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Old 10-25-2009, 10:55 PM   #1
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Default Final Destination - Snowy PQ

Forgive me as I am a newb and have utilized the search as best as I could, but am not having any luck finding information.

My question,

I have noticed that PQ is this movie is sub par. very fuzzy picture, noticeable on peoples faces and walls for example. Another example at 22 min into the movie the group is detained by security and is in an interrogation room. The walls are extremely fuzzy. I have noticed this on my cheap magnavox player and my ps3, using supposedly different quality HDMI cables as well as trying it on two different 1080p Sceptre tvs. 40inch and 46inch respectively. is this just because is not naqtive 1080p. I too have noticed this on other flicks as well, but not as bad as this one.

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Old 10-25-2009, 10:59 PM   #2
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If you're referring to film grain, that's more than likely attached to the film source, and not a fault of the transfer. I thought the movie was kind of soft, throughout. Not completely terrible, but not impressive either.
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:05 PM   #3
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If you're referring to film grain, that's more than likely attached to the film source, and not a fault of the transfer. I thought the movie was kind of soft, throughout. Not completely terrible, but not impressive either.
Oh I see. I was wondering what exactly this grain was, but now I understand.
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Old 10-26-2009, 12:19 AM   #5
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:14 AM   #6
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Welcome!
Check this thread from the Newbie Discussion section.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=93817
"WHY DO SOME BLU-RAYS LOOK BETTER THAN OTHERS: AND WHY ARE SOME GRAINY?

Many factors come into play as to why some films look better than others on Blu-ray. The original source material (the film) as well as the effort put forth in transferring the information to Blu-ray is very important, as is the lighting and direction when the material was shot.

Grain is a widely debated topic. Grain is inherit to film since film is created through a chemical process using silver halide. Wikipedia has a more "technical" description of what it is...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_grain

In some cases Grain is added by the director in order to achieve a desired effect. A perfect example of this is in the movie "300" where heavy amounts of grain were added to the film. Only films shot digitally will be totally devoid of grain.

Where the debate comes in, is the amount of grain that is perceived as "good" or "bad". Many films are "scrubbed" and grain is removed to give the film a "cleaner" or "crisper" look. By removing grain entirely detail is lost.... so grain is often simply "reduced" When you see Grain that you didn't see on the DVD, it's not because the grain wasn't there, it's due to the fact that the increased resolution is showing more detail, which includes the subtle and intricate presence of grain, that standard definition resolution didn't show. There is certainly a great difference between film grain, and simply blurry lines and lack of detail from standard definition."

Personally I prefer grain to be preserved and love the filmic "feel" it has.
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:10 AM   #7
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^ thank you for the informative post.
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You're welcome
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=114717
This is also another thread from here... it's alot o' fun!
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Only films shot digitally will be totally devoid of grain.
But those have digital noise in them, which is also enhanced during low lighting situations.
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But those have digital noise in them, which is also enhanced during low lighting situations.
True..
But that's from Betamans faq from the newbie section.
I don't want to take credit for it!
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:26 PM   #12
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I didn't think the PQ was bad on this BD and my display isn't the greatest.
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