instead up increasing the db levels, you can simply turn the master volume up. Increasing all the speakers' individual volume at the same time may not do any damage to your speakers. However, it may throw your calibration out of whack. If it is something you really want to do, then do it with the help of an SPL meter so that your speaker levels are still the same. Last edited by Big Daddy; 12-09-2008 at 11:22 PM.

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12-08-2008, 10:55 PM	#3
Psychonaut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Second left after Wal-Mart Blu-ray collection:111	No I have the balance fine. My question was confusing. I'm wondering if it's bad to bring them all up evenly to add volume or should I even care that I have to turn it up that loud.

12-09-2008, 04:22 AM	#4
b15nut Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Queen Creek, AZ Blu-ray collection:9 Trading Score:6	Shouldn't hurt anything. Just set it at what you think sounds good and adjust the volume. For me I have my fronts at -3 (out of -6 to +6) and the center at +3 so I can hear the dialog more than the surrounding noise.

12-09-2008, 06:57 PM	#5
kingofgrills Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:PDX Home Theater Gallery:31 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:81 Trading Score:31	I would really recommend that you calibrate your receiver to your speakers. The difference in sound quality can be amazing, depending on your starting point. I can't recommend that anyone rely on their own hearing in order to calibrate a system. Did your Denon receiver come with an auto calibration function that includes a microphone? If so, I'd read your manual and use that as your starting point. If you really want to calibrate your receiver well, you should read the stickied thread on calibrating your receiver with an SPL meter. It's located on the receiver main page, and here's a link to it: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=38765 Good luck.

12-09-2008, 10:06 PM	#8
Psychonaut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Second left after Wal-Mart Blu-ray collection:111	The balance seems fine. I don't have a pair that is too low that I need to bring up. DJ Matt is correct. Although I have them all set, I'm wondering if bringing them all up the same amount to boost volume is a bad thing. The balanced levels stay, I just throw more to them.

12-09-2008, 10:35 PM	#9
kingofgrills Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:PDX Home Theater Gallery:31 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:81 Trading Score:31	Not...talking...about...balance! https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=38765

12-09-2008, 11:43 PM	#12
Psychonaut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Second left after Wal-Mart Blu-ray collection:111	Okay I see everyone's point. I don't see a master volume on this receiver but I see how just cranking everything up can possible distort the rears or sides or center or whatever. I'll get a meter to make sure they all come up nice and even. Sorry for the brain hemmorhage, Grills

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