Patton 40th Anniversary Digibook May 10th 2011

[RippdBD10101]

The pre-order just became available. Never saw the film but i've been collecting all the digibooks so now would be the time to check it out!

Patton 40th Anniversary Blu-ray DigiBook

[RippdBD10101]

Oops! It's May 10th not the 5th. Sry bout that.

[benbess]

Isn't this one in need of a remaster because of DNR issues?

[EricJ]

Could be, it was one of the first movies to push the grain-vs-restoration issue.
But just as likely a repackaging to cash in on the traditional Memorial Day push.

(Best to wait for some advance review before saying "Scott, you magnificent bastard, I bought your book!" )

[42041]

The guys from The Digital Bits said that Fox was planning on re-doing the transfer in the near future. Hopefully this is that version.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by 42041

The guys from The Digital Bits said that Fox was planning on re-doing the transfer in the near future. Hopefully this is that version.

+1000

Got the DNR version REALLY cheap so I checked it out, never had seen this movie before. It's BRILLIANT but one of the WORST cases of DNR I've ever seen... I mean holy crap George C. Scott seriously looks like a WAX figure throughout the film... This movie TOTALLY needs a remaster, and I will buy it

[dougotte]

Originally Posted by 42041

The guys from The Digital Bits said that Fox was planning on re-doing the transfer in the near future. Hopefully this is that version.

Can you provide a quote or link? On the contrary, here's what he posted at The Digital Bits on 3/16/2011:

"We'd love to say that Patton and Master and Commander have been given new HD masters, but it's unlikely as these appear to be the same discs as before, just with new packaging."

Doug

[Strevlac]

Originally Posted by EricJ

Could be, it was one of the first movies to push the grain-vs-restoration issue.

What do you mean when you say "grain-vs-restoration"?

[CrashFilm13]

Originally Posted by Strevlac

What do you mean when you say "grain-vs-restoration"?

There's a long-standing debate amongst BD enthusiasts regarding whether catalog titles should leave their grain untouched or have it digitally cleaned up. The pro-grain side feels that maintaining the natural grain found in celluloid is one of many benefits of BD's superior resolution and retains the original theatrical experience. The pro-cleanup side feels that a given movie should look as clean and noiseless as possible because it is presented in an HD format. The grain is removed through processes such as digital noise reduction since grain can resemble digital video noise.

These are, of course, over-simplifications.

It's an issue that invokes a lot of exasperation from forum members because of how often, and heated, the discussion gets. When Patton was released on BD in 2008, it was ultimately seen as the one catalog BD title that really exemplified the division between collectors. The pro-grain side sees it as a complete debacle, while the pro-cleanup side sees it as one of the best restorations of a classic film. Either way, it has become the whipping boy for this very sticky issue.

I found this article by film preservation expert Robert A. Harris, via The Digital Bits, to explain the more technical aspects of film restoration (using the then new release of Patton as a case study):

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...ris062408.html

Hope this clarifies your question in a mostly unbiased way

[YodasFootPowder]

I didn't really have a problem with the original release, so it looks like I'll be passing on this.

[ungood]

Originally Posted by YodasFootPowder

I didn't really have a problem with the original release, so it looks like I'll be passing on this.

i was going to ask if you watched this movie on a 19" but after looking at your gallery, i'm pretty impressed! i guess if you don't mind the transfer, then that's all that matters.

i on the other hand, would be willing to double-dip if this is the 000000.1% chance that it turns out with a new, improved transfer (and i also dig digibooks). it probably helped that i only got Patton for $4.33 when it was part of the 3-pack with Behind Enemy Lines and Rescue Dawn, which was $13 clearance when I got it at Blockbuster

[HD Goofnut]

I'd buy this again and sell my DNR version if it is remastered with the grain intact.

[YodasFootPowder]

Originally Posted by ungood

i was going to ask if you watched this movie on a 19" but after looking at your gallery, i'm pretty impressed! i guess if you don't mind the transfer, then that's all that matters.

i on the other hand, would be willing to double-dip if this is the 000000.1% chance that it turns out with a new, improved transfer (and i also dig digibooks). it probably helped that i only got Patton for $4.33 when it was part of the 3-pack with Behind Enemy Lines and Rescue Dawn, which was $13 clearance when I got it at Blockbuster

I'll admit, I watched it over a year ago, on a 55" TV, and at this point I would probably notice DNR more than I would have then. So I might have to re-watch it.

[42041]

If it looks good now, imagine how good it will look with unfiltered 70mm detail and texture!

[Clark Kent]

We would have heard by now from somewhere if it was getting a new transfer without the DNR. Fox is just starting to re-release older titles in new packaging configurations to entice clueless consumers.

[miTfan3]

So glad I waited to buy this. Love this movie and I'll get that digibook day 1

[BluPix]

I love digibooks and would upgrade my current BD of this unforgettable film (along with another favorite of mine that Fox is repackaging in a digibook: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid) but only after reviews confirm that the transfer (on each film) is improved.

That said there are still other films in Blu-ray books from Fox that I plan to buy: The Hustler, which is on preorder; All About Eve; Master and Commander, An Affair to Remember (maybe); and The Comancheros (maybe down the line). It's nice that Fox is starting to really pump out the digibooks. I can add some of them to the one and only Fox digibook that exists in my collection: The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by BluPix

I love digibooks and would upgrade my current BD of this unforgettable film (along with another favorite of mine that Fox is repackaging in a digibook: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid) but only after reviews confirm that the transfer (on each film) is improved.

That said there are still other films in Blu-ray books from Fox that I plan to buy: The Hustler, which is on preorder; All About Eve; Master and Commander, An Affair to Remember (maybe); and The Comancheros (maybe down the line). It's nice that Fox is starting to really pump out the digibooks. I can add some of them to the one and only Fox digibook that exists in my collection: The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Honestly, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid doesn't look at all bad to me. Soft and grainy, yes, but that's how the movie was shot.

I hope that the rumors are true, and that Patton will be re-released in a correct version this time. Fox has really made a change for the best, and I'd consider them one of the best studios when catalog titles are concerned. I also hope they'll re-do The Longest Day, since that looked even worse than Patton.

[Arkadin]

digitalbits is reporting that a "new" bd of Patton IS coming later this year, but will NOT be this digibook release.
This release will still be the original dnr disaster.
well I guess this news would qualify as a perfect example of "good news, bad news".
can't wait till the "real" release later in the year.

[mfrench81]

I can confirm that the digibook release has the exact same discs as the original release. The only thing different is the packaging.