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Old 04-08-2009, 10:49 AM   #1
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Question Rambo Box

Sorry if there is already a thread on the exact same thing, didn't see one:


But I saw a 'Rambo'-box with the 4 films in it.
Now I was wondering, would those be like the same discs or transfers as any other BD-release?
Such as the box with the first 3 films or the separate releases.

So basically, how can they be compared to the ones rated on this website?
Because I do not see the same box, unless I overlooked it.
Which is strange, because I thought this site would have all of them.
Especially when already having so many other releases of 'Rambo'-films on here.


Anyway, is this specific box any good and should I get it?
On the other hand, I also saw there will be a 5th one out.
So maybe I might get the box with the first 3 and the "modern" ones together later?
Then again, there just might even be a 6th later on, so it could be a long wait to get 3 by 3.
Unfortunately I missed 'Rambo' at the cinema, so I couldn't watch it before the 5th if I'd have to wait to get it. :\
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:38 PM   #2
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The only box set i was aware of contains the first 3 Rambo films,which is rather cheap in the U.S.I got the fourth film separately,but it can be had fairly cheap now too.Sorry i couldnt be of more help.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:50 PM   #3
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i agree
i have yet to see a box set with all 4 movies

only the first three and 4th seperate

you can get all four for reasonably cheap on amazon btw:

http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=12392201...ay%20box%20set

http://www.amazon.com/Rambo-Blu-ray-...9220185&sr=8-3

its only around 50bucks without shipping for all 4 movies

also the newest one is a pretty good movie, you should definitly check it out soon
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:58 PM   #4
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Well, here you go:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rambo-Ultima...9227616&sr=1-1

I forgot to say that this is probably a UK-release, seeing the rating-logos on the packaging.
But I also couldn't find it on the .com/US-site of Amazon.
Well, most I could find is this one: http://www.amazon.com/Rambo-Blu-ray/...227584&sr=1-11
Which is only sold for a ridiculous price by a seller in Austria...
And the description from Amazon says "this item has been discontinued by the manufacturer".
However, the .co.uk-site this sells it officially.
It's only about 18 pounds, maybe I should buy it out of principle?
Then again, I'm not sure what to think of this "unknown" box,
at least on this website curiously enough, and the price for FOUR BD-films.


Once again, a really strange case... why do I always run into these things?...

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Old 04-08-2009, 10:04 PM   #5
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Well, here you go:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rambo-Ultima...9227616&sr=1-1

I forgot to say that this is probably a UK-release, seeing the rating-logos on the packaging.
But I also couldn't find it on the .com/US-site of Amazon.
Well, most I could find is this one: http://www.amazon.com/Rambo-Blu-ray/...227584&sr=1-11
Which is only sold for a ridiculous price by a seller in Austria...
And the description from Amazon says "this item has been discontinued by the manufacturer".
However, the .co.uk-site this sells it officially.
It's only about 18 pounds, maybe I should buy it out of principle?
Then again, I'm not sure what to think of this "unknown" box,
at least on this website curiously enough, and the price for FOUR BD-films.


Once again, a really strange case... why do I always run into these things?...
i assume it would look the same, maybe not though
its the PAL version, so im not sure what difference that makes, isnt made using a different encode?
try checking some european review sites maybe
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:10 PM   #6
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i assume it would look the same, maybe not though
its the PAL version, so im not sure what difference that makes, isnt made using a different encode?
try checking some european review sites maybe
Hm.
For what I've been told, for example with the US-version of 'Iron Man' I got recently,
that sóme NTSC-bonus-material might not work correctly.
But that's just compatibility-stuff, I live in B anyway. :P
I don't think it would affect quality, unless...

That's another topic, but I wonder if you'd see a difference in the framerate of 25 and 30.
But that shouldn't be an issue since a film should look one specific way.
Hopefully that is consistent between NTSC and PAL...

Anyway, I'll try and find some more information about this specific box then.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:16 PM   #7
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Hm.
For what I've been told, for example with the US-version of 'Iron Man' I got recently,
that sóme NTSC-bonus-material might not work correctly.
But that's just compatibility-stuff, I live in B anyway. :P
I don't think it would affect quality, unless...

That's another topic, but I wonder if you'd see a difference in the framerate of 25 and 30.
But that shouldn't be an issue since a film should look one specific way.
Hopefully that is consistent between NTSC and PAL...

Anyway, I'll try and find some more information about this specific box then.
im not sure if you would see the difference from that small of a difference
i mean from 60 to 30 i dont see a huge difference, a difference yes but not as big as some people say they can see
i've never been that observant
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:19 PM   #8
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Compared to the US release of Rambo I think that the UK one is better IDK maybe I am bias

So buy it as the packaging looks cool
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:22 PM   #9
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im not sure if you would see the difference from that small of a difference
i mean from 60 to 30 i dont see a huge difference, a difference yes but not as big as some people say they can see
i've never been that observant
About the framerate?...

Well, I'm not sure if it's comparable to games.
But there is this typical difference between say 25 and 30 and 35.
Being 25 is tiresome and "choppy" and 30-35 and above is smooth.
Again, that could just be for 3D-software-stuff...

It's just strange to find that there are different framerates in regions.
Since filmmakers use specific framerates to start with to get a specific effect or atmosphere.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:24 PM   #10
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Compared to the US release of Rambo I think that the UK one is better IDK maybe I am bias

So buy it as the packaging looks cool
Yeah, the packaging really caught my eye as I really don't like anything "blu" as in the promoting of it.
Hence the cluttered packaging usually.
I don't care thát much, but I really don't like how they did it.
But yeah... I like to find these alternative ones.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:56 PM   #11
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Compared to the US release of Rambo I think that the UK one is better IDK maybe I am bias

So buy it as the packaging looks cool
Um, no. It's sh!t and has virtually no extras on the 1st three films. Ports of the Studio Canal HD DVDs and very rough looking.
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:06 PM   #12
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The UK Rambo Collection does include all four films, however, Optimum Home Entertainment does not include any of the extras for First Blood, First Blood Part II,, and Rambo III from the US release. Instead, Optimum includes on all three the same 8min interview with Sylvester Stallone. These BDs are Region A & B. Rambo (2008) is the same Sony UK BD sold by itself, so its the only Rambo film to have Dolby TrueHD audio. Most of the extras from the US release are present here except BD-Live and the digital copy disc. This BD is locked for Region B.

First Blood UK is a VC-1 video encode with DTS-HD Master Audio English 5.1. The US BD is an AVC MPEG-4 video encode with DTS-HD High Resolution English 6.1 English.

First Blood Part II and Rambo III US & UK both feature VC-1 video encodes with DTS-HD Master Audio English 5.1 tracks.

Rambo (2008) US & UK both have AVC MPEG-4 video encodes but the US BD has DTS-HD MA English 7.1 while the UK has Dolby TrueHD English 5.1.
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:12 PM   #13
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Um, no. It's sh!t and has virtually no extras on the 1st three films. Ports of the Studio Canal HD DVDs and very rough looking.
Personally I am not one who cares about extras, so it doesn't bother me.
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Old 04-09-2009, 02:46 AM   #14
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The UK Rambo Collection does include all four films, however, Optimum Home Entertainment does not include any of the extras for First Blood, First Blood Part II,, and Rambo III from the US release. Instead, Optimum includes on all three the same 8min interview with Sylvester Stallone. These BDs are Region A & B. Rambo (2008) is the same Sony UK BD sold by itself, so its the only Rambo film to have Dolby TrueHD audio. Most of the extras from the US release are present here except BD-Live and the digital copy disc. This BD is locked for Region B.

First Blood UK is a VC-1 video encode with DTS-HD Master Audio English 5.1. The US BD is an AVC MPEG-4 video encode with DTS-HD High Resolution English 6.1 English.

First Blood Part II and Rambo III US & UK both feature VC-1 video encodes with DTS-HD Master Audio English 5.1 tracks.

Rambo (2008) US & UK both have AVC MPEG-4 video encodes but the US BD has DTS-HD MA English 7.1 while the UK has Dolby TrueHD English 5.1.
So, for every UK-version you mention in the comparisons you mean the one in the box I found?
And of course then for the US-versions it would mean the 3-pack...

Too bad about the extras too, these films are júst some I'd like to see more about.
I guess I might just go for the "3-pack" and get a nice version of 'Rambo' separately before the 5th.


By the way, which video-coding do you want, VC-1 or AVC MPEG-4?
I do not know all the differences yet, but my guess is AVC MPEG-4...
Or do the qualities just "depend"?

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Sorry if there is already a thread on the exact same thing, didn't see one:


But I saw a 'Rambo'-box with the 4 films in it.
Now I was wondering, would those be like the same discs or transfers as any other BD-release?
Such as the box with the first 3 films or the separate releases.

So basically, how can they be compared to the ones rated on this website?
Because I do not see the same box, unless I overlooked it.
Which is strange, because I thought this site would have all of them.
Especially when already having so many other releases of 'Rambo'-films on here.


Anyway, is this specific box any good and should I get it?
On the other hand, I also saw there will be a 5th one out.
So maybe I might get the box with the first 3 and the "modern" ones together later?
Then again, there just might even be a 6th later on, so it could be a long wait to get 3 by 3.
Unfortunately I missed 'Rambo' at the cinema, so I couldn't watch it before the 5th if I'd have to wait to get it. :\
It only comes with the first 3. The first one is sold separately.
It is the same as the ones released. The only difference is that all 3 Blu-Ray boxes with the discs are inside of it. Sliding case.
It's an awesome box set to have.
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Old 04-09-2009, 03:50 AM   #16
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So, for every UK-version you mention in the comparisons you mean the one in the box I found?
Yes. Its the only box available with all four movies.
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You should also take into consideration that Stallone plans on releasing a Director's cut of the fourth film. I'd have bought it by now had I not known that.
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You should also take into consideration that Stallone plans on releasing a Director's cut of the fourth film. I'd have bought it by now had I not known that.
That's cool, I think I'll definitely wait for another release then.
Especially since the "4-pack" is apparently not as full as the "3-pack".
I'm not sure about the "3-pack" though, but it seems a nice one.

But as for the Director's Cut, I guess he would make it worth while doing it himself right?
I mean, making it significantly longer and some actual significant material, I would think.

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I saw mention of Rambo Director's Cut, does anyone know how far along Stallone is with it?

Edit: Rambo - The Ultimate Blu-Ray Collection is £17.98 from Amazon instead of £69.99... just for those interested in buying it

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