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Old 04-14-2009, 12:22 AM   #1
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It has probably been asked before but I am a huge Trek fan. I would like to know if the TNG films will be released on blu. If so, any idea as to when? Also I know it's early but any rumors on the release date of 11 on blu?
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:31 AM   #2
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It has probably been asked before but I am a huge Trek fan. I would like to know if the TNG films will be released on blu. If so, any idea as to when? Also I know it's early but any rumors on the release date of 11 on blu?
Actually I think you are the first to ask...........................No. No announcements yet. Just hit the search button, or the release date, or ....
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:35 AM   #3
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I'd enjoy First Contact on BD. Gotta be a release date on these sometime.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:43 AM   #4
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Rumor is that they will come later this year.
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:30 AM   #5
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Rumor is that they will come later this year.
I also heard the same thing. Along with TOS seasons 2 & 3.
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:58 AM   #6
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Well there was the announcements from ZonaDVD Spain...
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:14 PM   #7
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I'd enjoy First Contact on BD. Gotta be a release date on these sometime.
Me too. That one is my favorite. Generations was decent. The other two.. and especially the last one..
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I hope they will not be the bare bone releases like the original 6 movies coming up in May, otherwise I am waiting for the other releases
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:27 PM   #9
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It's probably a late-October or early November release for Trek. The buzz has been that the TNG movie set and the second season of TOS will be released at the same time as New Trek on DVD/Blu.
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:41 PM   #10
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I must be alone in enjoying Nemesis. Goofball vehicle-cliff-jump-into-the-shuttle scene besides, I had a great time.
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I must be alone in enjoying Nemesis. Goofball vehicle-cliff-jump-into-the-shuttle scene besides, I had a great time.
Worst way to end a franchise ever. What a dreadful way to see my favorite Trek characters amble off into the sunset.

Still wish I could see the much fabled directors cut of First Contact.

I'm actually one of the only fans of Insurrection. That would have been a better way to say goodbye, Picard remaining with Anij.
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Worst way to end a franchise ever. What a dreadful way to see my favorite Trek characters amble off into the sunset.

Still wish I could see the much fabled directors cut of First Contact.

I'm actually one of the only fans of Insurrection. That would have been a better way to say goodbye, Picard remaining with Anij.
There is no Directors Cut of First Contact. I googled it and nothing of value came up.
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Does anyone know that if/when NG comes out on blu....is it supposed to be like TOS where they add some CG to make it look a bit better?

Better in the eyes of the beholder that is.
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Does anyone know that if/when NG comes out on blu....is it supposed to be like TOS where they add some CG to make it look a bit better?
The original editing and the effects shots for TNG were done in 480i video. You would have to re-edit every episode and redo every effects shot to make it worth doing a Blu-ray release of the series.
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Does anyone know that if/when NG comes out on blu....is it supposed to be like TOS where they add some CG to make it look a bit better?

Better in the eyes of the beholder that is.
I am sure someone else would be able to explain this better then I will but in short :

Next Gen was shot of film but the special effect were done on video. Now in order to get this on BD they would need to redo or find all of the video tape shot of the FX and re-mastered them. I think it would be either very expensive or not possible if the video masters are no longer available.
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The original editing and the effects shots for TNG were done in 480i video. You would have to re-edit every episode and redo every effects shot to make it worth doing a Blu-ray release of the series.
You beat me too it
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Pardon my ignorance....but why was the OS able to get 're-done'?
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Pardon my ignorance....but why was the OS able to get 're-done'?
Again I am sure someone else will be able to explain it better but I think the old series was all done on film, even the FX shots
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Pardon my ignorance....but why was the OS able to get 're-done'?
My guess would be because OS was shot all on film, whereas as previously stated NG was mix of film/video. Film has a very hi-res that can be re-scanned for higher quality, but if the special effects were rendered @ 480i then that's all they have.

Now if there was an easy way to re-render all the special effects @ 1080p, then it'd be a little easier, assuming all the EDLs from the original episodes are archived somewhere. If they had to re-generate all the special effects from scratch, then that wouldn't be worth the time/effort. Although it'd be nice to have some not so cheesy and poor effects in the first season...
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Again I am sure someone else will be able to explain it better but I think the old series was all done on film, even the FX shots
Correct, I forgot to mention that.

All the "FX" shots from the OS would have been shot on film — no computer-generated FX back then. Although I'm sure some of the FX in NG were shot on film with miniatures, etc., a large portion of the exterior space shots would all have been done @ 480i.

Another problem would be all the shots of live-action mixed with FX, such as Picard's ready room, etc. where stars are replaced over green/blue screen from the original film.
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