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Old 08-26-2006, 03:51 PM   #1
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Dated 8-25-06

Bill Hunt, of DigitalBits, wrote:


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"I'm somewhat surprised to find myself saying this, but HD-DVD is quietly making Blu-ray Disc look pretty silly.

Motivated as I've been by a desire to see this format war end quickly, I was quick to sing the potential praises of Blu-ray Disc early on, simply because it seemed to have the clear advantages of better technology and much broader studio support, plus the potential market-share dominance of the forthcoming PS3 game system.
How many of us does this describe? BH may as well have stolen my thoughts outright.



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And to be honest, my very early experiences with HD-DVD were disappointing. Since that time, however, an interesting this has happened... the early Blu-ray experience has turned out to be pretty lackluster too. Discs have looked bad, the Samsung player is a disaster and Sony's over-priced the PS3 right out of the market (you'll be able to buy both an Xbox 360 AND a Nintendo Wii for the price of a PS3).
All true to anyone who even tries to be objective for a few seconds.


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Sony and their BD camp allies are just not delivering on the promise of their format - period.
100 percent true.


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Meanwhile, HD-DVD software and Toshiba's hardware (via these firmware updates) just keeps getting better and better.

And get this: Sony STILL can't get their 50GB dual-layered Blu-ray Discs to work right on the existing and prototype players. The current Samsung player, as shipped, will not play them. How do you like them apples? Ouch.
I think those apples suck.


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If the BD camp doesn't do something dramatic and fast... they will have lost the hearts and minds of the early adopters to HD-DVD.

To my thinking at least, HD-DVD is looking better and better all the time... and it seems to me it's now the format to beat."
Exactly right.


Folks, this is the same Bill Hunt that was REPEATEDLY raped on hddvd.avs.com a BD shill and tool and the rest of it saying these things.


All I know is that BD better get cranking come 4th quarter, and I don't mean just cranking out expensive hardware. The software needs to be worthy of that hardware or you can forget about it.


They can keep promising the heavens, but they need to start DELIVERING.
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Old 08-26-2006, 06:45 PM   #2
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They can keep promising the heavens, but they need to start DELIVERING.
Amen to that! If someone would have told me this past January that I'd be the proud owner of an HD DVD player and that Blu-ray would be a huge disappointment I would have smacked them in the face for lying. Things change, people change. Blu-ray needs to make up for their miserable early showing and do so quickly if they still want my cash.
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Old 08-26-2006, 08:20 PM   #3
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no doubt if the bda,in particular Sony dosen't do something quick I'm going to say **** it and wait a little while and see if the bda can't improve. If they can't I guess I'll have to jump ship to hd dvd
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...and I'm sure you guys know that there won't be any "Pirates of the Caribbean" Blu-Ray discs (PERIOD!) for the holiday season. Yet another example that Blu-Ray is on that slippery slope -- perhaps to nowhere.

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Old 08-26-2006, 09:23 PM   #5
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4 months to the end of December is key. We have all known this. Nothing has changed.
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Old 08-27-2006, 01:32 AM   #6
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4 months to the end of December is key. We have all known this. Nothing has changed.
That's the problem. We "need" to see change coming from the BDA. Trotting out kilobuck machine after machine and delivering underperforming discs isn't engendering the format to anyone.

We simply demand the best quality and features available for a decent price. They've given us very little for the price.
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Old 08-29-2006, 06:10 AM   #7
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Amen to that! If someone would have told me this past January that I'd be the proud owner of an HD DVD player and that Blu-ray would be a huge disappointment I would have smacked them in the face for lying. Things change, people change. Blu-ray needs to make up for their miserable early showing and do so quickly if they still want my cash.


I remember first CDs and then DVDs were crap in the begining. BD is mostly prototypes curently and you want them to "DELIVER" as they were out for years??? I cant understand why some people are so short eyed! At the time when Blu-Ray gets stable enough to "DELIVER" the doom will be for HD DVD...
Just wait a few more months and you will see.

What will hapen when an average uninformed customer enters HD Video shop?
-"Hello. I want an HD Video player"
-"We have Toshiba, Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, LG, Apple, , , , , , , , ....................... players. The Toshiba is the cheapest and uses diferent discs while others are a bit more expensive and use Blu-Ray."
-"OK I will get the Panasonic..."
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Old 08-29-2006, 06:36 AM   #8
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As I said in some other thread, we're getting drip fed what we signed up for...

Flying Dagger... eugh...
Then Underworld Evo - Better
then Stealth - better still
then Training day - even better
now VC-1 Warner disks - Hubba hubba!

All building up to the final nirvana of 50GB VC-1/H264 disks.

But 25GB VC-1 is pretty hot. I bought all the Warner VC-1 disks. I don't even like the movies, I just want to see what all the VC-1 fuss is about.

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