question about receivers,wattage and subwoofers

[commandercool]

ok so i'm not going to purchase a receiver sometime in the coming months along with new speakers and what not but i've always wondered i know on a lot of receivers otu there they give out about an average of 100watts or so per channel so lets say i pick up an onkyo 606 would i need to match each speakers to the wattage of the receiver or can i just get like any speaker that's like 200-300 watts each? or would i have to go by the ohms? also does the sub need to be a certain type of wattage too or can i throw just any sub in there with the mix? i'm just asking before i prepare to build my ht because i like my movies and mostly music(what i'm going to be using the ht for mostly) really loud which reminds me lol one more question sorry guys

is it bad to play your ht close to full volume for music and can you blow the speakers out if played too loud or hard? thanks

[Opips2]

I don't want mess onkyo 606 is retard many ohm and watts.

I don't trust there the receiver has power high watts. I perfer a separate amplifier is professional sound like cinema theatre.

[Big Daddy]

Do not take the wattage ratings on the speakers too seriously. You can do damage to highly powerful speakers with a low-end receiver or vice versa. Those maximum ratings are more marketing than anything else. If a receiver is rated 100 watts, you can use it on speakers that are rated 500 watts. You can also use that same receiver with speakers that are rated 50 watts. Too many people unnecessarily worry about damaging their speakers. If you play your music extremely loud, I worry more about damaging your hearing than your speakers. Can you damage 500 watt speakers with 100 watt receiver? The answer is a big yes, but you will be arrested before you detect any damage to your speakers.

Most receivers can handle 8 ohm speakers without any problems. Some high-end receivers can handle 6 ohm or 4 ohm. If a receiver is not rated for 4 ohm speakers, it will get too hot and may fail. For 4 ohm speaker, it is best to use separate amplifiers.

Big Daddy's Five Commandments:

1. Always buy products you can afford. Don't put yourself in financial difficulty. It is not worth the trouble.
2. Buy the highest quality and most powerful receiver that can handle the new HD audio codecs and have HDMI 1.3 input/output. Powerful and high quality receivers do not clip or distort as easily as low-end receivers.
3. Buy the highest quality (sound wise) speakers. Do not pay too much attention to wattage ratings.
4. If you are considering low impedance speakers (e.g., 4 ohms), it is best to buy separate amplifiers. Amplifiers have more reserve power and allow speakers to play at their maximum potential. Emotiva offers the best amplifiers for the price.
5. Do not play your movies/music so loud to damage your speakers or your hearing. It is perfectly ok to irritate your neighbors.

[commandercool]

yeah well i do want to buy a receiver that can handle all the new hd audio codecs that's a must but i just needed some reassurance that wattage doesn't mean anything lol and receivers nowadays do go pretty loud right?

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by commandercool

yeah well i do want to buy a receiver that can handle all the new hd audio codecs that's a must but i just needed some reassurance that wattage doesn't mean anything lol and receivers nowadays do go pretty loud right?

YAMAHA 663 & any type of good speaker's you like ! Go listen to many type's of speaker's first to see what you like ! If you want loud the 663 will allow an amp !

[Blu_Ray_Fan]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

YAMAHA 663 & any type of good speaker's you like ! Go listen to many type's of speaker's first to see what you like ! If you want loud the 663 will allow an amp !

You push what you own on allmost every thread I suppose he should get and EMOTIVA amp as well??

To OP-Like allready stated, speaker/receiver watts is not that big of a deal. crazyBLUE is right, the 663 is nice for the money but there are A LOT of good choices out there and the 663 is not the best receiver available. The 606 from Onkyo is very nice, but if you can pick up a 805 still in the $500 range it's much better and the need for external amp goes way down (at least at first ). 140 watts is nothing to shake a fist at, it does all the HD audio, really the only negative is it only has 3 HDMI in's (but you can always add a switch). And correct me if I'm wrong, but the 663 only has 2 HDMI in's?? Thats poor by todays standards. I have 4 devices so far that use HDMI. My Sony HDTV has 3 even...

As far as speakers go, I would get a receiver first. A good receiver will be the heart of your system that everything routes through. Once you have that you can build around it.

EDIT WOW..the 805 is over $1000 now new???? that is crazy!!!!

[primaz]

Originally Posted by commandercool

ok so i'm not going to purchase a receiver sometime in the coming months along with new speakers and what not but i've always wondered i know on a lot of receivers otu there they give out about an average of 100watts or so per channel so lets say i pick up an onkyo 606 would i need to match each speakers to the wattage of the receiver or can i just get like any speaker that's like 200-300 watts each? or would i have to go by the ohms? also does the sub need to be a certain type of wattage too or can i throw just any sub in there with the mix? i'm just asking before i prepare to build my ht because i like my movies and mostly music(what i'm going to be using the ht for mostly) really loud which reminds me lol one more question sorry guys

is it bad to play your ht close to full volume for music and can you blow the speakers out if played too loud or hard? thanks

To me the speakers should be 50% of your budget or so then that will dictate how much and what to spend on electronics. To me the next most important thing is the quality of the surround processor. Spend a lot of time and listen to the same music cd and try out every brand you can and then decide which speakers you want. To me the main and center should be the same and if you can match the rest as well but you can go with other brands on the other effects and subs. It also depends if you can afford to do the entire system all at once or are you ok with just some of the speakers and add others later.

Depending on your budget you might be surprised that higher end separates can be within reach by brands like Outlaw Audio; they have separate non powered surround pre amps and separate 7 channels amps that can be had for around $1000 to $5K depending on your budget bucks for both.

I used to do custom car stereos long ago and even had systems with cheap Sanyo amps but due to good speakers the systems sounded better than some with better electronics. The same goes for home audio.

[aramis109]

Some really good advice in here. Good thread.

I'll just chime in with what people haven't touched on yet- the sub. As long as you get a powered subwoofer, any will do. They have their own power supply and amplification, and as such don't need anything from the receiver but the signal. Pick one you like, plug it in and be happy.

[commandercool]

ooh ok i see what you're saying about the sub so i can get any powered sub no matter of its wattage rating or ohms rating and plug it into basically any receiver

[gearyt]

Originally Posted by commandercool

ooh ok i see what you're saying about the sub so i can get any powered sub no matter of its wattage rating or ohms rating and plug it into basically any receiver

yeppers...

any receiver that supports a sub or LFE

I support speakers first... they last almost forever

[primaz]

Originally Posted by commandercool

ooh ok i see what you're saying about the sub so i can get any powered sub no matter of its wattage rating or ohms rating and plug it into basically any receiver

recommend the Outlaw Audio subwoofers. They make their own and sell direct; they have great high end audio at great prices. I have their 350 watt powered 12" sub and love it! Also for subs you can start with one and later add more as the quanity will enable the sound to be even everwhere; I have two subs and want to go to 3-4 eventually.