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Old 09-18-2007, 02:07 PM   #1
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Default The Cell production plant Sony sells off to Toshiba... not in the millions...

its now according to this site in the billions 1.7

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7008549648

selling because of low demand..hmm i guess IBM,Toshiba and SONY know where they can sell those Chips.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:41 PM   #2
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The following link provides a little more detail.
http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-...709170055.html
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:36 PM   #3
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The following link provides a little more detail.
http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-...709170055.html
thank's..though i do not agree with the term the article OP pointed as SLUGGISH playstation 3 sales.
I would hardly call selling 6 million systems world wide in less than 9 months sluggish.esp at $500.00 and $600.00 a system
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:23 PM   #4
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and it was more than the 360 did in that frame of time
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:28 PM   #5
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thank's..though i do not agree with the term the article OP pointed as SLUGGISH playstation 3 sales.
I would hardly call selling 6 million systems world wide in less than 9 months sluggish.esp at $500.00 and $600.00 a system
First off before anyone thinks I am putting the PS3 down I have two of them ( upstairs and downstairs) so I am not.

Now, the PS3 has not sold 6 million units, they are at about 4.63 million units sold based on the latest numbers at NPD.

The reason the press keeps saying sales are sluggish is because they are comparing it to the sales of the Wii (11.64 million units sold with no sign of it slowing down), and to a lessor degree the sales of the 360 which is still outselling the PS3, based on NPD sales numbers for August the PS3 sold 130,600 units, the 360 sold 276,700 units (Vgchartz had the PS3 higher at about 181,000 ), the Wii was over 400,000 units sold.

Now in July, the PS3 sold 197,135 units, about 50,000 more then the 360, but it dropped in August which I did not think would happen since the PS3 had Lair come out, I really thought Lair would spike some sales.

The bad news is Halo 3 at the end of this month, that will spike a lot of sales for the 360 up until X-Mas.( But I will wait for the PC version to come out next year ).
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:54 PM   #6
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The reason the press keeps saying sales are sluggish is because they are comparing it to the sales of the Wii (11.64 million units sold with no sign of it slowing down)
It'll slow down soon enough. As I predicted a year ago, Reggie has been saying an "unprecidented number" of Wiis available for Xmas

Right after Xbox and PS3 have major drops, all of asudden there's Wiis-a-plenty, just like 20 years ago with their cartridge "shortages". Artificial fads

half the people coming into the Gamestop "I just know I need a Wii, I don't know anything about it"

Shiny graphics+new lower prices+much better games for mainstream audiences=Nintendo back in the 20% hole where they belong.
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:26 PM   #7
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First off before anyone thinks I am putting the PS3 down I have two of them ( upstairs and downstairs) so I am not.

Now, the PS3 has not sold 6 million units, they are at about 4.63 million units sold based on the latest numbers at NPD.

The reason the press keeps saying sales are sluggish is because they are comparing it to the sales of the Wii (11.64 million units sold with no sign of it slowing down), and to a lessor degree the sales of the 360 which is still outselling the PS3, based on NPD sales numbers for August the PS3 sold 130,600 units, the 360 sold 276,700 units (Vgchartz had the PS3 higher at about 181,000 ), the Wii was over 400,000 units sold.

Now in July, the PS3 sold 197,135 units, about 50,000 more then the 360, but it dropped in August which I did not think would happen since the PS3 had Lair come out, I really thought Lair would spike some sales.

The bad news is Halo 3 at the end of this month, that will spike a lot of sales for the 360 up until X-Mas.( But I will wait for the PC version to come out next year ).
and i know where you QUOTE THAT 4.63 MILLION IS FROM VGA CHARTZ WHICH does not and i repeat VGAchartz do NOT have WORLD WIDE sales data. not only that and there is no way that they would have WORLD WIDE SALES DATA thay are just analysts in other words ..WE JUST MAKE A GUESS.....the reason I doubt THAT NUMBER FOR WORLD WIDE SALES LET ALONE SONY has went on the record to their share holders and stated 6 million WORLD WIDE. SEEING HOW there are (64) countries world wide that the playstation 3, playstation 2 ,psp ships to and sells through RETAIL. there is no way they IE: ANY ONE OUT SIDE OF SONY has all sales data WORLD WIDE sales number's. The only one's who have that DATA is Sony. and even their DATA is not 100% on the MONEY. THE REASON BEING the only #'S SONY has to go by is RESTOCK/REORDER through their entire retail CHAIN world wide.they have no way EVEN sony THEMSELVES does not know how many units sell through each and ever retail chain the only numbers is restock and reorder. when a reorder comes through they know the units went through the point of sale. but there are 64 countries world wide they would have to track for sell through retail.Do not get me wrong NPD GIVES a very good IDEA what sell numbers are like but even NPD does not include Wal-Mart in their Data. let alone other stores. even then its by what RETAIL chains are involved in North America. not the world

NPD is not world wide..SONY has stated the world wide install base for the playstation 3 is (6) million.
that was said to the press and share holders at the AU playstation event.

reported by GFK
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just like NPD...this is what GFK does

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/808/808656p2.html

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Old 09-19-2007, 02:04 AM   #8
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joeorc, as of last qtr, Sony had sold 4.28M to retailers (their financials). Typically, the sales to consumers are a bit less than sales to retail.

The 6M no. quoted was warehouse shipments (marketing message, thus the biggest possible no. was chosen I guess).

Btw, vgchartz is fairly accurate with their estimates. Example: http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=5078

So, if sales now are ~ 4.6M, sales to retail would be ~5.5M
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