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Old 10-23-2010, 06:26 PM   #1
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Okay, I'm about to throw my Apocalypse Now blu-ray out the window. First I had loading problems on my BDP-09FD and then figured out a way to get it to load. Then, the disc freezes right before the Sampan Massacre chapter on both versions. Amazon sent me out a new copy, but I had the same exact problems on the new copy. Is anyone else having such problems? I sure as hell hate to go back to the DVD, but I may have to.

Any help out there?
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Old 10-23-2010, 06:28 PM   #2
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Okay, I'm about to throw my Apocalypse Now blu-ray out the window. First I had loading problems on my BDP-09FD and then figured out a way to get it to load. Then, the disc freezes right before the Sampan Massacre chapter on both versions. Amazon sent me out a new copy, but I had the same exact problems on the new copy. Is anyone else having such problems? I sure as hell hate to go back to the DVD, but I may have to.

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have you updated your firmware ?
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Old 10-23-2010, 06:30 PM   #3
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have you updated your firmware ?
I have the latest firmware version. I reported the loading problem to Pioneer as soon as it happened, and they said they'd look into it and issue a new firmware version if need be, but that could take months, and I doubt that would affect the freezing issue. I couldn't be more pissed.
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Old 10-23-2010, 06:54 PM   #4
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Well, I guess I'm the only one having these problems. Misery loves company, and I guess I don't get any.
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Old 10-23-2010, 06:57 PM   #5
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Run one of THESE in your blu-ray player.
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Old 10-23-2010, 07:17 PM   #6
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I have a Sony BDP S550 and when I first loaded up the movie my blu ray player told me it coudln't play the disc. My player has all the firmware updates. I loaded it again and it failed again. On the third try a little panel came up that said it was looking for updates. This panel is related to the disc but I didn't see any internet activity. Either way the movie launched and now all three discs load up first try but they do always check for updates. Very odd. I have watched both versions of the film and all the extra's with no problems though. This is the first disc I ever bought that had any kind of issue loading up out of the 100 blu ray movies that I own. Lucky for me the problem seemed to fix itself. Possibly something on the disc looks for a internet connection and downloads some incredably small file that slipped by me. I don't know.

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Old 10-23-2010, 07:21 PM   #7
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i have a ps3 and *knocks on wood* it loaded up fine, it instantly played, and never froze at any time. i've watched the film (theatrical) 5 times now, and no issues. hoping for the same for all the special features, but so far, i haven't encountered any problems.
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:11 PM   #8
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Well, I'm at a complete loss. I've tried everything, so I can only assume it's one of two things: either a firmware update is needed (although I don't see how the freezing issue would be related to that) or both discs have the same problem, freezing at the same spot, due to some kind of issue with the "batch" that is being sent out (but, of course, that would mean other people would be complaining about the problem and I haven't seen any such complaints). The only other possibility is that it's my machine, but that doesn't make much sense because I'm not having the problem with any other blu-ray and, since the freezing occurs in the exact same spot on both discs, seems a remote possibility.

Right now it looks like I'm sending back the discs, getting my money back and re-ordering in a month or so, hoping for a miracle by then.

Thanks to those who offered their advice.
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:27 PM   #9
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Well, I'm at a complete loss. I've tried everything, so I can only assume it's one of two things: either a firmware update is needed (although I don't see how the freezing issue would be related to that) or both discs have the same problem, freezing at the same spot, due to some kind of issue with the "batch" that is being sent out (but, of course, that would mean other people would be complaining about the problem and I haven't seen any such complaints). The only other possibility is that it's my machine, but that doesn't make much sense because I'm not having the problem with any other blu-ray and, since the freezing occurs in the exact same spot on both discs, seems a remote possibility.

Right now it looks like I'm sending back the discs, getting my money back and re-ordering in a month or so, hoping for a miracle by then.

Thanks to those who offered their advice.
I have a ps3 slim and it freezes for me for a sec then plays at the same spot you have the problem.
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:39 PM   #10
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Panasonic DBP35. About the only thing odd was that somewhere along the line the initial internet connection failed. Maybe I wasn't inundated with trailers and clocks and weather reports as a result, so could have been a good thing. Movie itself played fine, no problem. (From the Full Disclosure set fwiw.)

Good luck with your next attempt.
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:49 PM   #11
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I have a ps3 slim and it freezes for me for a sec then plays at the same spot you have the problem.
Well, if your disk freezes at the same spot as mine (even though yours only does it for a second, while mine freezes indefinitely) then I guess that points to a problem with the disk itself.

You have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure this shit out.
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Old 10-23-2010, 10:24 PM   #12
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My Sony BDP-S350 loads it without any problems. Now, I haven't watched the movie itself, or the extras, so there might be some problems there.
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Okay, I'm about to throw my Apocalypse Now blu-ray out the window. First I had loading problems on my BDP-09FD and then figured out a way to get it to load. Then, the disc freezes right before the Sampan Massacre chapter on both versions. Amazon sent me out a new copy, but I had the same exact problems on the new copy. Is anyone else having such problems? I sure as hell hate to go back to the DVD, but I may have to.

Any help out there?
I have the 2-disc version. I've already watched it beginning to end 5 times (Redux twice, and theatrical 3 times) on my Sony BDP-S300 with no problems at all. I've also shown certain scenes to friends, which includes chapter skipping, forward and back, as well as fast forward and rewinding. It has never froze. I have my player's 5.4 firmware, and am getting ready to upgrade to the current 5.5 firmware. I just went to the Sampan chapter and rewinded a little bit, then watched through the chapter transistion. There was no glitch of any kind. The audio didn't even cut out.

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I have the 2-disc version. I've already watched it beginning to end 5 times (Redux twice, and theatrical 3 times) on my Sony BDP-S300 with no problems at all. I've also shown certain scenes to friends, which includes chapter skipping, forward and back, as well as fast forward and rewinding. It has never froze. I have my player's 5.4 firmware, and am getting ready to upgrade to the current 5.5 firmware. I just went to the Sampan chapter and rewinded a little bit, then watched through the chapter transistion. There was no glitch of any kind. The audio didn't even cut out.
I guess I drew the short straw and got the bad ones then
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I guess I drew the short straw and got the bad ones then



Not just you, from the main Apocalypse thread-


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Well that didn't last long.

My piece of sh*t Pioneer player won't play it.

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Ya probably. Except this POS player that I spent close to $3000 for when it came out hasn't had a firmware upgrade in over 6 months...

You BOTH have Pioneer players.

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Not just you, from the main Apocalypse thread-








You BOTH have Pioneer players.

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well, I hope everyone with a Pioneer player and having problems reports them right away...the more we bug them the better the chance they'll do something about it...and hopefully soon
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A common source of these types of problems is BD-Live and the dreaded Java curse. Try turning it off and see if that helps. I have never had it turned on with my Oppo BDP-83 and have never had a disc not play. Just a thought. Should be getting this disc on Monday and will be curious to see how it goes.
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A common source of these types of problems is BD-Live and the dreaded Java curse. Try turning it off and see if that helps. I have never had it turned on with my Oppo BDP-83 and have never had a disc not play. Just a thought. Should be getting this disc on Monday and will be curious to see how it goes.
I'll give it a try. Thanks
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No problems with my PS3 slim 250 or my Samsung BDP-1590
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Well, I guess I'm the only one having these problems. Misery loves company, and I guess I don't get any.
Nope, I can't even get it to play on my Pioneer. Keeps showing 'unknown disc'. And like you I'm about ready to throw it and my player out the window...
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