PS3 60 gig DD+???? - Blu-ray Forum

juiced93 · 04-26-2009, 03:18 AM

I have a 60 gig PS3. This site does not have the 60 gig PS3 listed in the players section. Just the 40, and 80 gig. Under the specs for those two models, it says the they both support DD+. Is this true for just those two models, or should my 60 gig support it as well? I know its not that big of a deal, but the only disc I have that has DD+ is U-571 for french and spanish. When I select the DD+ tracks, the PS3 just reads it as dolby digital. So, does the PS3 support DD+ or not? I would really like any info I can get on this subject. Thanks.

Sonny · 04-26-2009, 03:28 AM

It should be supported? I have hundreds & hundreds & Hundreds & hundreds of BD's and not one has DD+. I guess some Euro BDs do huh? Since I have never seen DD+ pop up on my Onkyo or anything else I really don't know... If the 40gb & 80gb can do it then the 60gb can to. Your just missing something?? Can u flip between DD & DD+?

Leopold BUTTERS · 04-26-2009, 03:35 AM

Yes your 60GB can support it, there is no difference between the SKUs besides the ability to play PS2 games and the number of USB ports.

FilmmakingFiasco · 04-26-2009, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Leopold BUTTERS

Yes your 60GB can support it, there is no difference between the SKUs besides the ability to play PS2 games and the number of USB ports.

And SACD

FilmmakingFiasco · 04-26-2009, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by juiced93

I have a 60 gig PS3. This site does not have the 60 gig PS3 listed in the players section. Just the 40, and 80 gig. Under the specs for those two models, it says the they both support DD+. Is this true for just those two models, or should my 60 gig support it as well? I know its not that big of a deal, but the only disc I have that has DD+ is U-571 for french and spanish. When I select the DD+ tracks, the PS3 just reads it as dolby digital. So, does the PS3 support DD+ or not? I would really like any info I can get on this subject. Thanks.

I think DD + is just a higher bitrate, not a different format.

funnymanbing · 04-26-2009, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Leopold BUTTERS

Yes your 60GB can support it, there is no difference between the SKUs besides the ability to play PS2 games and the number of USB ports.

And memory card slots.

Leopold BUTTERS · 04-26-2009, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by funnymanbing

And memory card slots.

oh yeah, i forgot about those lol.

juiced93 · 04-26-2009, 04:57 AM

I do not ever expect to see it light up on my onkyo either, do to the PS3's bitstream short comings. I also know that it is a seperate format that was created to help with the lack of space on HD-DVD and that the bitrate can go as 1.5 meg a sec. I was just wondering if anyone has seen DD+ show up on the PS3's info screen at the top right under sound format. Or if it just shows up as DD with a differnt bitrate other than 448, or 640. Thanks.

Ray O. Blu · 04-26-2009, 05:29 AM

I have an 80G PS3 and I just tried U-571 using the French and Spanish DD+ audio. In the info in the upper right corner they both indicated just Dolby Digital at 384kbps. No '+' was shown.

ryoohki · 04-26-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray O. Blu

I have an 80G PS3 and I just tried U-571 using the French and Spanish DD+ audio. In the info in the upper right corner they both indicated just Dolby Digital at 384kbps. No '+' was shown.

Most of the time it's because it's a HD DVD port and the design people made a mistake.

384 is DVD DD Bitrate (448 is one also).

juiced93 · 04-26-2009, 05:06 PM

Thanks for confirming the info. I ordered the trueHD Blu-ray demo, and it has some scences that are in DD+ 5.1 and 7.1. Guess I'll have to wait untill it gets here to see if the PS3 will read it in DD+, or DD. This is by no means a big deal, I just want to know if the PS3 supports DD+ or not. And i also want to know if its supported through PCM or bitstream.

WriteSimply · 04-26-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by juiced93

And i also want to know if its supported through PCM or bitstream.

Bitstream of lossless audio is not supported. Don't know if DD+ can be bitstreamed through optical but I'm guessing not.

fuad

un4gvn94538 · 04-26-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WriteSimply

Bitstream of lossless audio is not supported. Don't know if DD+ can be bitstreamed through optical but I'm guessing not.

fuad

if dd+ can contain up to 7.1 discrete channels, i would say no.

CRMA · 04-26-2009, 05:29 PM

I am not sure if you mentioned this or not but change your settings from Bitstream to Linear PCM. I am not sure what Onkyo receiver you have but if you want HD sound you will need to make sure it is set accordingly.

juiced93 · 04-27-2009, 01:24 AM

It is an onkyo tx-sr605. And yes, I have always had it set to LPCM for ths lossless sounds. I'm running it through HDMI 1.3 as well.

HOME THEATRE ADDICT! · 04-27-2009, 02:02 AM

I have over 150 blus and Ive yet to see one encoded with DD+. I do have some HD-DVDs that have that, but since that player doesnt bitstream Ill never see it light up on my receiver!

BTBuck1 · 04-27-2009, 02:04 AM

DD+ isnt bitstreamed on HDDUD so i'd doubt it would on BD since BD's is capable of higher bit-rate.

PeterTHX · 04-27-2009, 02:45 AM

DD+ is supported on the PS3, all models.
Output has to be set to PCM.

In the setup menu for the PS3, if you click "About" you'll see the logo at the end.

There are a couple discs out there. BD DD+ is only for 7.1 mixes.

There are BD players that can bitstream it, just as they do TrueHD and DTS-HD High Resolution and DTS-HD Master Audio.

HD-DVD had to use DD+ to get over the DVD 448kbps limit. Since DD can be 640kbps on BD and there's no audible advantage to the DD+ 1536kbps rate HD DVD used there was no reason to include it in the BD optional spec.

juiced93 · 04-27-2009, 03:08 AM

Thank you peterTHX, and everyone else. That last post cleared up everything that I set out to learn from this post.

BTBuck1 · 04-29-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

DD+ is supported on the PS3, all models.
Output has to be set to PCM.

In the setup menu for the PS3, if you click "About" you'll see the logo at the end.

There are a couple discs out there. BD DD+ is only for 7.1 mixes.

There are BD players that can bitstream it, just as they do TrueHD and DTS-HD High Resolution and DTS-HD Master Audio.

HD-DVD had to use DD+ to get over the DVD 448kbps limit. Since DD can be 640kbps on BD and there's no audible advantage to the DD+ 1536kbps rate HD DVD used there was no reason to include it in the BD optional spec.

Uhh, says who?

04-26-2009, 03:18 AM	#1
juiced93 Junior Member Member since:Apr 2008	PS3 60 gig DD+???? I have a 60 gig PS3. This site does not have the 60 gig PS3 listed in the players section. Just the 40, and 80 gig. Under the specs for those two models, it says the they both support DD+. Is this true for just those two models, or should my 60 gig support it as well? I know its not that big of a deal, but the only disc I have that has DD+ is U-571 for french and spanish. When I select the DD+ tracks, the PS3 just reads it as dolby digital. So, does the PS3 support DD+ or not? I would really like any info I can get on this subject. Thanks.

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04-26-2009, 03:28 AM	#2
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	It should be supported? I have hundreds & hundreds & Hundreds & hundreds of BD's and not one has DD+. I guess some Euro BDs do huh? Since I have never seen DD+ pop up on my Onkyo or anything else I really don't know... If the 40gb & 80gb can do it then the 60gb can to. Your just missing something?? Can u flip between DD & DD+?

04-26-2009, 03:35 AM	#3
Leopold BUTTERS Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:AB,Canada Blu-ray collection:93 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:1	Yes your 60GB can support it, there is no difference between the SKUs besides the ability to play PS2 games and the number of USB ports.

04-26-2009, 04:57 AM	#8
juiced93 Junior Member Member since:Apr 2008	I do not ever expect to see it light up on my onkyo either, do to the PS3's bitstream short comings. I also know that it is a seperate format that was created to help with the lack of space on HD-DVD and that the bitrate can go as 1.5 meg a sec. I was just wondering if anyone has seen DD+ show up on the PS3's info screen at the top right under sound format. Or if it just shows up as DD with a differnt bitrate other than 448, or 640. Thanks.

04-26-2009, 05:29 AM	#9
Ray O. Blu Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Sep 2008 Location:The £ßÇ 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:50 Trading Score:6	I have an 80G PS3 and I just tried U-571 using the French and Spanish DD+ audio. In the info in the upper right corner they both indicated just Dolby Digital at 384kbps. No '+' was shown.

04-26-2009, 05:06 PM	#11
juiced93 Junior Member Member since:Apr 2008	Thanks for confirming the info. I ordered the trueHD Blu-ray demo, and it has some scences that are in DD+ 5.1 and 7.1. Guess I'll have to wait untill it gets here to see if the PS3 will read it in DD+, or DD. This is by no means a big deal, I just want to know if the PS3 supports DD+ or not. And i also want to know if its supported through PCM or bitstream.

04-26-2009, 05:29 PM	#14
CRMA Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Home Theater Gallery:22 Blu-ray collection:156 Blu-ray reviews: 46 Trading Score:1	I am not sure if you mentioned this or not but change your settings from Bitstream to Linear PCM. I am not sure what Onkyo receiver you have but if you want HD sound you will need to make sure it is set accordingly.

04-27-2009, 01:24 AM	#15
juiced93 Junior Member Member since:Apr 2008	It is an onkyo tx-sr605. And yes, I have always had it set to LPCM for ths lossless sounds. I'm running it through HDMI 1.3 as well.

04-27-2009, 02:02 AM	#16
HOME THEATRE ADDICT! Expert Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Ohio	I have over 150 blus and Ive yet to see one encoded with DD+. I do have some HD-DVDs that have that, but since that player doesnt bitstream Ill never see it light up on my receiver!

04-27-2009, 02:04 AM	#17
BTBuck1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Oceanside, CA. Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:1	DD+ isnt bitstreamed on HDDUD so i'd doubt it would on BD since BD's is capable of higher bit-rate.

04-27-2009, 02:45 AM	#18
PeterTHX Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray collection:563 Trading Score:14	DD+ is supported on the PS3, all models. Output has to be set to PCM. In the setup menu for the PS3, if you click "About" you'll see the logo at the end. There are a couple discs out there. BD DD+ is only for 7.1 mixes. There are BD players that can bitstream it, just as they do TrueHD and DTS-HD High Resolution and DTS-HD Master Audio. HD-DVD had to use DD+ to get over the DVD 448kbps limit. Since DD can be 640kbps on BD and there's no audible advantage to the DD+ 1536kbps rate HD DVD used there was no reason to include it in the BD optional spec.

04-27-2009, 03:08 AM	#19
juiced93 Junior Member Member since:Apr 2008	Thank you peterTHX, and everyone else. That last post cleared up everything that I set out to learn from this post.

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