7.1 worth it? - Blu-ray Forum

raw nerve · 01-26-2009, 03:45 AM

I placed a order for a SVS SCS-01 SBS rears 5.0 and wanted to know if I should upgrade to a 7.1? My room is tiny 10x12x^9 with the sofa being pushed back to the wall. My installer told me that 7.1 would open up my sweet spot a bit more and that 7.1 is the furture? Any help would be great.

crazyBLUE · 01-26-2009, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by raw nerve

I placed a order for a SVS SCS-01 SBS rears 5.0 and wanted to know if I should upgrade to a 7.1? My room is tiny 10x12x^9 with the sofa being pushed back to the wall. My installer told me that 7.1 would open up my sweet spot a bit more and that 7.1 is the furture? Any help would be great.

Yes it is worth it . A week ago I bought 2 tower speakers to use as my surr. giving me 7.1 ! The sound field now is completely different , Way better !!

Gremal · 01-26-2009, 04:10 AM

Just to play devil's advocate, very little 7.1 content exists. One could easily make the argument that it is not worth the $$ to have the extra two channels.

But I have a 7.1 system and I'm hopeful that more content is coming with seven discreet channels.

phlydude · 01-26-2009, 04:28 AM

agreed - I have 7.1 and very rarely are the 6th and 7th channels used

Hell, most movies don't even take full advantage of 5.1

I'd say wire for them and save the money for a while - and if you find a great deal on the extra speakers, do it

BluHavik · 01-26-2009, 09:18 AM

I had 7.1 and went to 5.1 with the front's bi-amp'd. If your AVR can matrix 5.1 to 7.1 by all means go 7.1.

McGarnigal · 01-26-2009, 03:54 PM

I'm getting a new 7.1 receiver, but everything i own is 5.1. I'm thinking of putting up enough speakers for 6.1, so my question is.... is it better to matrix 7.1 form a 6.1 setup, a 5.1 setup, or is it a draw?

toolman46and2 · 01-26-2009, 04:12 PM

Make sure it can matrix 5.1 to 7.1, otherwise all of your 5.1 titles will come through the center channel and not the rear. I have the Onkyo 605 and it cant matrix, so I went back to 5.1

McGarnigal · 01-26-2009, 04:30 PM

its the onkyo 606

aramis109 · 01-26-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by McGarnigal

its the onkyo 606

There have been some conversations over at AVS that supposedly this feature has been added to the 606. However, I'm not sure it has been added for HD audio codecs. It would be worth your while to find out for sure. Easiest way is:

1. Make sure you have the newest firmware for your receiver.
2. During playback of HD audio, see if you can change the surround mode to PL IIx or if it just goes from "Direct" to "Audyssey".

ozzman · 01-26-2009, 04:53 PM

I love 7.1 But is't not for everyone.Rambo is in 7.1 and i love the rain scenes and Shoot em up sounds amazing in 7.1.I love it.
If you got it then use it

Sonny · 01-26-2009, 05:03 PM

I'm also a fan of 7.1! If you got it use it!!

fugitsu · 01-26-2009, 10:23 PM

It does sound better than a 5.1 system, but it's not totally worth it just yet.

Since I'm upgrading my fronts and using those ones as my new rears, I'll be able to use my old rears as side speakers... but that's the only reason I'm doing it. I don't have to buy any new speakers at all, it's just a bit of wiring for me.

I'd say wire your room for it, but don't buy the speakers just yet. Unless you do have some decent speakers lying around...

Heart&Soul · 01-26-2009, 10:35 PM

7.1 is better than 5.1.

mrbigsho83 · 01-26-2009, 10:44 PM

Lots of video games on PS3 support 7.1 so if youre a big gamer, I recommend a 7.1 system...

talbers23 · 01-26-2009, 10:45 PM

a good receiver with 7.1 can make a big difference too. I run 7.1 with everything and it sounds wonderful.

Gremal · 01-26-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbigsho83

Lots of video games on PS3 support 7.1 so if youre a big gamer, I recommend a 7.1 system...

Which ones? I don't think any of mine do.

raw nerve · 01-27-2009, 12:04 AM

Well I just bought the new denon 2309ci So I think it does turn 5.1 into 7.1. Plus I have been known to second guess and upgrade pretty much everything I buy so for a few more bucks I should just do it now. Here is some pic of my room where would I put the rear 4 speakers?

Beta Man · 01-27-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by raw nerve

I think it does turn 5.1 into 7.1

No such thing..... a 5.1 encode can only be played as 5.1 through 8 speakers (7.1) but that doesn't make it 7.1

It's simply splitting the signal from the surrounds (2 speakers) into the surrounds and rears (4 speakers) but it's sending 6 discrete audio signals, NOT 8, such as 7.1

Just like currently there is only a .1 but not .2 such as 7.2

To get a true 7.2 takes more than adding a second sub, it would require audio tracks being written so two subs are each receiving a separate signal, not just two subs in two different places playing the same low frequency at the same time...... There currently aren't any Blu-rays or other home media for that matter, that offers a 7.2 audio track.

as for your question, it's not 4 rear speakers you want.... you want two rears, and two side surrounds, but you're going to want to move your couch because your rears should be BEHIND you! and preferrably not used as a head-rest

buckshot · 01-27-2009, 12:24 AM

7.1 is awesome. the first time you hear an uncompressed 7.1 track it will surprise you with how great it is. bullets voices explosions all of it sounds great when its coming from all around you.

crazyBLUE · 01-27-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by buckshot

7.1 is awesome. the first time you hear an uncompressed 7.1 track it will surprise you with how great it is. bullets voices explosions all of it sounds great when its coming from all around you.

+1

01-26-2009, 03:45 AM	#1
raw nerve Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Bayonne NJ Home Theater Gallery:4	7.1 worth it? I placed a order for a SVS SCS-01 SBS rears 5.0 and wanted to know if I should upgrade to a 7.1? My room is tiny 10x12x^9 with the sofa being pushed back to the wall. My installer told me that 7.1 would open up my sweet spot a bit more and that 7.1 is the furture? Any help would be great.

01-26-2009, 10:44 PM	#14
mrbigsho83 Junior Member Member since:Jan 2008	Video Games Lots of video games on PS3 support 7.1 so if youre a big gamer, I recommend a 7.1 system...

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01-26-2009, 04:10 AM	#3
Gremal Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Daddyland Home Theater Gallery:49 Blu-ray collection:184	Just to play devil's advocate, very little 7.1 content exists. One could easily make the argument that it is not worth the $$ to have the extra two channels. But I have a 7.1 system and I'm hopeful that more content is coming with seven discreet channels.

01-26-2009, 04:28 AM	#4
phlydude Power Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Winter Garden, FL USA Playstation ID: phlydude Blu-ray collection:132 Trading Score:1	agreed - I have 7.1 and very rarely are the 6th and 7th channels used Hell, most movies don't even take full advantage of 5.1 I'd say wire for them and save the money for a while - and if you find a great deal on the extra speakers, do it

01-26-2009, 09:18 AM	#5
BluHavik Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:STL Blu-ray collection:32	I had 7.1 and went to 5.1 with the front's bi-amp'd. If your AVR can matrix 5.1 to 7.1 by all means go 7.1.

01-26-2009, 03:54 PM	#6
McGarnigal Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:148 Blu-ray collection:328 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:10	I'm getting a new 7.1 receiver, but everything i own is 5.1. I'm thinking of putting up enough speakers for 6.1, so my question is.... is it better to matrix 7.1 form a 6.1 setup, a 5.1 setup, or is it a draw?

01-26-2009, 04:12 PM	#7
toolman46and2 Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray collection:46 Trading Score:2	Make sure it can matrix 5.1 to 7.1, otherwise all of your 5.1 titles will come through the center channel and not the rear. I have the Onkyo 605 and it cant matrix, so I went back to 5.1

01-26-2009, 04:30 PM	#8
McGarnigal Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:148 Blu-ray collection:328 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:10	its the onkyo 606

01-26-2009, 04:53 PM	#10
ozzman Power Member Member since:May 2008 Location:St. Catharines ONT Home Theater Gallery:37	I love 7.1 But is't not for everyone.Rambo is in 7.1 and i love the rain scenes and Shoot em up sounds amazing in 7.1.I love it. If you got it then use it

01-26-2009, 05:03 PM	#11
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	I'm also a fan of 7.1! If you got it use it!!

01-26-2009, 10:23 PM	#12
fugitsu Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Seattle, Washington Home Theater Gallery:62 Blu-ray collection:32 Blu-ray reviews:1	It does sound better than a 5.1 system, but it's not totally worth it just yet. Since I'm upgrading my fronts and using those ones as my new rears, I'll be able to use my old rears as side speakers... but that's the only reason I'm doing it. I don't have to buy any new speakers at all, it's just a bit of wiring for me. I'd say wire your room for it, but don't buy the speakers just yet. Unless you do have some decent speakers lying around...

01-26-2009, 10:35 PM	#13
Heart&Soul Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Oregon 4K collection:167 Blu-ray collection:725 Blu-ray reviews:50	7.1 is better than 5.1.

01-26-2009, 10:45 PM	#15
talbers23 Active Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:24 iTunes collection:45	a good receiver with 7.1 can make a big difference too. I run 7.1 with everything and it sounds wonderful.

01-27-2009, 12:04 AM	#17
raw nerve Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Bayonne NJ Home Theater Gallery:4	Well I just bought the new denon 2309ci So I think it does turn 5.1 into 7.1. Plus I have been known to second guess and upgrade pretty much everything I buy so for a few more bucks I should just do it now. Here is some pic of my room where would I put the rear 4 speakers?

01-27-2009, 12:24 AM	#19
buckshot Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:san die ego Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	7.1 is awesome. the first time you hear an uncompressed 7.1 track it will surprise you with how great it is. bullets voices explosions all of it sounds great when its coming from all around you.

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