Bye-Bye Disk based Movies ???

[Sharpie]

Link..

How popular do you guys/gals think this will be? Is it the future? Or will we see a generation of players that have PCMCIA/SD/Flash media ports to accommmodate both media?

As flash media volumes get bigger and bigger with technological advances, this seems very possible !!

...just curious

[jamclaur]

it'd be fine with me if they put them on CF cards. My PS3 takes CF cards and they're a lot harder to break than a disc...

[Kartoon]

Digital content is the future yes but not like that.

What's the point of going to a store and buying a flash drive instead of a disk? Answer: there isn't one.

[Sharpie]

Pricing is everything...I see room for both. As we, as a society, become more and more mobile it seems as as though this method of an entertainment delivery system could capture a large market share.

Me...I'm old fashioned, I like buying the disk.

[MCT]

Originally Posted by Sharpie

Me...I'm old fashioned, I like buying the disk.

same. And there will always be millions just like us. Discs aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

at least, I hope not.

[Yautja]

Originally Posted by MCT

same. And there will always be millions just like us. Discs aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

at least, I hope not.

Even if they did it happen for a very long while

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Kartoon

Digital content is the future yes but not like that.

Digital content is the present and the past as well. Blu-ray is digital, DVD is/was digital, laserdisc was digital.

Flash drives are still volatile and expensive to produce though. I doubt studios would get behind a technology that would cost more to physically produce and would offer people the ability to play the digital content directly on their TV without a set-top player.

Until they are able to make a proprietary solid-state memory format that would require a player device and also be able to produce these cards cheaply and efficiently, it won't happen as a primary format. I mean, a dual layer BD probably costs between a quarter and a dollar to physically replicate. How much do you think a similar capacity solid-state drive costs? And as price of production drops on solid-state memory drops, so too will optical discs. And the problem with solid-state memory is that once technology advances beyond a point, it's no longer effective to produce "cheap" solid-state memory in those "low" capacities. So while a 50 GB flash drive might cost a pretty penny today, in the future, they might have 50 TB drives for a similar price. So, logically a 50 GB flash drive would be cheap then too, right? No, because it wouldn't even be worth producing. Consumer electronics companies don't even make memory devices in small capacities like that.

That said, yeah, it can absolutely happen, but don't be surprised to be paying 50 bucks a pop for your movie (in other words, roughly the price for the stick itself plus quite a bit on top for the movie), and don't even be surprised if it's around DVD level in quality. Or maybe low-bitrate HD picture with lossy stereo audio. Yeah, 16 GB could handle low bitrate HD video with lossy stereo, and those are priced between 30 and 40 bucks.

Personally, I don't care about disc or whatever. As long as there is a physical form that is reasonably safe from damage, I'm good. I like CDs, I like NES cartridges, I like all that. I could even get on board a USB (3.0) based platform if it offered greater quality or performance than Blu-ray. Hint hint, USB 3.0 would be able to do 4K lossless video with full stereoscopic 3D and lossless audio if the drive has enough capacity (which would cost a couple hundred bucks today probably). Blu-ray's bandwidth is nowhere near wide enough for that level of performance, no matter how many layers they find themselves able to pile on a single disc.

[Ferris]

Agreed with Afrobean.

This hype does seem to come up 2-3 times per year. Until we see a paradigm shift in consumer habits, it'll be some time before discs go away.

[atomik kinder]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Digital content is the present and the past as well. Blu-ray is digital, DVD is/was digital, laserdisc was digital.

Flash drives are still volatile and expensive to produce though. I doubt studios would get behind a technology that would cost more to physically produce and would offer people the ability to play the digital content directly on their TV without a set-top player.

Until they are able to make a proprietary solid-state memory format that would require a player device and also be able to produce these cards cheaply and efficiently, it won't happen as a primary format. I mean, a dual layer BD probably costs between a quarter and a dollar to physically replicate. How much do you think a similar capacity solid-state drive costs? And as price of production drops on solid-state memory drops, so too will optical discs. And the problem with solid-state memory is that once technology advances beyond a point, it's no longer effective to produce "cheap" solid-state memory in those "low" capacities. So while a 50 GB flash drive might cost a pretty penny today, in the future, they might have 50 TB drives for a similar price. So, logically a 50 GB flash drive would be cheap then too, right? No, because it wouldn't even be worth producing. Consumer electronics companies don't even make memory devices in small capacities like that.

That said, yeah, it can absolutely happen, but don't be surprised to be paying 50 bucks a pop for your movie (in other words, roughly the price for the stick itself plus quite a bit on top for the movie), and don't even be surprised if it's around DVD level in quality. Or maybe low-bitrate HD picture with lossy stereo audio. Yeah, 16 GB could handle low bitrate HD video with lossy stereo, and those are priced between 30 and 40 bucks.

Personally, I don't care about disc or whatever. As long as there is a physical form that is reasonably safe from damage, I'm good. I like CDs, I like NES cartridges, I like all that. I could even get on board a USB (3.0) based platform if it offered greater quality or performance than Blu-ray. Hint hint, USB 3.0 would be able to do 4K lossless video with full stereoscopic 3D and lossless audio if the drive has enough capacity (which would cost a couple hundred bucks today probably). Blu-ray's bandwidth is nowhere near wide enough for that level of performance, no matter how many layers they find themselves able to pile on a single disc.

That is not technically correct. Laserdisc was an analog video format and did have analog audio for a long time. But I do agree that Digital has been around a long time. I can see using streaming or On Demand for rentals, just not something that I want to own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laserdisc

The standard home video laserdisc is 30 cm (11.81 inches) in diameter and made up of two single-sided aluminum discs layered in plastic. Although appearing similar to compact discs or DVDs, Laserdiscs use analog video stored in the composite domain with analog sound and/or some form of digital audio.

[camper]

I'd prefer something like a compac flash card or thumb drive type solid state media, as it isn't as prone to scratches or wear.

However, I don't want something the size of a compac flash card I want something the size of a CD/DVD/Blu. There comes a point when things simply get too small, I want something that is easier to spot.

Blu is perfect now b ecause its the perfect combination of capacity, cost, and quality...plus its visually familiar to the public and players easily allow for backwards compaitbility with CD's & DVDs.

It will take a whikel before the disc is replaced by flash media, and that can't happen until lower cost makes it feasible.

I still think we're a decade away from 'on demand' posing a legitimate threat to physical storage media at all.

camper

[OrlandoEastwood]

How many times is the discussion going to come up about discs being obsolete?

[toef]

Originally Posted by Ferris

Agreed with Afrobean.

This hype does seem to come up 2-3 times per year. Until we see a paradigm shift in consumer habits, it'll be some time before discs go away.

Holy crap, it's Ferris!

[Jellybeans]

Originally Posted by OrlandoEastwood

How many times is the discussion going to come up about discs being obsolete?

I was going to say that but you beat me to it....

[Ferris]

Originally Posted by toefer

Holy crap, it's Ferris!

What's up toefer! Yeah, I'm slowly returning from my hiatus.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by OrlandoEastwood

How many times is the discussion going to come up about discs being obsolete?

I guess they will be talking about it until 10 years after discs are obsolete?

[Musashi]

Oh oh, I get to link to Deci's old post again!

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=55511

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=55517

[[1080-p]]

Originally Posted by jamclaur

it'd be fine with me if they put them on CF cards. My PS3 takes CF cards and they're a lot harder to break than a disc...

compact flash cards? I don't think so
and easy to misplace