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Chevypower · 02-10-2009, 05:30 AM

Anyone seen this? Before anyone starts going off "it will never take off, we have just gotten over a format war..." this isn't aimed at the mass consumer distribution market, but it does allow for 4K distribution, and I think it would be awesome. I would love to work with Red equipment, and think the workflow looks great. I don't know what the real color of the laser is though. I am sure the "red" just refers to the Red brand.
http://www.red.com/nab/redray/

RiseDarthVader · 02-10-2009, 06:09 AM

Laser would nto be red because that is the colour of the laser for DVD which has a bad wavelength compared to blue.

Jeff Kleist · 02-10-2009, 06:17 AM

Basically it's a fast way to ship out highly compressed dailies in a computer friendly format during production for use with the RED system. It does use a red laser becuase it uses DVDs

Chevypower · 02-10-2009, 06:28 AM

I don't get it though... REDCODE is 100-200mbs? DVD is 4.7GB. How and Why?

Jeff Kleist · 02-10-2009, 06:32 AM

These aren't full res, they're the digital equivalent of rushes. Even though the footage may be 4K in raw res, hypothetically XBox Live and PSN movie downloads are 720p as well

They're not intended as final product.

lch · 02-10-2009, 02:42 PM

it's just a product name, bcos their brand name is call 'red', so they call their player 'red ray'
they are also one of the first 4k camera.

reallyagi · 02-10-2009, 02:51 PM

Many directors are excited with the RED equipment, seems like it gives them a lot of freedom when preparing their shots. I don't think the RED RAY player is aimed at consumers though.

Elandyll · 02-10-2009, 03:13 PM

They claim that their codec is so efficient, they can put 2h of 4K video along with audio (what kind of audio is unspecified) on a 9Gb DVD.
This being said, the release of Red Ray went from "Q1 2009" to "2009" on their website, with the mention that "they do not take any reservation on Scarlet, Epic or Red Ray".

I am still highly skeptical of this, we'll have to wait and see.

For Jeff, this is without any form of authoring, true, but video is video, and if a player delivers "true" real time 4K along with uncompressed audio (2.0 to 5.1) -which I more than highly doubt-, that'd be industry changing.

Something tells me they made this anounce (and chose that name) only to piss off people at Sony during the last NAB, and that in reality there are some serious drawbacks to this technology.
There is bad blood between Sony Pro and Red acording to what I've read...

Chevypower · 02-10-2009, 04:35 PM

They also say to "count on" specs change by the time it got released. That totally happened with the Red Scarlet camera (which changed for the better).

02-10-2009, 05:30 AM	#1
Chevypower Special Member Member since:Feb 2008	Red ray Anyone seen this? Before anyone starts going off "it will never take off, we have just gotten over a format war..." this isn't aimed at the mass consumer distribution market, but it does allow for 4K distribution, and I think it would be awesome. I would love to work with Red equipment, and think the workflow looks great. I don't know what the real color of the laser is though. I am sure the "red" just refers to the Red brand. http://www.red.com/nab/redray/

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02-10-2009, 06:09 AM	#2
RiseDarthVader Power Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Australia Blu-ray collection:136	Laser would nto be red because that is the colour of the laser for DVD which has a bad wavelength compared to blue.

02-10-2009, 06:17 AM	#3
Jeff Kleist The Digital Bits Member since:Jul 2008 Trading Score:1	Basically it's a fast way to ship out highly compressed dailies in a computer friendly format during production for use with the RED system. It does use a red laser becuase it uses DVDs

02-10-2009, 06:28 AM	#4
Chevypower Special Member Member since:Feb 2008	I don't get it though... REDCODE is 100-200mbs? DVD is 4.7GB. How and Why?

02-10-2009, 06:32 AM	#5
Jeff Kleist The Digital Bits Member since:Jul 2008 Trading Score:1	These aren't full res, they're the digital equivalent of rushes. Even though the footage may be 4K in raw res, hypothetically XBox Live and PSN movie downloads are 720p as well They're not intended as final product.

02-10-2009, 02:42 PM	#6
lch Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:103 Blu-ray collection:813 Blu-ray reviews:1	it's just a product name, bcos their brand name is call 'red', so they call their player 'red ray' they are also one of the first 4k camera.

02-10-2009, 02:51 PM	#7
reallyagi Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Chicago, IL Blu-ray collection:182 Trading Score:5	Many directors are excited with the RED equipment, seems like it gives them a lot of freedom when preparing their shots. I don't think the RED RAY player is aimed at consumers though.

02-10-2009, 03:13 PM	#8
Elandyll Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Location:MD Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:1	They claim that their codec is so efficient, they can put 2h of 4K video along with audio (what kind of audio is unspecified) on a 9Gb DVD. This being said, the release of Red Ray went from "Q1 2009" to "2009" on their website, with the mention that "they do not take any reservation on Scarlet, Epic or Red Ray". I am still highly skeptical of this, we'll have to wait and see. For Jeff, this is without any form of authoring, true, but video is video, and if a player delivers "true" real time 4K along with uncompressed audio (2.0 to 5.1) -which I more than highly doubt-, that'd be industry changing. Something tells me they made this anounce (and chose that name) only to piss off people at Sony during the last NAB, and that in reality there are some serious drawbacks to this technology. There is bad blood between Sony Pro and Red acording to what I've read...

02-10-2009, 04:35 PM	#9
Chevypower Special Member Member since:Feb 2008	They also say to "count on" specs change by the time it got released. That totally happened with the Red Scarlet camera (which changed for the better).

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