New PS3?

[mcy_999]

Sony is considering to launch a new PS3 with larger HD and also possibly some changes outside the core components.

http://news.com.com/Sony+may+boost+P...3-6176693.html

Since X360 Elite will come with a 120GB HD, I would think that the new PS3 will have a HD at least that size or even bigger for the marketing reason. 160GB or 200GB may be possible. Sony would probably sell the new unit at $599 price and lower the 60GB model to $499 before the holiday season. Does this assumption sound too logical?

[Unkn0wn47]

I am not sure about the PS3 going down in price; but it might seem reasonable for Sony to release a new PS3, just not until next year I bet.

[MasterXeus]

Not sure why, Sony would want to release a new PS3 already, it hasn't be out a year yet. Plus you can already change out you're HD. I heard a lot of people trash talking MS for releasing Xbox 360 Elite. Can't we say the same thing about Sony if they release a new PS3? I'm personally no where near filling my PS3 60GB HD.

I guess releasing a new PS3 would be great for people who havn't bought one yet, but I'm not going to buy it.

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

Not sure why, Sony would want to release a new PS3 already, it hasn't be out a year yet.

Only reason I can see is updating the HDD to match the elite size.

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

I heard a lot of people trash talking MS for releasing Xbox 360 Elite. Can't we say the same thing about Sony if they release a new PS3?

No It don't think so. Existing users bought the 360 after listening to MS trash talk Sony about how HDMI was unnecessary, unproven technology etc. In effect telling their customers it was something that shouldn't influence their purchase decision in deciding NOW or for the future. And now those users are missing out on it's benefits. Sony didn't mislead anybody in that sense - all units have HDMI - it's one of the reasons they delayed and then ate the cost on the 20GB unit. It was all pretty clear the reference hardware that was put in for future-proofing wasn't changing anytime soon. You knew what you were getting now and that it was to protect your investment for the long term.

Even the most ardent MS consumer can't feel like they were shafted just a little bit or in some case a lot if they were deciding between the 360 or PS3. They used it to trash talk the PS3 for along time and then turn around and include it at the expense of those customers that believed them it didn't matter. Just not good business.

Increasing the HDD in the PS3 doesn't leave any existing users lacking a capability like switching in HDMI does on the 360. And they only went with 1.2a instead of 1.3 which is really just adding "insult to injury" since they had more time to get 1.3 included than Sony did. Again Sony is looking at your long term investment and not being on the continual upgrade wheel. I appreciate that.

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

I'm personally no where near filling my PS3 60GB HD.

I'm now under 12GB and counting..videos, photos, music add up pretty quickly..I've been surprised how fast it's been going. I expected it to last much longer in fact.

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

I guess releasing a new PS3 would be great for people who havn't bought one yet, but I'm not going to buy it.

Neither would I if we hadn't planned to get another one this xmas anyway. For most existing users the nice thing is as you can just upgrade it easily yourself as you said. Goes back to what I was saying about future-proofing your investment - very nice and appreciated. Using standard components gives me the wider choice of sizes, mfgs, speed and lower cost for more GB compared to the 360. Someone posted that 300gb has just been released and I'm sure more will be coming...in 2 years I may be able to upgrade the internal drive to 500GB at the lowest cost...unlikely with the MS business model.

[Gussler]

I don't understand why Sony would do that. Elite may have 120G, but can't you stuff a larger 200G HDD in the PS3? PS3 has everything already in my opinion. They shouldn't need to come out with a new version. The new version would be the PS3 Slim.

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

Only reason I can see is updating the HDD to match the elite size.

Even the most ardent MS consumer can't feel like they were shafted just a little bit or in some case a lot if they were deciding between the 360 or PS3. They used it to trash talk the PS3 for along time and then turn around and include it at the expense of those customers that believed them it didn't matter. Just not good business.

Increasing the HDD in the PS3 doesn't leave any existing users lacking a capability like switching in HDMI does on the 360. And they only went with 1.2a instead of 1.3 which is really just adding "insult to injury" since they had more time to get 1.3 included than Sony did. Again Sony is looking at your long term investment and not being on the continual upgrade wheel. I appreciate that.

Well, I can see your points, but I hasn't mislead when I bought the 360, I knew what I was buying, plus I donn't feel like I was shafted by MS I don't care about HDMI right now and I'm not worry about it anytime in the near future.
As far as the new PS3 doesn't leave any existing users lacking capablilities. Well have to wait and see. From the website.

Sony Computer Entertainment is the video game unit of Sony.

Fukuoka said, however, that potential changes to the PS3 are not limited to its hard disk drive capacity.

"We are not likely to change its core components and functions such as the Cell, RSX, Blu-ray drive and network capability. But outside that realm, addition and deletion is quite possible," he said.

I feel adding HDMI to the Xbox 360 is outside the core components. It's a good feature to add, but not really required. So personally I feel Sony is doing the same thing MS is doing.

I'm not talking about how Sony runs their compare MS. Sony wins that by a landside. My point is why are we already talking about releasing a new PS3when the current PS3 hasn't pass it's one year mark?

[deathscripture]

I am one of those people that feels like he got shafted on the 360 deal. I ran out and bought a 360 premium in early December when I couldn't get a hold of a PS3. I never would have bought one if I had an inkling that they were going to release this Elite for 80 bucks more. What a crock of shit.

They need to offer a program where you can trade in your current model and upgrade for that 80 bucks. HDMI is important to me.

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

Well, I can see your points, but I hasn't mislead when I bought the 360, I knew what I was buying, plus I donn't feel like I was shafted by MS I don't care about HDMI right now and I'm not worry about it anytime in the near future.

1. I don't think that's how most people feel. I think your more the exception.
The key point is MS spent the effort to specifically puhpah HDMI because the competition had it. People therefore believed it wasn't of value and now by releasing it they are admitting it has value. If they wouldn't have said *anything* I would agree up to a point for those that were deciding between a PS3 and a 360. 360 purchasers of the last 6 months are probably the most peeved.

2. You won't miss it because you can get the benefits of it on your PS3 and won't have to buy another PS3 to do so. 360 owners aren't so fortunate .

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

So personally I feel Sony is doing the same thing MS is doing.

Upgrading a HDD certainly isn't the same thing. Dropping the price or bundling two controllers or slipstreaming a larger HDD etc is just the economics of any industry. Adding significant new capabilities that I couldn't have access to would be the same thing. That's the boat the original 360 owners are in. Adding and deleting can mean many things without effecting capabilities of the existing console.

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

Sony wins that by a landside.

Agreed. That's why I'd be surprised if they did the "same" thing. People were disappointed about the global remote play not being in 1.6 but as far as I'm concerned they did the right thing by giving the 20GB owners remote play capabilities before getting to global. Leave no customer behind

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

My point is why are we already talking about releasing a new PS3 when the current PS3 hasn't pass it's one year mark?

Slow news day?

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

1. I don't think that's how most people feel. I think your more the exception.
The key point is MS spent the effort to specifically puhpah HDMI because the competition had it. People therefore believed it wasn't of value and now by releasing it they are admitting it has value. If they wouldn't have said *anything* I would agree up to a point for those that were deciding between a PS3 and a 360. 360 purchasers of the last 6 months are probably the most peeved.

2. You won't miss it because you can get the benefits of it on your PS3 and won't have to buy another PS3 to do so. 360 owners aren't so fortunate .

Upgrading a HDD certainly isn't the same thing. Dropping the price or bundling two controllers or slipstreaming a larger HDD etc is just the economics of any industry. Adding significant new capabilities that I couldn't have access to would be the same thing. That's the boat the original 360 owners are in. Adding and deleting can mean many things without effecting capabilities of the existing console.


Agreed. That's why I'd be surprised if they did the "same" thing. People were disappointed about the global remote play not being in 1.6 but as far as I'm concerned they did the right thing by giving the 20GB owners remote play capabilities before getting to global. Leave no customer behind


Slow news day?

1. I agree that most 360 purchasers of the last 6 months are probably the most peeved. 3 of my other friends and myself think the HDMI would be nice to have but we all agree it's not that big of a deal. I agree if you plan to get a 360 should wait for the Elite. I also think they should have made the Elite with a built in Blu-ray drive. Deathscripture I understand how you feel and I would be upset to if I bought my 360 in the last 6 months.

2. I don't use HDMI on my PS3 either so that's not really a good point.

3. When did I say Sony was just upgrading the HDD. Nor did I say anything about bundling, pricedroping. OF course that isn't the same thing MS is doing. When I said I feel Sony is doing the same thing MS is doing, because of the comment that said "addition and deletion is quite possible" If they take something way or add something to the PS3 that isn't currently on it. Then Sony would be doing the same thing. That's my point. My PS3 is going on 4 months and we're already talking about a newer one.

4. I think both MS and Sony should stop thinking about a newer system and start thinking about creating better games. After all a system is only as good as the games that are on it