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Old 12-23-2010, 10:45 PM   #1
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Hi, im looking to find a blu-ray player that will allow me to interact with it using a touchscreen. I haven't been able to find any players that explicitly feature this, and aside from that all i've found is a program called bd-touch, which uses an i-phone as a virtual controller, which isn't what im looking for. I want to be able to press the menu buttons in the video itself. Any ideas on how i could do this?
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Old 12-25-2010, 08:50 AM   #2
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There are a few monitors which support touchscreens and laptops, too. Get yourself a computer with a BD drive and such a monitor/screen, and that's your only shot.

You're not going to find a TV that has a touch screen on it, and you're not going to find a standalone BD player that supports input from a touchscreen monitor.
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Old 12-25-2010, 01:35 PM   #3
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I've seen iPhone and iPad apps allow you to use those devices as PS3 and Sony Blu-ray player remote controls. Lots of vendors showed similar iPad uses like that at the CEDIA show back in September. They would be on the exhibitor list at CEDIA2010

http://cedia2010.mapyourshow.com/2_3...arch=category#

Is that what you are looking for? If not, then why would you want to have a touch screen connected directly on the physical front panel of a video player or display when you are using a remote control to run it anyway?

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Old 12-26-2010, 05:13 PM   #4
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I dont want a remote control because i dont want yet another thing to manage.
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:16 PM   #5
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So there are no BD players with touchscreen support? Well if not, BD is worthless, might as well just use a computer then.
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Old 12-26-2010, 09:58 PM   #6
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I guess ill take afrobeans word for it and go the computer route. Its kinda pathetic that these overpriced locked down single function computers that are bd players dont even feature a tech thats been around for two decades.
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Old 12-27-2010, 01:30 AM   #7
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I guess ill take afrobeans word for it and go the computer route. Its kinda pathetic that these overpriced locked down single function computers that are bd players dont even feature a tech thats been around for two decades.
uh what

Blu-ray is designed for watching video content like movies. When people watch movies at home, they tend to sit about 10 feet or more away from the screen. What good is a touchscreen supposed to be there?

It'd be useful for laptops and portable disc players and even desktop PC monitors, but why would you expect standalone players AND TVs to support it? Seriously. A TV. That you sit more than an arm's length away from. That you will basically never be near enough to touch. Why should a CE company waste money developing a product like that?

If there was ANY reason why a person should stand up and walk up to their TV to touch it rather than use a remote control, such a product would exist. Frankly, I like being able to sit down and scroll through the menu with a remote rather than having to get up and walk up to my TV to touch the screen to select "Play Movie".
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Old 12-27-2010, 01:53 AM   #8
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I guess ill take afrobeans word for it and go the computer route. Its kinda pathetic that these overpriced locked down single function computers that are bd players dont even feature a tech thats been around for two decades.
Go back to sleep and maybe when you wake up you'll have a more mature understanding of technology.
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Old 12-27-2010, 01:55 AM   #9
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uh what

blu-ray is designed for watching video content like movies. When people watch movies at home, they tend to sit about 10 feet or more away from the screen. What good is a touchscreen supposed to be there?

It'd be useful for laptops and portable disc players and even desktop pc monitors, but why would you expect standalone players and tvs to support it? Seriously. A tv. That you sit more than an arm's length away from. That you will basically never be near enough to touch. Why should a ce company waste money developing a product like that?

If there was any reason why a person should stand up and walk up to their tv to touch it rather than use a remote control, such a product would exist. Frankly, i like being able to sit down and scroll through the menu with a remote rather than having to get up and walk up to my tv to touch the screen to select "play movie".
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:54 PM   #10
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I guess ill take afrobeans word for it and go the computer route. Its kinda pathetic that these overpriced locked down single function computers that are bd players dont even feature a tech thats been around for two decades.
Wow. Just Wow. Wow.

If there was a consumer demand for it some manufacturer by now would have placed a touchscreen on a BD player. The fact that it has not existed for the life of Blu-ray and as far as I know in the 15 years of DVD players kinda implies there is zero consumer demand for it at all. Its not pathetic at all that manufacturers would not add cost and complexity to introduce a feature that it would seem that there is no consumer demand for. A touch screen on an AVR may reduce some complexity by replacing multiple buttons but one one a Blu-ray player panel would be useful for only a few functions. Heck some players have few or almost none buttons at all and have all functions on a remote.
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uh what

Blu-ray is designed for watching video content like movies. When people watch movies at home, they tend to sit about 10 feet or more away from the screen. What good is a touchscreen supposed to be there?

It'd be useful for laptops and portable disc players and even desktop PC monitors, but why would you expect standalone players AND TVs to support it? Seriously. A TV. That you sit more than an arm's length away from. That you will basically never be near enough to touch. Why should a CE company waste money developing a product like that?

If there was ANY reason why a person should stand up and walk up to their TV to touch it rather than use a remote control, such a product would exist. Frankly, I like being able to sit down and scroll through the menu with a remote rather than having to get up and walk up to my TV to touch the screen to select "Play Movie".
Well said.
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Old 12-27-2010, 08:39 PM   #12
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Wow, such insightful comments, i'll remember them next time im watching a blu-ray on my in-car monitor and i have to search under the seats so i can find the controller and then operate it at point blank range. Well, at least we know why businesses havent pushed anything out like this, they have your heads up their asses.
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Old 12-29-2010, 05:33 AM   #13
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Wow, such insightful comments, i'll remember them next time im watching a blu-ray on my in-car monitor and i have to search under the seats so i can find the controller and then operate it at point blank range. Well, at least we know why businesses havent pushed anything out like this, they have your heads up their asses.
I don't believe I've ever heard of an in-car Blu-ray player. There aren't even many normal portable BD players available. Give the format some time before they hammer out all the details on miniaturizing it for specialized portable use.

If/when they get around to putting out in-dash Blu-ray players, touch screens should be common on them, but I don't think they'll ever even try to support separate and/or external monitors, like one would find in the back seat of an automobile for example.

If you're EXTREMELY adamant about touch screen interfacing with a Blu-ray player, the only option right now is to use a personal computer with a touch screen, a BD drive, and Blu-ray software. I don't think there are many options for touch screen monitors or laptops available though. I'm also unsure of how touch screen monitors function; my best guess is that they'd have normal video in, but then also plug into the computer using a USB port in order to tell the CPU about where it is touched using proprietary software (which would limit compatibility).
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Wow, such insightful comments, i'll remember them next time im watching a blu-ray on my in-car monitor and i have to search under the seats so i can find the controller and then operate it at point blank range. Well, at least we know why businesses havent pushed anything out like this, they have your heads up their asses.
Not to slam you but this is the reason why there are so many car accidents. People shouldn't have any more distractions while driving it's already terrifying enough to drive with all the texters and cell phone junkies. Please don't make it scarier.
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Wow, such insightful comments
You reap what you sow. Your posts demonstrate a lack of technological understanding combined with an inflammatory sense of entitlement. You should be thankful that the responses have been remotely informative and civil.
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Old 01-10-2011, 05:52 PM   #17
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And furthermore, have you looked at any touch screen devices? They're always full of fingerprints. Who would want to constantly have to clean their TV screen? Touch screen in the car makes some sense (although as others have stated, a video monitor should only be in the back seat, not the front), but this is essentially what an iPhone (and competitors' versions) and the iPad (and the clones that are coming) do, although the Apple version of the tablet can't play Blu-ray. But aside from double-dipping issues, why does one need Blu-ray in the car? Is the monitor going to be larger than 7"?

And furthermore, aside from stop, pause, start and volume, what is it that you're going to be adjusting when watching a video in the car? And those functions already have controls. What difference is it if those controls are physical or virtual?

Where I would like to see a color bit mapped display similar to a smart phone display is on A/V receivers. It doesn't necessarily have to be touch screen, but I think these pre-defined dot LEDs on even expensive A/V receivers are old news and ill-advised, especially since many of these receivers support software updates and the LED limits what can be updated. A bit mapped display could provide a really great UI on these electronics.
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:21 PM   #18
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why does one need Blu-ray in the car?
Why does a person need DVD in the car?

What if a person owns only BDs and doesn't own any DVDs or digital copies?

It's still probably not safe to have an in-dash movie player though.
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Old 01-10-2011, 08:28 PM   #19
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Didn't I say, "aside from the double-dipping issues"? What I also meant was is that no one needs Blu-ray resolution in the car - DVD or downloads are good enough. The only reason to want BD in the car is so you don't have to buy both versions.

Personally, I feel that videos should be banned from cars even in the back seat (or that those in the back seat should have to wear headphones.) People are getting killed over these absurd distractions. One doesn't need to have a personal and comprehensive entertainment and computer center absolutely everywhere, especially when it's dangerous.
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Not to slam you but this is the reason why there are so many car accidents. People shouldn't have any more distractions while driving it's already terrifying enough to drive with all the texters and cell phone junkies. Please don't make it scarier.
Don't worry, this person must be sitting in a child seat in the back seat. Only a complete fool would be stupid enough to drive a car and watch a movie at the same time.
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