Panasonic PT-AE3000 NEW Projector! - Blu-ray Forum

Schrute Farms · 10-24-2008, 02:55 AM

This might be the projector that sets the standard for projectors under $3000. Does anyone have any hands-on experience with it?

Now do I buy this or the Epson HC1080UB?

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pana...tor_review.htm

STARSCREAM · 10-24-2008, 03:39 AM

Hey, glad to see an official pt-ae3000u thread started!

. I have one pre-ordered and should (hopefully) be getting it next week!!!!

Got2LoveGadgets · 10-24-2008, 03:16 PM

I cant decide between the Panny and the Sanyo think im swaying slightly to the Panny though. Would be great to hear from anyone who has actually got one. AVS have a good video review

ryoohki · 10-24-2008, 03:53 PM

MAP Price is 2499$ witch is Awesome for Panasonic.

The Sanyo will be almost the same machine but we only know the MSRP witch will be 3299.99$. I think Sanyo will match Panasonic 2499.99$ price. the MSRP for the AE3000 is 3499$ so it's 1000$ less on the Street LOL!

the New epson will likely to be about 2599$ Street. They'll all share the same specs. All got 120hz 1080p LCD Panel. All about 60000:1 of Theorical CR (with all ON). Sanyo will have 1200 lumens... Pana 1600 so if you have total light control and a 100' screen 1600 is overkill other the Panasonic will be a better choice

H9k_ · 10-25-2008, 02:03 PM

How can you say it is overkill when it is screen and calibration dependant and other variables? It was also measured closer to 1200 than 1600. Even if it was true 1600 and "overkill" you could set it to eco mode and double or tripple your bulp life and also have a good picture. And by the way, when viewing 2.35:1 or wider films the output will be cut by about 25%.

So how can you say it wil be overkill?

Brain Sturgeon · 10-25-2008, 02:22 PM

Having more lumens horsepower is almost always a good thing, as you can always reduce lumens output with Eco modes or by the use of neutral density filters. However, lumen output ratings for almost all projectors out there are highly inflated. In best calibrated mode, most projectors have lumen ratings that are fractions of what the "rated lumens" are. Truthfully speaking, the only way you are going to get in excess of 1000 true measured lumens in best calibrated mode is with a three chip DLP PJ, all of which are in excess of 20k.

Regardless, most of these projectors should be fine for screens up to 120-130".

gandley · 10-25-2008, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryoohki

MAP Price is 2499$ witch is Awesome for Panasonic.

The Sanyo will be almost the same machine but we only know the MSRP witch will be 3299.99$. I think Sanyo will match Panasonic 2499.99$ price. the MSRP for the AE3000 is 3499$ so it's 1000$ less on the Street LOL!

the New epson will likely to be about 2599$ Street. They'll all share the same specs. All got 120hz 1080p LCD Panel. All about 60000:1 of Theorical CR (with all ON). Sanyo will have 1200 lumens... Pana 1600 so if you have total light control and a 100' screen 1600 is overkill other the Panasonic will be a better choice

what aloud of crap.

1600 overkill?? you do realise that when calibrated in best mode the panasonic AE3000 only puts out about 550 lumens!! yes no where near the claimed 1600L.

the Epson 7500UB (euro tw5000)also has a native contrast ratio of 6000:1. the panasonic only has 3300:1 native so there not the same spec.

there is quite a bit of difference with these 3 models, so dont think they are same across the pack.

the Epson will most likly be the best of the bunch and will be alot sharper than the panasonic which has quite a soft image (though film like).
the panasonic has a great price and some good features.

ryoohki · 10-26-2008, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandley

what aloud of crap.

1600 overkill?? you do realise that when calibrated in best mode the panasonic AE3000 only puts out about 550 lumens!! yes no where near the claimed 1600L.

the Epson 7500UB (euro tw5000)also has a native contrast ratio of 6000:1. the panasonic only has 3300:1 native so there not the same spec.

there is quite a bit of difference with these 3 models, so dont think they are same across the pack.

the Epson will most likly be the best of the bunch and will be alot sharper than the panasonic which has quite a soft image (though film like).
the panasonic has a great price and some good features.

I know that. But even so. Who's using VIVID mode on a Projector anyway? Most of the time Vivid give you most lumens. I have a Z2000 and i never use that because that setting burn my face with light. So have even more would only be usefull with light are on (some) or if you have a 107' + screen.

They all use the same basic 3LCD panel. But each model does tweak with them by using filters, different lamp, different lamp path, optics etc. Panasonic use Smoothscreen, that's why it look a little bit softer than the other.

In all, if all on those model are in the same price range, you'll get about the same performance. If the UB is priced higher then it would be better spec wise. They're no magic in electronics.

Anyway i don't know if you see what i'am saying here. I not's a brand fanatics. I Owned projectors from Panasonic, BenQ and Sanyo. I almost bought a 1080UB but they where so many problems with Panel alignement (in the beggining) that i choosed the Sanyo..

gandley · 10-26-2008, 08:28 PM

i see what your saying for sure and my first post after re reading it was a bit harsh, sorry about that.

while they use the same 3LCD panels Epson have a few advanced tricks in its light path that give it its deeper blacks.
Panasonic have reduced light scatter to get better blacks over the AE2000 but not to the same extent as Epson has done with its improved DeepBlack tech.
So a bit more to it than just the 3LCD panels used.

AE3000 will be a great projector and the price of it in the USA makes it a HC bargain.

ryoohki · 10-27-2008, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandley

i see what your saying for sure and my first post after re reading it was a bit harsh, sorry about that.

while they use the same 3LCD panels Epson have a few advanced tricks in its light path that give it its deeper blacks.
Panasonic have reduced light scatter to get better blacks over the AE2000 but not to the same extent as Epson has done with its improved DeepBlack tech.
So a bit more to it than just the 3LCD panels used.

AE3000 will be a great projector and the price of it in the USA makes it a HC bargain.

Nah it's ok. English is not my first language so sometime i tried to say something and it read all weird because of it

While i won't change mine for at least another generation. I can't wait to see how the others will score agaisn't the panasonic. I can't have a DLP because i see the colorwheel too much so i'am a LCD man!

STARSCREAM · 10-28-2008, 02:46 AM

I heard from my sales rep at PP today and mine should be shipping out to me this week. It will be close if I am able to receive it before the weekend or not. If not it should be very early next week. I'll post my impressions as soon as I can.

Oddiophile · 10-28-2008, 02:58 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^
Sweet, looking forward to hearing your impressions.

No doubt the AE3000 will be an awesome projector.

Still...As temping as the AE3000 is at its street price I'll still going to hold out to see the Epson 6500UB/7500UB first. I have no doubt the Epson performance wise will best the Panasonic.

STARSCREAM · 10-29-2008, 04:50 PM

Yeahhhh mine shipped today. It will either be Friday OR Monday...cmon Friday!

gandley · 10-29-2008, 05:40 PM

looking forward to your first impressions. should be great

JJBOOGIE · 10-30-2008, 05:40 PM

i'm on my 2nd Mitsubishi - my brother took over my HC5000

very good projector and the 6000 is killer...

but reading the reviews and going by features, it certainly sounds like this is going to be the head of the class

STARSCREAM · 10-31-2008, 06:13 AM

Dang it, not gonna be here until Monday.

. 3 more days to go without a projector...I'm dying to watch Incredible Hulk.

raggarichie · 10-31-2008, 08:18 AM

I'm debating between this projector and the Mits HC6500u. I understand this projector have a better contrast ratio over the HC6500 but i'm not sure about the bulb life on the panny. furthermore I can get the HC6500 for 1899+ tax(yes i'm sure it's the hc6500). I'm upgrading from the MITS HD1000u which is a 720p projector. All I plan to use this projector for is Blu ray movies and major sports events when i have company over. as i said my main concern is the bulb life.

I'm hoping to hear from someone who at lest seen both these projectors and can give me there insight.

JJBOOGIE · 10-31-2008, 05:32 PM

i haven't seen this one but if you have seen the Mitsu's you know they are a very good projector...i spent a lot of time before getting my recent mitsu looking at the panny and in the end, i could not justify the additional cost at the time...in fact, most everyone i talked to agreed that they only real way you would be unsatisifed is if you put up both side by side and nitpicked at it...

if you get the Mitsu you will be very happy...if you get the Panny you'll be very happy...my personal feeling is that you'll be more happy if you get the Mitsu and realize how good it is and how much money you saved...that's what i did and that's how i feel when i watch mine - i never think, geez i really wish i had spent about $750 or whatever it was for me that i saved...

if you are only using it for special events, sports, movies and not your regular TV programming or for kids, the bulb life will be fine...

anyway - my 2 cents

JJBOOGIE · 10-31-2008, 05:33 PM

PS - where the heck are you seeing a mitsu 6500 at that price?

krinkle · 11-02-2008, 06:12 AM

I have this projector for about 48 hours now.

It is much better than my old one, the HC5000 Mitsu.

It has noticeably deeper blacks and more punch.

However it is not perfect. I HATE the lens cap. I mean HATE it, very annoying to take on and off and I always feel it might scratch the lens.

Really it just seems like a HC5000 but with nicer blacks.

10-24-2008, 02:55 AM	#1
Schrute Farms Special Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Central Wisconsin Home Theater Gallery:33 Blu-ray collection:387 Blu-ray reviews:19 Trading Score:31	Panasonic PT-AE3000 NEW Projector! This might be the projector that sets the standard for projectors under $3000. Does anyone have any hands-on experience with it? Now do I buy this or the Epson HC1080UB? http://www.projectorcentral.com/pana...tor_review.htm

10-25-2008, 02:03 PM	#5
H9k_ Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Vikingland	Overkill? How can you say it is overkill when it is screen and calibration dependant and other variables? It was also measured closer to 1200 than 1600. Even if it was true 1600 and "overkill" you could set it to eco mode and double or tripple your bulp life and also have a good picture. And by the way, when viewing 2.35:1 or wider films the output will be cut by about 25%. So how can you say it wil be overkill?

10-31-2008, 08:18 AM	#17
raggarichie Member Member since:Aug 2007	I'm debating between this projector and the Mits HC6500u I'm debating between this projector and the Mits HC6500u. I understand this projector have a better contrast ratio over the HC6500 but i'm not sure about the bulb life on the panny. furthermore I can get the HC6500 for 1899+ tax(yes i'm sure it's the hc6500). I'm upgrading from the MITS HD1000u which is a 720p projector. All I plan to use this projector for is Blu ray movies and major sports events when i have company over. as i said my main concern is the bulb life. I'm hoping to hear from someone who at lest seen both these projectors and can give me there insight.

Similar Threads
thread	Forum	Thread Starter	Replies	Last Post
Cleaning the Panasonic AE3000	Projectors	ryoohki	5	12-27-2011 06:33 AM
Panasonic PT-AE3000 NEW Projector and DVD performance	Projectors	Ron Walker	29	06-04-2009 12:06 AM
Cooling and the Panasonic PT-AE3000	Projectors	Ron Walker	5	03-21-2009 06:01 PM
Epson HC1080UB vs. Panasonic PT-AE3000	Projectors	Schrute Farms	35	01-03-2009 03:43 AM

10-24-2008, 03:39 AM	#2
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	Hey, glad to see an official pt-ae3000u thread started! . I have one pre-ordered and should (hopefully) be getting it next week!!!!

10-24-2008, 03:16 PM	#3
Got2LoveGadgets Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:UK Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:100 Blu-ray reviews:4	I cant decide between the Panny and the Sanyo think im swaying slightly to the Panny though. Would be great to hear from anyone who has actually got one. AVS have a good video review

10-24-2008, 03:53 PM	#4
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	MAP Price is 2499$ witch is Awesome for Panasonic. The Sanyo will be almost the same machine but we only know the MSRP witch will be 3299.99$. I think Sanyo will match Panasonic 2499.99$ price. the MSRP for the AE3000 is 3499$ so it's 1000$ less on the Street LOL! the New epson will likely to be about 2599$ Street. They'll all share the same specs. All got 120hz 1080p LCD Panel. All about 60000:1 of Theorical CR (with all ON). Sanyo will have 1200 lumens... Pana 1600 so if you have total light control and a 100' screen 1600 is overkill other the Panasonic will be a better choice

10-25-2008, 02:22 PM	#6
Brain Sturgeon Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Sep 2007 Home Theater Gallery:39	Having more lumens horsepower is almost always a good thing, as you can always reduce lumens output with Eco modes or by the use of neutral density filters. However, lumen output ratings for almost all projectors out there are highly inflated. In best calibrated mode, most projectors have lumen ratings that are fractions of what the "rated lumens" are. Truthfully speaking, the only way you are going to get in excess of 1000 true measured lumens in best calibrated mode is with a three chip DLP PJ, all of which are in excess of 20k. Regardless, most of these projectors should be fine for screens up to 120-130".

10-26-2008, 08:28 PM	#9
gandley Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:The Drowning Pool	i see what your saying for sure and my first post after re reading it was a bit harsh, sorry about that. while they use the same 3LCD panels Epson have a few advanced tricks in its light path that give it its deeper blacks. Panasonic have reduced light scatter to get better blacks over the AE2000 but not to the same extent as Epson has done with its improved DeepBlack tech. So a bit more to it than just the 3LCD panels used. AE3000 will be a great projector and the price of it in the USA makes it a HC bargain.

10-28-2008, 02:46 AM	#11
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	I heard from my sales rep at PP today and mine should be shipping out to me this week. It will be close if I am able to receive it before the weekend or not. If not it should be very early next week. I'll post my impressions as soon as I can.

10-28-2008, 02:58 AM	#12
Oddiophile Expert Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Phoenix, AZ 4K collection:1034 Blu-ray collection:1435 Trading Score:6	^^^^^^^^^^^ Sweet, looking forward to hearing your impressions. No doubt the AE3000 will be an awesome projector. Still...As temping as the AE3000 is at its street price I'll still going to hold out to see the Epson 6500UB/7500UB first. I have no doubt the Epson performance wise will best the Panasonic.

10-29-2008, 04:50 PM	#13
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	Yeahhhh mine shipped today. It will either be Friday OR Monday...cmon Friday!

10-29-2008, 05:40 PM	#14
gandley Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:The Drowning Pool	looking forward to your first impressions. should be great

10-30-2008, 05:40 PM	#15
JJBOOGIE Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:11	i'm on my 2nd Mitsubishi - my brother took over my HC5000 very good projector and the 6000 is killer... but reading the reviews and going by features, it certainly sounds like this is going to be the head of the class

10-31-2008, 06:13 AM	#16
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	Dang it, not gonna be here until Monday. . 3 more days to go without a projector...I'm dying to watch Incredible Hulk.

10-31-2008, 05:32 PM	#18
JJBOOGIE Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:11	i haven't seen this one but if you have seen the Mitsu's you know they are a very good projector...i spent a lot of time before getting my recent mitsu looking at the panny and in the end, i could not justify the additional cost at the time...in fact, most everyone i talked to agreed that they only real way you would be unsatisifed is if you put up both side by side and nitpicked at it... if you get the Mitsu you will be very happy...if you get the Panny you'll be very happy...my personal feeling is that you'll be more happy if you get the Mitsu and realize how good it is and how much money you saved...that's what i did and that's how i feel when i watch mine - i never think, geez i really wish i had spent about $750 or whatever it was for me that i saved... if you are only using it for special events, sports, movies and not your regular TV programming or for kids, the bulb life will be fine... anyway - my 2 cents

10-31-2008, 05:33 PM	#19
JJBOOGIE Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:11	PS - where the heck are you seeing a mitsu 6500 at that price?

11-02-2008, 06:12 AM	#20
krinkle Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray collection:41 Trading Score:10	I have this projector for about 48 hours now. It is much better than my old one, the HC5000 Mitsu. It has noticeably deeper blacks and more punch. However it is not perfect. I HATE the lens cap. I mean HATE it, very annoying to take on and off and I always feel it might scratch the lens. Really it just seems like a HC5000 but with nicer blacks.

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals