Market share blu-ray vs DVD

[g12345567]

I was wondering what the market share was for blu-ray over DVD. As as you can see dvd is still more heavily promoted and advertised over blu-ray by all the major retailers.

As whenever I brows through the weekly catalogues from various retailers, they all seem to be still heavily promoting dvd as well. Same at my local Network Video store. The dvd section is about 3 times the size of the blue-ray section. And some new releases can only be found on DVD, which I find strange.

A lot of other people have stopped buying dvd where possible. I find it strange that blu-ray new releases cost more than than the equivalent dvd of same title. Not just because you are paying to get a higher pigture quality compared to dvd. Even though I would have thought by now blu-ray would have taken a bigger market share over DVD. As you can see from the way DVD is still heavily promoted and advertised that there is still a large market for DVD sales or more roffit to be made by retailers over blu-ray?

[80sfanboy]

Originally Posted by g12345567

I was wondering what the market share was for blu-ray over DVD. As as you can see dvd is still more heavily promoted and advertised over blu-ray by all the major retailers.

As whenever I brows through the weekly catalogues from various retailers, they all seem to be still heavily promoting dvd as well. Same at my local Network Video store. The dvd section is about 3 times the size of the blue-ray section. And some new releases can only be found on DVD, which I find strange.

A lot of other people have stopped buying dvd where possible. I find it strange that blu-ray new releases cost more than than the equivalent dvd of same title. Not just because you are paying to get a higher pigture quality compared to dvd. Even though I would have thought by now blu-ray would have taken a bigger market share over DVD. As you can see from the way DVD is still heavily promoted and advertised that there is still a large market for DVD sales or more roffit to be made by retailers over blu-ray?

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[LeighF]

Yeah it's strange that DVD still seems to have a larger market share years after Blu-ray has been on the market.

[80sfanboy]

Originally Posted by LeighF

Yeah it's strange that DVD still seems to have a larger market share years after Blu-ray has been on the market.

I think it is just a lot of uneducated people. Because it is on disc it's "the same as blu-ray" to a lot of people. If the format had changed to a different media all together (like a solid state card) than people would most likely inclined to believing it has evolved

[insomniac]

Most people I talk to claim they can't see the different anyway, which is kinda sad.

[80sfanboy]

Again, uneducated on the know how. I laugh when people say they can't see the difference. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some excellent quality DVD, but nothing like an excellent quality BD. When people first see it (from my experience of "changing people minds") they go OMG it looks as if I am right there in the room. Almost as if there is no filtering done and you are merely behind a sheet of glass observing it.

It's always nice to show people

[Idiot E. Que]

People who say they can't tell the difference baffle me, and not because I'm a geeky cinema-videophile nerd boy. I had friends who said this to me, so I had a movie night. The next day two of those very same people were texting me for advice while on the hunt for a BD player at JB.

[Cocophone]

In general, about 1/2 of the public has below average IQ.

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[80sfanboy]

Originally Posted by Idiot E. Que

People who say they can't tell the difference baffle me, and not because I'm a geeky cinema-videophile nerd boy. I had friends who said this to me, so I had a movie night. The next day two of those very same people were texting me for advice while on the hunt for a BD player at JB.

1 point for the geeky cinema-videophile nerd boy, 0 points for the technologically uneducated friends

[darry]

Most people aren't actively looking for the difference, which is why they can't tell. Nothing to do with IQ.

[80sfanboy]

Originally Posted by darry

Most people aren't actively looking for the difference, which is why they can't tell. Nothing to do with IQ.

Being uneducated on 1 topic will not change ones IQ for the most part

[MacEachaidh]

Originally Posted by insomniac

Most people I talk to claim they can't see the different anyway, which is kinda sad.

In my experience, most people aren't very observant of differences anyway, either in home video or anything else. I doubt it has anything to do with intelligence, or even attitude, but is more due to whether they've had experiences in life that taught them to develop that facility or not.

As for Blu-rays, I know I didn't bother about them myself when they first came out — partly because I didn't have much opportunity to see them in action for myself, and partly because I really didn't have the money to upgrade all my still-fairly-new HT equipment on what would then have been a whim. It was only later, when I was building a replacement PC and on the spur of the moment put in a BD burner rather than a DVD one, and coupled it with a 1080p-capable display panel, that I even bought my first BD (a copy of 2001 that was on special at JB, that I bought on-spec "just in case" I ever wanted to see it in high-res). And suddenly I was in the pool, and swimming rather than just treading water.

[insomniac]

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

As for Blu-rays, I know I didn't bother about them myself when they first came out — partly because I didn't have much opportunity to see them in action for myself, and partly because I really didn't have the money to upgrade all my still-fairly-new HT equipment on what would then have been a whim. It was only later, when I was building a replacement PC and on the spur of the moment put in a BD burner rather than a DVD one, and coupled it with a 1080p-capable display panel, that I even bought my first BD (a copy of 2001 that was on special at JB, that I bought on-spec "just in case" I ever wanted to see it in high-res). And suddenly I was in the pool, and swimming rather than just treading water.

I think JB was one of the earlier retailers to always have a screen displaying blu-ray, and I remember being wowed by it and then starting checking out DVD v BD comparison screencaps on the web.

I had to wait until players were under $200 and new release discs were within $30 before I hopped on though.

I just stopped buying DVDs after awhile, even when BDs were affordable yet, because they ranged from looking awful to mediocre on HD TVs.

[80sfanboy]

I remember buying my first 5 blurays on sale @ $50 each from Sanity. It was the chea[est anywhere at that stage.

Originally Posted by insomniac

I think JB was one of the earlier retailers to always have a screen displaying blu-ray, and I remember being wowed by it and then starting checking out DVD v BD comparison screencaps on the web.

I had to wait until players were under $200 and new release discs were within $30 before I hopped on though.

I just stopped buying DVDs after awhile, even when BDs were affordable yet, because they ranged from looking awful to mediocre on HD TVs.

[Greengoblin]

the problem with the difference in quality all comes down to your setup alot of people who still buy dvd do so as there tv is not full hd so they don't really notice much of a difference, also price wise when blu ray first comes out it is way too expensive, I mean $40 for blu ray, dvd and ultraviolet so i can watch it anywhere i want i don't need this just give me the blu ray cheaper pls, i don't need three copies of the film just one so i would like them with one blu ray disk for $20 if they dropped the price more people might be inclined to make the switch.

[Reabralop]

Quality aside, what's the incentive to actually purchase blurays? I'm just now showing interest in getting a bluray player but not for buying movies, only for watching them. Even then, it's not for the bluray quality, its only for the extra features that used to be on DVDs.

People already upgraded from VHS to DVD. Bluray wants that expense done again? What happens when 4K becomes standard? More replacing. In general, I think the public is moving away from physical media. With digital streaming and downloaded purchases, physical isn't as important. I still prefer to own a physical copy but very few movies garner that status with me. Pandora, Netflix, etc have shown the public we're not limited by our personal collection when we can access someone else's much larger collection.

Besides, how much is the clarity of the visual display even thought of when you're engrossed in a film? There are many great films on VHS that look bad but once you start "watching" them, do you stop cause its not dvd or because you can't see the pores on their cheeks? I think bluray had a very narrow window and 4K doesn't have any window at all. 4K (discs) will be the next record players, niche only. Streaming is what the masses have chosen, 1080p and now 4K direct to your device.

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by Reabralop

Quality aside, what's the incentive to actually purchase blurays? I'm just now showing interest in getting a bluray player but not for buying movies, only for watching them. Even then, it's not for the bluray quality, its only for the extra features that used to be on DVDs.

People already upgraded from VHS to DVD. Bluray wants that expense done again? What happens when 4K becomes standard? More replacing. In general, I think the public is moving away from physical media. With digital streaming and downloaded purchases, physical isn't as important. I still prefer to own a physical copy but very few movies garner that status with me. Pandora, Netflix, etc have shown the public we're not limited by our personal collection when we can access someone else's much larger collection.

Besides, how much is the clarity of the visual display even thought of when you're engrossed in a film? There are many great films on VHS that look bad but once you start "watching" them, do you stop cause its not dvd or because you can't see the pores on their cheeks? I think bluray had a very narrow window and 4K doesn't have any window at all. 4K (discs) will be the next record players, niche only. Streaming is what the masses have chosen, 1080p and now 4K direct to your device.

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[Supernaut]

Originally Posted by Reabralop

Quality aside, what's the incentive to actually purchase blurays? I'm just now showing interest in getting a bluray player but not for buying movies, only for watching them. Even then, it's not for the bluray quality, its only for the extra features that used to be on DVDs.

People already upgraded from VHS to DVD. Bluray wants that expense done again? What happens when 4K becomes standard? More replacing. In general, I think the public is moving away from physical media. With digital streaming and downloaded purchases, physical isn't as important. I still prefer to own a physical copy but very few movies garner that status with me. Pandora, Netflix, etc have shown the public we're not limited by our personal collection when we can access someone else's much larger collection.

Besides, how much is the clarity of the visual display even thought of when you're engrossed in a film? There are many great films on VHS that look bad but once you start "watching" them, do you stop cause its not dvd or because you can't see the pores on their cheeks? I think bluray had a very narrow window and 4K doesn't have any window at all. 4K (discs) will be the next record players, niche only. Streaming is what the masses have chosen, 1080p and now 4K direct to your device.

Don't believe the hype. This is the typical propaganda perpetuated by studio execs to protect their vast fortunes. They learned long ago the absence of printing physical media would bring them untold riches. With the highly profitable digital business model why bother?

I think Bill Hunt said it best:

"The bottom line is this: In the all-digital future, Hollywood needs to revise their concept of ownership to be more consumer friendly. Hollywood needs to let you own and keep legal digital movie and TV files on your own drives – files they can’t remotely deactivate or deny you access to by pulling them off the cloud. But trust me, they don’t want to do that and they’re going to fight doing it tooth and nail. Hollywood is, right now, building a digital future in which your control over your media that you’ve purchased legally is an illusion. Now, some of you younger readers are probably thinking, “Yeah, so what? The cloud is cool! Discs are for dinosaurs, man!” Well… if you’re a movie fan, especially someone who has loved building and enjoying a large library collection of your favorite films and TV shows on disc – discs that you can watch whenever and wherever you want – it’s something you’d be smart to think long and hard about."

[80sfanboy]

I will tell you something. For the last 10 years, I have worked in I.T./HiFi and have had multiple media PC's with massive storage. I have always had the internet with access to any movie I want. Yes I have downloaded movies and stored them on my system and had it networked to every other device in my house. Hell I had thousands of movies ready to go at any moment just in case. All for free! Before you say anything, I also had a massive collection of VHS/DVD/Blu-rays at the same time. I guess I wanted to have instant access to these files always right? Well I will get back to that in just a moment. I am not exactly perfect when it comes to piracy but I have spent over 100K on movies alone, so before anybody can have a whinge, spend that amount and then come and see me.

Back to my mass digital media obsession, I noticed that I would maybe watch one of these files a month or so. They became to me just like another file on my computer. I would just stuff them all in to desired folders for a rainy day which never seemed to come around! I was always choosing to look at my hard earned money paid for collection with even more of a desire to watch them. I could have sold all of my movies and made great money back many times over and just stuck with the media...... but I simply wasn't feeling satisfied enough to even watch 1 title any more that was "not earned"

Then comes along Netflix, Hulu etc. This seemed like a cool idea for TV Shows that have already aired outside of my country but not inside of it. I liked that idea and was happy to pay for the setup and such. The funny thing is, I could re watch the shows as many times as I wanted for free, but I still purchased the series on Blu-ray and completely discarded the thought of ever watching it any other way. With movies, I was even more anal. Unless it was at the cinema, I refused and still do refuse to watch any copy of the movie unless it is my own purchased Blu-ray (If that is available) of course.

As you can see there is a pattern here. It's not about being able to simply watch something. It's about being a collector. This word can be a variety of things to a variety of people, but to me it is about this:

1. I love having all of my movies on display for myself and family/friends

2. I love to handle them and look at the packaging and admire them all individually

3. I could seriously sniff brand new movies and the inserts all day, yes I am weird but screw you, I love it

4. Even having the choice of a free media copy or a bought physical copy, I have demonstrated to myself many times that 10/10 I prefer to have the physical copy!

5. I find it extremely fun and rewarding, going in to actually select the movies I want or to buy them online, choosing the ultimate packaging with slips, digipaks, foil, metal, steel. I love the extra collectibles that come along with it. To be honest, if I couldn't have that sensation anymore, than my movie experience would be entirely lost.

All of this might not mean anything to you, that's fine. I understand that not everybody dedicates time and effort in to movies, they have better things to do with their lives. Deep down, there is something that everybody likes to do. In this instance it is not about being a movie collector, it is being a movie watcher, which is fine, but in my eyes it is another example of the future generations growing with technology.

It forces people subconsciously to become lazy and less sentimental. Everything has to be 1 click (omg this SMS/IM/Email is taking ages to send...... oh finally, that was a whopping 5 second delay) (WE ALL DO THIS NOW!) - The world is becoming very informal, impersonal and caring less and less about physical contact for everything. Movies, Music, Games, Communication, Entertainment. A majority of this is all done seated and in front of a computer now. We don't need to write a letter and wait ages for a reply which is good. It also comes with negatives. You don't get to touch and feel the envelope and lick and seal the letter (leaving a nice scent of cologne or a little surprise for your friend/gf/bf etc) - there is no reason to attain anything when you don't need to right? Well that is true and it is most likely not your fault. You have been robbed of these feelings and nostalgia before you could even experience them.

I could go on for hours but there is really no point. It is as simple as this. You are either a collector, or you aren't! - If you are then you will forever purchase rather than download/stream. There will always be a market for us. I also believe there will be a market for the non collector. I am just scared now that companies might focus less attention on the physical as they simply might not need to as much any more. When and if this deteriorates, it will 100% start a war. I am 100% sure of which side I will be on and I will be the fricken commander!

[Boschy]

Besides movies, I still buy books...mostly second-hand science fiction and horror paperbacks by well-respected writers and pulp/hack writers.

I already know that I'll only read 10% of these books (based on reading speed, frequency, lifespan), and most can be obtained as downloads. But I can't see myself stopping. I just like having them on the shelf. Basically I love having my own personal library...when it's time to pick the next book to read, I have many 100s to choose from. And as 80sfanboy said, the others are "on display" for me and any visitors to enjoy (or puzzle over).