Can I trust this buyer? - Blu-ray Forum

RealSkyDiver · 01-03-2009, 12:08 AM

A buyer responded to my Craigslist ad and wants to send me money over paypal so I can ship my product to a certain place. Usually people come over to see it first but this buyer didn't even come over. I assume he lives overseas.
Got an email by PayPal that the money has been send but will only be added to my account once I give them the tracking number. At least it seems legit up to this point but I'm still not sure.
btw what does he mean buy "my account has been deducted"??

Here is the email I just received:

Hi Seller,
I just sent your payment successfully using paypal and i send
$360 to your account with the shipping cost via USPS Express Mail and
i'll want you to get the item for shipped immediately you received my
payment notification from paypal.and i'll want you to shipped the item
out today,Cos My account has been deducted...

Here Is The Shipping Address :

XXX

I want the package to be sent by USPS Express Mail Service only
because its very cheap,secure and reliable,I will be waiting for the
tracking number.I will like to do more business with you after you
have completed this transaction by Shipping out the item.Thank you

Please Note : Thet shipment tracking info will start with EB,EH,EQ,EE and EA.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Here are the fake PayPal emails I received:
FIRST
SECOND
THIRD
FOURTH (with FBI LMAO)

badboi · 01-03-2009, 12:10 AM

No. Sounds like a scam to me. Where is the shipping address he wants you to ship it to?

JJ · 01-03-2009, 12:10 AM

Nope. NO. Not at all. Ignore that fella and move on.

RealSkyDiver · 01-03-2009, 12:13 AM

Got an email by PayPal that the money has been send but will only be added to my account once I give them the tracking number. At least it seems legit up to this point but I'm still not sure.

groovyone · 01-03-2009, 12:13 AM

Scam

My_Two_Cents · 01-03-2009, 12:13 AM

What am I missing, here? Why is this a scam? If you have received the $360 in your PayPal account, then there is no scam. Are you saying you do not have a PayPal accoun? If so, then yeah, it's a scam.

edit: Either I didn't read the part about PayPal not depositing the $$ until the item shipped, or you added that while I was typing. Either way, I would contact PayPal directly. This smells of a scam.

JJ · 01-03-2009, 12:15 AM

Make sure the Paypal e-mail is legit, I've never heard of Paypal doing that.

crackinhedz · 01-03-2009, 12:15 AM

you definitely need to read the craigslist warnings to avoid scams...basically, all items should be pick up only.
Sounds like this guy is gonna file a dispute after he receives your item, saying he never received it or its not the correct item etc.

Definitely scam.

crackinhedz · 01-03-2009, 12:19 AM

Avoiding Scams and Fraud

* DEAL LOCALLY WITH FOLKS YOU CAN MEET IN PERSON - follow this one simple rule and you will avoid 99% of the scam attempts on craigslist.
* NEVER WIRE FUNDS VIA WESTERN UNION, MONEYGRAM or any other wire service - anyone who asks you to do so is a scammer.
* FAKE CASHIER CHECKS & MONEY ORDERS ARE COMMON, and BANKS WILL CASH THEM AND THEN HOLD YOU RESPONSIBLE when the fake is discovered weeks later.
* CRAIGSLIST IS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY TRANSACTION, and does not handle payments, guarantee transactions, provide escrow services, or offer "buyer protection" or "seller certification"
* NEVER GIVE OUT FINANCIAL INFORMATION (bank account number, social security number, eBay/PayPal info, etc.)
* AVOID DEALS INVOLVING SHIPPING OR ESCROW SERVICES and know that ONLY A SCAMMER WILL "GUARANTEE" YOUR TRANSACTION.

RealSkyDiver · 01-03-2009, 12:23 AM

I'm pretty sure (100%) that I won't sent this buyer anything because of my bad gut feeling but am still curious and want to let him hang as long as possible.
Here is the Email I received by services@paypal.com

Dear Valued Customer (xxx@xxx.com),

You have an Instant Payment of $360.00 USD from xxx (xxx@xxx.com)

xxx is a Verified Buyer.
Payment Details

Purchased From : xxx@xxx.com
Transaction ID:75848272WC001670H

Item #

Item Title

Quantity

Price

Subtotal
Not Include

Sony STR-K870P 5.1/6.1

1

$270.00 USD

$270.00 USD

Shipping & Handling via USPS Priority Mail to 368XX
(includes any seller handling fees)

$90.00 USD
Shipping Insurance (not offered):

--
Total:

$360.00 USD

Shipping Information
Address:

xxx
Shipping Method:

Address status:

Confirmed

For security purposes,

This PayPal payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been " APPROVED " but will not be credited to your account until the shipment reference/tracking number is sent to us for shipment verification so as to secure both the buyer and the seller. Below are the necessary information requested before your account will be credited. Send tracking number to us or email us through this mail shippment.information@accountant.com and our customer service care will attend to you. As soon as you send us the shipment's tracking number to us for security purposes and the safety of the buyer and the seller,the money will be credited to your account.

**PLEASE NOTE**
Once shipment has been verified and the tracking number has been sent to us, You will receive a "CONFIRMATION Email" from PayPal informing you that the Money has been credited to your PayPal account.

Thank you for using PayPal!
The PayPal Team

PayPal Email ID PP753

lutefisk69 · 01-03-2009, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSkyDiver

I'm pretty sure (100%) that I won't sent this buyer anything because of my bad gut feeling but am still curious and want to let him hang as long as possible.
Here is the Email I received by services@paypal.com

I am sure this is a scam. Paypal would not withhold a deposit. However, did you email Paypal? (not using the link from the email or replying to the email but going to the paypal website and ask them a question)

RealSkyDiver · 01-03-2009, 12:34 AM

Yeah that Email address is not from PayPal but I figured to have a little fun and send this email:

Ok I just got an Email from PayPal. Unfortunately I can't send it today but will do so by tomorrow.
Thanks you sooo much! Due to bad economy I lost my job, my wife needs to work overtime and we are still
barely able to buy food for our kids. This will help us alot. You are a really go person.

God bless you!!
John

crackinhedz · 01-03-2009, 12:36 AM

you should send him a fake USPS tracking number.

EDIT: even better, you should send him a box with a note inside telling him he's silly.

RealSkyDiver · 01-03-2009, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

you should send him a fake USPS tracking number.

EDIT: even better, you should send him a box with a note inside saying he's silly.

oohhhhhhh totally! How would that look like?

DetroitSportsFan · 01-03-2009, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

EDIT: even better, you should send him a box with a note inside telling him he's silly.

I like this idea.

DeeChizzle · 01-03-2009, 12:57 AM

This whole local buyer only thing is kind of silly when you think about how much business is done on Ebay everyday.

In this case something doesn't sound right if paypal is asking for shipping confirmation. If the payment would have been sent with no strings attached then I'd say it's legit.

Why don't you call paypal first and make sure everything looks good. If the shipment address is international the forget about it.

JJ · 01-03-2009, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

EDIT: even better, you should send him a box with a note inside telling him he's silly.

LMAO! Hilarious!

Siri · 01-03-2009, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

EDIT: even better, you should send him a box with a note inside telling him he's silly.

or instead of the note a Joker card, the one in the deck of cards I got for x-mas, is defaced, by the joker, it has HaHaHa written in red on it

JJ · 01-03-2009, 02:53 AM

LMAO! Send him a blank sheet of paper that just says "UP"

Siri · 01-03-2009, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

LMAO! Send him a blank sheet of paper that just says "UP"

01-03-2009, 12:08 AM	#1
RealSkyDiver Active Member Member since:Nov 2008	Can I trust this buyer? A buyer responded to my Craigslist ad and wants to send me money over paypal so I can ship my product to a certain place. Usually people come over to see it first but this buyer didn't even come over. I assume he lives overseas. Got an email by PayPal that the money has been send but will only be added to my account once I give them the tracking number. At least it seems legit up to this point but I'm still not sure. btw what does he mean buy "my account has been deducted"?? Here is the email I just received: Hi Seller, I just sent your payment successfully using paypal and i send $360 to your account with the shipping cost via USPS Express Mail and i'll want you to get the item for shipped immediately you received my payment notification from paypal.and i'll want you to shipped the item out today,Cos My account has been deducted... Here Is The Shipping Address : XXX I want the package to be sent by USPS Express Mail Service only because its very cheap,secure and reliable,I will be waiting for the tracking number.I will like to do more business with you after you have completed this transaction by Shipping out the item.Thank you Please Note : Thet shipment tracking info will start with EB,EH,EQ,EE and EA. Hope to hear from you soon. Here are the fake PayPal emails I received: FIRST SECOND THIRD FOURTH (with FBI LMAO) Last edited by RealSkyDiver; 01-06-2009 at 01:59 PM.

01-03-2009, 12:13 AM	#6
My_Two_Cents Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Wherever I may roam.... Home Theater Gallery:40 4K collection:35 Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:19 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:4	What am I missing, here? Why is this a scam? If you have received the $360 in your PayPal account, then there is no scam. Are you saying you do not have a PayPal accoun? If so, then yeah, it's a scam. edit: Either I didn't read the part about PayPal not depositing the $$ until the item shipped, or you added that while I was typing. Either way, I would contact PayPal directly. This smells of a scam. Last edited by My_Two_Cents; 01-03-2009 at 01:00 AM.

01-03-2009, 12:36 AM	#13
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	you should send him a fake USPS tracking number. EDIT: even better, you should send him a box with a note inside telling him he's silly. Last edited by crackinhedz; 01-03-2009 at 12:40 AM.

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01-03-2009, 12:10 AM	#2
badboi Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Atlanta	No. Sounds like a scam to me. Where is the shipping address he wants you to ship it to?

01-03-2009, 12:10 AM	#3
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	Nope. NO. Not at all. Ignore that fella and move on.

01-03-2009, 12:13 AM	#5
groovyone Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Location:PSNetwork: groovyone	Scam

01-03-2009, 12:15 AM	#7
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	Make sure the Paypal e-mail is legit, I've never heard of Paypal doing that.

01-03-2009, 12:19 AM	#9
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	Avoiding Scams and Fraud * DEAL LOCALLY WITH FOLKS YOU CAN MEET IN PERSON - follow this one simple rule and you will avoid 99% of the scam attempts on craigslist. * NEVER WIRE FUNDS VIA WESTERN UNION, MONEYGRAM or any other wire service - anyone who asks you to do so is a scammer. * FAKE CASHIER CHECKS & MONEY ORDERS ARE COMMON, and BANKS WILL CASH THEM AND THEN HOLD YOU RESPONSIBLE when the fake is discovered weeks later. * CRAIGSLIST IS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY TRANSACTION, and does not handle payments, guarantee transactions, provide escrow services, or offer "buyer protection" or "seller certification" * NEVER GIVE OUT FINANCIAL INFORMATION (bank account number, social security number, eBay/PayPal info, etc.) * AVOID DEALS INVOLVING SHIPPING OR ESCROW SERVICES and know that ONLY A SCAMMER WILL "GUARANTEE" YOUR TRANSACTION.

01-03-2009, 12:23 AM	#10
RealSkyDiver Active Member Member since:Nov 2008	I'm pretty sure (100%) that I won't sent this buyer anything because of my bad gut feeling but am still curious and want to let him hang as long as possible. Here is the Email I received by services@paypal.com Dear Valued Customer (xxx@xxx.com), You have an Instant Payment of $360.00 USD from xxx (xxx@xxx.com) xxx is a Verified Buyer. Payment Details Purchased From : xxx@xxx.com Transaction ID:75848272WC001670H Item # Item Title Quantity Price Subtotal Not Include Sony STR-K870P 5.1/6.1 1 $270.00 USD $270.00 USD Shipping & Handling via USPS Priority Mail to 368XX (includes any seller handling fees) $90.00 USD Shipping Insurance (not offered): -- Total: $360.00 USD Shipping Information Address: xxx Shipping Method: Address status: Confirmed For security purposes, This PayPal payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been " APPROVED " but will not be credited to your account until the shipment reference/tracking number is sent to us for shipment verification so as to secure both the buyer and the seller. Below are the necessary information requested before your account will be credited. Send tracking number to us or email us through this mail shippment.information@accountant.com and our customer service care will attend to you. As soon as you send us the shipment's tracking number to us for security purposes and the safety of the buyer and the seller,the money will be credited to your account. PLEASE NOTE Once shipment has been verified and the tracking number has been sent to us, You will receive a "CONFIRMATION Email" from PayPal informing you that the Money has been credited to your PayPal account. Thank you for using PayPal! The PayPal Team PayPal Email ID PP753

01-03-2009, 12:34 AM	#12
RealSkyDiver Active Member Member since:Nov 2008	Yeah that Email address is not from PayPal but I figured to have a little fun and send this email: Ok I just got an Email from PayPal. Unfortunately I can't send it today but will do so by tomorrow. Thanks you sooo much! Due to bad economy I lost my job, my wife needs to work overtime and we are still barely able to buy food for our kids. This will help us alot. You are a really go person. God bless you!! John

01-03-2009, 12:57 AM	#16
DeeChizzle Power Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:The Last Frontier Blu-ray collection:188 Blu-ray reviews:74 Trading Score:47	This whole local buyer only thing is kind of silly when you think about how much business is done on Ebay everyday. In this case something doesn't sound right if paypal is asking for shipping confirmation. If the payment would have been sent with no strings attached then I'd say it's legit. Why don't you call paypal first and make sure everything looks good. If the shipment address is international the forget about it.

01-03-2009, 02:53 AM	#19
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	LMAO! Send him a blank sheet of paper that just says "UP"

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