Kings

[WyldeMan45]

Who else out there is really digging the new NBC show Kings? I am a big Ian McShane fan ever since Deadwood, and I must say I am intrigued as to how this show will play out.

[iamsparticus9]

I have enjoyed the first 2 episodes very much. I like the premise of a old bible story in a modern setting. I wish more studios would look at the bible for movie ideas it is full of stories that could make awesome movies if done right.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by iamsparticus9

I have enjoyed the first 2 episodes very much. I like the premise of a old bible story in a modern setting. I wish more studios would look at the bible for movie ideas it is full of stories that could make awesome movies if done right.

I'm an Atheist myself, so I am not familiar with biblical stories, beside the David and Goliath premise, I get that. But as for everything else, it's a fresh idea to me lol. I am just curious/intrigued about the direction the show is heading.

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by iamsparticus9

I have enjoyed the first 2 episodes very much. I like the premise of a old bible story in a modern setting. I wish more studios would look at the bible for movie ideas it is full of stories that could make awesome movies if done right.

I have not seen the show, but it has looked interesting. What biblical story is it based off of?

[Tanv54]

I'm currently taking a Jewish class and i became interested in this show after finding out what it was about. Haven't had time to c it tho. D/l ed the pilot tho so i'll be checkin it out real soon. Also, this show is based on Saul and David around the 10th Century B.C.E. i only know the because i just wrote a paper on that last week.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by Tanv54

I'm currently taking a Jewish class and i became interested in this show after finding out what it was about. Haven't had time to c it tho. D/l ed the pilot tho so i'll be checkin it out real soon. Also, this show is based on Saul and David around the 10th Century B.C.E. i only know the because i just wrote a paper on that last week.

I really like that it's a modern society in America ruled by a King instead of a president. The idea of a society and one ruler over a kingdom in this day and age is crazy. I also like that the wars are fought on our home turf not thousands of miles away, really rounds out the story nicely. I hope this show lasts, just give us one really good full season atleast!

Kings is a television drama series airing on NBC and Citytv, based on the Biblical story of King David in a kingdom that resembles present-day United States. Although advance showings received mostly positive critical reviews,[1] the March 15 premiere placed 4th in network television ratings for that evening, with 6.47 million viewers (1.6 rating / 4 share in the 18-49 demographic).

Characters

Christopher Egan as David Shepherd, a counterpart to the Biblical David. [3][4] David is an idealistic young soldier who finds himself in the unfamiliar world of court intrigue.

Ian McShane as King Silas Benjamin, a counterpart to the biblical King Saul.[3][4] Silas has united the kingdom of Gilboa and built its capital city, Shiloh, but now fears that God has forsaken him.

Susanna Thompson as Queen Rose Benjamin, wife to King Silas. The Queen claims to abhor politics, but manipulates court life from behind the scenes.

Allison Miller as Princess Michelle Benjamin, a counterpart to the biblical Michal.[4] Silas' daughter and crusader for improving the kingdom's health care system, Michelle finds herself drawn towards David.

Sebastian Stan as Prince Jack Benjamin, a counterpart to the biblical Jonathan.[4][5] Jack is Silas's ambitious and frustrated son, who initially sees David as a rival at court. SPOILER - HIGHLIGHT! Jack plays the role of a dissolute, womanizing rake in front of the kingdom's press, but is secretly homosexual. The king is aware that Jack is gay, and has challenged him to restrain his desires if he wishes to become king.

Eamonn Walker as Rev. Ephram Samuels, a counterpart to the biblical prophet Samuel.[4][6] Reverend Samuels was instrumental in Silas' rise to power, but has recently withdrawn his support from the King (and claims that God has done the same).

Dylan Baker as William Cross, industrialist and brother to Queen Rose. William financed Silas' Royal Treasury, but withdrew his funds when, contrary to his wishes, Silas sought an end to the war with neighboring Gath.

Wes Studi as General Linus Abner, the head of Gilboa's military. Abner shares a name and military position with the Biblical Abner.

Sarita Choudhury as Helen, King Silas' mistress and mother of his illegitimate son.


REALLY TROUBLING NEWS:

The March 15th, 2009 NBC premiere of Kings "was the lowest-rated program between 8 and 11 p.m. on a major broadcast network", garnering a 1.6 rating/4 share, below ABC, CBS, and Fox.[2] This was significantly lower than the ratings for NBC's programming on the previous Sunday, a Saturday Night Live clip show and a segment of Celebrity Apprentice.[21] Mediaweek magazine noted that "one year earlier in this block, the second half of a two-hour edition of Dateline and a repeat of Law & Order was considerably stronger at an average 6.3/10 in the overnights."[29] TV.com speculated that NBC underpromoted the show causing the lackluster pilot episode rating.[30] However, Television Week described (in detailed interviews with NBC executives) an innovative three-phase marketing push on behalf of Kings, and stated that NBC was "going out of its way since November to market Kings to so-called cultural tastemakers, hoping they’ll help spread the word to the masses."[31]

Due to the unexpectedly rocky start, several media commentators have speculated that Kings will be canceled[32] or have the already-filmed episodes "burned off" on another night, such as Saturday.[33] NBC Entertainment co-chairman Ben Silverman was optimistic about the series' prospects:

I’m hoping because intent [to view] went up and awareness went up after it aired, clearly people responded to it, and it grew over its two hours. That gives me some hope. It's just hard to launch things that are not obvious. We may get nailed for it, but I'm proud of the show, and we need to keep taking chances like that.[34]

However, commentators pointed out that Silverman's remarks about the audience growth were "misleading" [35] and noted that the show cost "$10 million [for] Sunday's two-hour debut and is [costing] another $4 million per episode, an extravagant sum for any show and especially so given the program drew only 6 million viewers overall" [36].

The first hour-long episode of the series was broadcast on March 22nd, 2009, and endured further degradation in the ratings (1.3 rating /3 share), "down another 19% in the 18-49 demo"[37] and "running a distant fourth among the [four] broadcast net[work]s"

[Pirate King]

I have watched the first two episodes and have found the show to be entertaining. I do hope that it finishes its run.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by Pirate King

I have watched the first two episodes and have found the show to be entertaining. I do hope that it finishes its run.

After reading what I posted before you, It sure doesn't look that way, $10m for the pilot and $4m per episode, when almost nobody is watching!! This show is going to be canned in 2 weeks, and have the last 4 burned off during summer i guess........................this sucks, people need to stop watching cop shows every night and try something different for once!

[Pirate King]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

After reading what I posted before you, It sure doesn't look that way, $10m for the pilot and $4m per episode, when almost nobody is watching!! This show is going to be canned in 2 weeks, and have the last 4 burned off during summer i guess........................this sucks, people need to stop watching cop shows every night and try something different for once!

+1

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by Pirate King

+1

Not only is that new cop show South Land premiering in a week, but I just read Scott Caan will be starring in Cop House..............this is just retarded.

[DealsR4theDevil]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

After reading what I posted before you, It sure doesn't look that way, $10m for the pilot and $4m per episode, when almost nobody is watching!! This show is going to be canned in 2 weeks, and have the last 4 burned off during summer i guess........................this sucks, people need to stop watching cop shows every night and try something different for once!

I sort of had a feeling it wasnt gonna last when I first heard about it. It's a good show, but Sunday really isnt a good timeslot for any shows other than simpsons/family guy/futurama/american dad/king of the hill type of shows, somehow those became almost "traditional" sunday night shows and they are what Kings has to compete with.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by DealsR4theDevil

I sort of had a feeling it wasnt gonna last when I first heard about it. It's a good show, but Sunday really isnt a good timeslot for any shows other than simpsons/family guy/futurama/american dad/king of the hill type of shows, somehow those became almost "traditional" sunday night shows and they are what Kings has to compete with.

I think The Unit and Cold Case and Desperate Housewives have always had good sunday night ratings, at least I think I remember reading they did. I'll have to look into numbers for those.

[Dark Steel]

I like the show a lot. But to agree with you, when the previews said "Coming Sundays", I thought to myself any night but that. Maybe NBC figured they could get more of the church-going crowd to watch on Sunday. Who knows.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by Dark Steel

I like the show a lot. But to agree with you, when the previews said "Coming Sundays", I thought to myself any night but that. Maybe NBC figured they could get more of the church-going crowd to watch on Sunday. Who knows.

Haha church going crowd, I think it's more that every night the line-up is already filled up except Sundays. I can't really think of any openings, except that they are giving that damned new South Land (YIPPY SKIPPY) the Thursday night primetime slot that ER has held for 15 years. Why wouldn't they put Kings on that slot?? That is guaranteed major ratings, but come on another cop show, just what we need starring that runt from the OC? Not worthy! HE'S NOT WORTHY

[Riff Magnum]

Very good show and like you guys, i hope it doesn't get canceled. Ian McShane is the man and needs to be cast in more movies/shows. Long live Al Swearingen.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

Very good show and like you guys, i hope it doesn't get canceled. Ian McShane is the man and needs to be cast in more movies/shows. Long live Al Swearingen.

"Wu Swedgin San Francisco C*** Sucka!"

[Riff Magnum]

LOL!! God, i love it so much. I bet i've seen every episode at least a dozen times. It at least needs to come out on blu if they're not gonna wrap it up. How could you not have closure with such a great show?
The monologues where it's just Al talking out loud while he's getting his weiner worked on are among the greatest scenes in the history of cinema.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

LOL!! God, i love it so much. I bet i've seen every episode at least a dozen times. It at least needs to come out on blu if they're not gonna wrap it up. How could you not have closure with such a great show?
The monologues where it's just Al talking out loud while he's getting his weiner worked on are among the greatest scenes in the history of cinema.

Yeah that Swearengin was one great guy haha. I actually missed the final 3 episodes and have been waiting and waiting for blu, but if it does come out they will make it like the Sopranos and charge $90 a season for half as many episodes and I call BULL S***!

[rondanto]

Really a great show. Saw the first episode when aired and the second online. Ready for tonight's episode. Sunday really is not a good night for this. I also think Thursday would be better .Anyway what has all this to do with blu ray?

[ngkf7]

I've enjoyed the show so far and am looking forward to tonight's. Too bad I doubt this show will last through all 14 scheduled episodes. Definitely not the most ideal time slot though.