dual hsu uls15's or one klipsch rt12d - Blu-ray Forum

cembros · 02-09-2009, 06:10 AM

ok so im looking to upgrade my sub from a polk psw1000 which im very disapointed with to either dual hsu uls 15's or a klipsch rt12d. The guy at my local ht store highly recomended the klipsch, i mentoned the hsu and said to him that i wanted a dual sub setup but he said for the money the klipsch was the best choice. I suspect that he did not recomend hsu because they do not sell the subs, so i pose the question to the form. What is the better choice

Big Daddy · 02-09-2009, 07:38 AM

The salesman wants you to buy Klipsch because there is more commision for him. The decision is an easy one:

Hsu is a specialty subwoofer compnay. Their subwoofers are highly rated and reasonably priced because they are a factory-direct company.
Two subwoofers (even two smaller ones) are always preferred to one super large one. Two subwoofers will give you more flexibilty to place them in the room and defeat the problems associated with standing waves.

Please read A Guide to Subwoofers (Part II): Standing Waves & Room Modes. It helps you understand the benefits of two subwoofers over one and how to optimally place them in your room.

Buy the two Hsu subs without hesitation.

tegal3 · 02-09-2009, 09:39 AM

No brainer for me....dual Hsu ULS15

prerich · 02-09-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy

The salesman wants you to buy Klipsch because there is more commision for him. The decision is an easy one:

Hsu is a specialty subwoofer compnay. Their subwoofers are highly rated and reasonably priced because they are a factory-direct company.
Two subwoofers (even two smaller ones) are always preferred to one super large one. Two subwoofers will give you more flexibilty to place them in the room and defeat the problems associated with standing waves.

Please read A Guide to Subwoofers (Part II): Standing Waves & Room Modes. It helps you understand the benefits of two subwoofers over one and how to optimally place them in your room.

Buy the two Hsu subs without hesitation.

+1 ditto!

E55 KEV · 02-09-2009, 01:24 PM

Reality Check! How big is your room/home theater? Dual 15" 93 pound subs sounds like complete overkill for a system centered around a 40" LCD. I was expecting a huge room with a projector, 120" screen and 3/4 rows of seats.

cembros · 02-09-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by E55 KEV

Reality Check! How big is your room/home theater? Dual 15" 93 pound subs sounds like complete overkill for a system centered around a 40" LCD. I was expecting a huge room with a projector, 120" screen and 3/4 rows of seats.

yes well the 40 in sony wont be there forever. Im putting every peice together and the final chapter will be a large screen and my projector.

E55 KEV · 02-09-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cembros

yes well the 40 in sony wont be there forever. Im putting every peice together and the final chapter will be a large screen and my projector.

If you just got to have 2 subs - buy another Polk PSW1000.

cembros · 02-09-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by E55 KEV

If you just got to have 2 subs - buy another Polk PSW1000.

well i really am not satisified with the psw, it doesnt go very low so thats why im switiching the sub in the first place, trying to sell it actually

E55 KEV · 02-09-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cembros

well i really am not satisified with the psw, it doesnt go very low so thats why im switiching the sub in the first place, trying to sell it actually

I think you are just shopping specs. The Polk goes down to 20hz but you want a sub that goes down only another 5hz (15hz). Get a test disc and see if your sub and your ears can produce or hear a 15 or 20hz cycle. You may find that you can not even hear those frequencies anyway.

cembros · 02-09-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by E55 KEV

I think you are just shopping specs. The Polk goes down to 20hz but you want a sub that goes down only another 5hz (15hz). Get a test disc and see if your sub and your ears can produce or hear a 15 or 20hz cycle. You may find that you can not even hear those frequencies anyway.

the polk actually drops out at about 30hz, there are many instances in movies where i notice this, the end scene in kung fu panda for example where jack black says skadoosh, there practicall no bass. the scene in transformers where the transformer flys over the womans head, there is also a bass dropout there

MacDaddyOJack · 02-09-2009, 02:03 PM

Not even close, HSU (especially duals) will likely beat anything Klipsch has to offer. My guess is that the person you spoke to either:

a) Couldn't make comission off of HSU since they are factory direct -or-
b) had never even heard of HSU so they didn't recommend them.

cembros · 02-09-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MacDaddyOJack

Not even close, HSU (especially duals) will likely beat anything Klipsch has to offer. My guess is that the person you spoke to either:

a) Couldn't make comission off of HSU since they are factory direct -or-
b) had never even heard of HSU so they didn't recommend them.

no he had heard of them, he didnt say that they were not good subs infact he was the most knowledgable sales person iv ever encountered, and ofcourse he was pussing the klipsch because he was going to make commission, gotta earn a living. But thats why i come here for some helpful insight

DerrellB · 02-09-2009, 02:20 PM

Get the dual subs. I like having 2. It gives me more room coverage. Just a better overall sound. Everyone knows polk subs are not the best and I think the other guy is going by specs lol. How does your bass drop sound know in that transformers scene with ironhide. My house shakes on that scene. I love it.

Beta Man · 02-09-2009, 03:39 PM

NEITHER

What is your budget?

For the price of two, you could get a Def Tech Trinity, a Focal Electra, or a meadowlark Blackbird......

There are so many capable subwoofers in that price range, not sure why you'd get 2 of the HSUs and have to deal with proper placement/issues etc.

Beta Man · 02-09-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DerrellB

My house shakes on that scene. I love it.

Sounds like you need some room treatments and better dampening/isolation

Sir Terrence · 02-09-2009, 03:50 PM

All of the three subs you mention are very good, but a single one of them is not going to outperform two HSU subs in a real rooms. Two subs are always better than one, especially if they are two competent subs as the HSU's are.

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

NEITHER

What is your budget?

For the price of two, you could get a Def Tech Trinity, a Focal Electra, or a meadowlark Blackbird......

There are so many capable subwoofers in that price range, not sure why you'd get 2 of the HSUs and have to deal with proper placement/issues etc.

cembros · 02-09-2009, 04:30 PM

the dual hsu uls15's in piano black are 2500 and the klipsch is about 2200

arrt vandelay · 02-09-2009, 04:50 PM

i'd vote for the dual hsu's, but if you want to save some coin and still have bass in all four corners, what about 4!?! outlaw lfm-1 pluses! they're on sale for $519 a piece w/ free shipping until midnight tonight...

cembros · 02-09-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by arrt vandelay

i'd vote for the dual hsu's, but if you want to save some coin and still have bass in all four corners, what about 4!?! outlaw lfm-1 pluses! they're on sale for $519 a piece w/ free shipping until midnight tonight...

haha arrt vandelay either you are a big seinfeild fan or you work at moes, good one

Driver_King · 02-09-2009, 07:25 PM

Hell, at that much money, you'd be better off getting a pair of these or this.

They both would be more output than those subs. The first pair I linked you to are based on the 13 Av.2 subwoofer, eD's best 12" driver. The A7-900 has probably the loudest and deepest output of any other HT sub out there.

You could also ask eD about their custom Av.2 based 18" drivers and a modified A7-900 to go along with it.

Don't flame me for recommending eD here by the way!

02-09-2009, 06:10 AM	#1
cembros Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:456 Trading Score:4	dual hsu uls15's or one klipsch rt12d ok so im looking to upgrade my sub from a polk psw1000 which im very disapointed with to either dual hsu uls 15's or a klipsch rt12d. The guy at my local ht store highly recomended the klipsch, i mentoned the hsu and said to him that i wanted a dual sub setup but he said for the money the klipsch was the best choice. I suspect that he did not recomend hsu because they do not sell the subs, so i pose the question to the form. What is the better choice

02-09-2009, 07:38 AM	#2
Big Daddy Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Southern California Home Theater Gallery:79 Blu-ray collection:122 Trading Score:1	The salesman wants you to buy Klipsch because there is more commision for him. The decision is an easy one: Hsu is a specialty subwoofer compnay. Their subwoofers are highly rated and reasonably priced because they are a factory-direct company. Two subwoofers (even two smaller ones) are always preferred to one super large one. Two subwoofers will give you more flexibilty to place them in the room and defeat the problems associated with standing waves. Please read A Guide to Subwoofers (Part II): Standing Waves & Room Modes. It helps you understand the benefits of two subwoofers over one and how to optimally place them in your room. Buy the two Hsu subs without hesitation.

02-09-2009, 01:24 PM	#5
E55 KEV Power Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Washington D.C. 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:546 DVD collection:15 Trading Score:28	Reality Check! How big is your room/home theater? Dual 15" 93 pound subs sounds like complete overkill for a system centered around a 40" LCD. I was expecting a huge room with a projector, 120" screen and 3/4 rows of seats. Last edited by E55 KEV; 02-09-2009 at 01:32 PM.

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02-09-2009, 09:39 AM	#3
tegal3 Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:9	No brainer for me....dual Hsu ULS15

02-09-2009, 02:03 PM	#11
MacDaddyOJack Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Richmond, VA PSNetwork: MacDaddyOJack Trophy Level: 12(4%) Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:71 Blu-ray reviews:23 Trading Score:4	Not even close, HSU (especially duals) will likely beat anything Klipsch has to offer. My guess is that the person you spoke to either: a) Couldn't make comission off of HSU since they are factory direct -or- b) had never even heard of HSU so they didn't recommend them.

02-09-2009, 02:20 PM	#13
DerrellB Power Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2009 Home Theater Gallery:59 Trading Score:3	Get the dual subs. I like having 2. It gives me more room coverage. Just a better overall sound. Everyone knows polk subs are not the best and I think the other guy is going by specs lol. How does your bass drop sound know in that transformers scene with ironhide. My house shakes on that scene. I love it.

02-09-2009, 03:39 PM	#14
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	NEITHER What is your budget? For the price of two, you could get a Def Tech Trinity, a Focal Electra, or a meadowlark Blackbird...... There are so many capable subwoofers in that price range, not sure why you'd get 2 of the HSUs and have to deal with proper placement/issues etc.

02-09-2009, 04:30 PM	#17
cembros Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:456 Trading Score:4	the dual hsu uls15's in piano black are 2500 and the klipsch is about 2200

02-09-2009, 04:50 PM	#18
arrt vandelay Senior Member Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray collection:26 Trading Score:6	i'd vote for the dual hsu's, but if you want to save some coin and still have bass in all four corners, what about 4!?! outlaw lfm-1 pluses! they're on sale for $519 a piece w/ free shipping until midnight tonight...

02-09-2009, 07:25 PM	#20
Driver_King Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Tampa Bay, Florida Home Theater Gallery:96 Blu-ray collection:28 Trading Score:10	Hell, at that much money, you'd be better off getting a pair of these or this. They both would be more output than those subs. The first pair I linked you to are based on the 13 Av.2 subwoofer, eD's best 12" driver. The A7-900 has probably the loudest and deepest output of any other HT sub out there. You could also ask eD about their custom Av.2 based 18" drivers and a modified A7-900 to go along with it. Don't flame me for recommending eD here by the way!

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