IMMORTALS - US vs UK release - Blu-ray Forum

BrianW_UK · 03-10-2012, 03:47 PM

The UK release has been confirmed as cut by the BBFC (rating lowered from 18 to 15), can anyone with the US version confirm the runtime? I'm guessing Universal have released the same version everywhere as is their normal practice

UK runtime (with cuts): 110m 34s (18s of cuts)

chamillionaire · 03-10-2012, 03:52 PM

The UK only has the 18s of cuts.....The US was not edited and says 110mins

manicsounds · 03-10-2012, 10:09 PM

Yes, 18 seconds of cuts, but there are an extra 18 seconds of replacement shots.

Petra_Kalbrain · 03-10-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by manicsounds

Yes, 18 seconds of cuts, but there are an extra 18 seconds of replacement shots.

Censorship in any form is still censorship. That link is hardly a justification for the UK treating their citizens like infants.

nametag · 03-10-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Censorship in any form is still censorship. That link is hardly a justification for the UK treating their citizens like infants.

It's not censorship. It's the BBFC saying 'you can release this as is with an 18 certificate' and the studio replying 'ok, well we'll make cuts to get a 15 rating so that we can make more money'.

Petra_Kalbrain · 03-10-2012, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nametag

It's not censorship. It's the BBFC saying 'you can release this as is with an 18 certificate' and the studio replying 'ok, well we'll make cuts to get a 15 rating so that we can make more money'.

Last time I checked, every other country has no problems with the added 18 seconds of footage being exposed to their citizens without an 18 or R rating. The BBFC is saying "our citizens are too fragile and infantile to handle this material."

That is what is FORCING the studio to make the cuts.

VincentVinyl · 03-10-2012, 11:40 PM

Well you could say that about the US as well then: How many films have been cut to avoid an R rating? Quite many.

And in Germany it is even worse. UK seems more liberal than most countries in that regard with their age ratings.

mredman · 03-11-2012, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by VincentVinyl

Well you could say that about the US as well then: How many films have been cut to avoid an R rating? Quite many.

And in Germany it is even worse. UK seems more liberal than most countries in that regard with their age ratings.

Walking dead season 1 is also cut so is I spit on your grave (new version and old) i think UK is more fragile towards vioilence while US is more fragile towards sex. But they still dont cut up home video releases like UK and germany do.Which is really there loss because if they really think more people is gonna buy a censored version they are sadly mistaken

AlexSing · 03-11-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mredman

Walking dead season 1 is also cut so is I spit on your grave (new version and old) i think UK is more fragile towards vioilence while US is more fragile towards sex. But they still dont cut up home video releases like UK and germany do.Which is really there loss because if they really think more people is gonna buy a censored version they are sadly mistaken

As a Brit, I'd definitely have more sex than violence

psicon · 03-11-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Last time I checked, every other country has no problems with the added 18 seconds of footage being exposed to their citizens without an 18 or R rating. The BBFC is saying "our citizens are too fragile and infantile to handle this material."

That is what is FORCING the studio to make the cuts.

Isn't Immortals rated R in the US?

Petra_Kalbrain · 03-11-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by psicon

Isn't Immortals rated R in the US?

I didn't think so. But it turns out I was wrong about that. Now it begs the question as to why the studio didn't bother just letting the 18 rating stand and release the uncut in the UK. So, it is the studio that is censoring their own work?

Is it possible that the BBFC told them that they wouldn't allow the film to be shown in the UK with an 18 rating? Thus, putting the studio in a position of having no choice but to cut it? That is the only thing that would make sense to me behind the studio cutting their film just in the UK when they are fine with the uncut version being R/18 everywhere else in the world.

snooloui · 03-11-2012, 12:15 PM

It's quite obvious what the reasons behind it are. The BBFC said they would release it with an 18 certificate. The studio didn't want that as they can get more people in the cinema with a 15 certificate and so chose to cut the film. It's got nothing to do with censorship and everything to do with making money.

Kevin Coed · 03-11-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mredman

Walking dead season 1 is also cut

Not by the BBFC though. They passed what was submitted to them.

Kevin Coed · 03-11-2012, 01:15 PM

From the BBFC website regarding Immortals :-

This work was cut. The cut(s) were made at the request of the distributor to achieve a particular category. To obtain this category cuts of 0m 18s were required., some or all of these cuts were substitutions. Details of cuts below may contain spoilers of plot details. Show details »

Company chose to make cuts to reduce violence in order to achieve a 15 classification. Cuts were made in line with BBFC Guidelines and policy. An uncut 18 classification was available.

Petra_Kalbrain · 03-11-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by snooloui

It's quite obvious what the reasons behind it are. The BBFC said they would release it with an 18 certificate. The studio didn't want that as they can get more people in the cinema with a 15 certificate and so chose to cut the film. It's got nothing to do with censorship and everything to do with making money.

But why didn't they have any problem with an R rating in other countries though??? THAT is what confuses me. Had they cut it in North America they could have also gotten way more posteriors in theatre seats. And yet, the R rating was fine here. Why do it there when they could have just as easily done it here for the same reasons.

Kevin Coed · 03-11-2012, 01:51 PM

The next rating down from an R in the US is the PG-13 - the film would have to have been completely emasculated to achieve that rating. In the UK you can still get away with quite graphic violent imagery so that option was available here.

DVDANDY · 03-11-2012, 02:15 PM

watched last night fox region a locked uncut immortals and i have to say i liked it the video and audio are demo quality if you like 300 which i do you will like this i was playing in in 9.2 surround sound

and the hole house was rocking god bless blu ray

BrianW_UK · 03-11-2012, 03:26 PM

All good posts, but doesn't answer my question!
Have Universal released the same version in all countries (they normally do), or the US version the equivalent of the UK '18' (uncut) version?

If it's the same, then the BBFC's reach is extending beyond the UK borders!

lgans316 · 03-11-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianW_UK

All good posts, but doesn't answer my question!
Have Universal released the same version in all countries (they normally do), or the US version the equivalent of the UK '18' (uncut) version?

If it's the same, then the BBFC's reach is extending beyond the UK borders!

Universal isn't the sole distributor overseas.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1253864/companycredits

StumpyBloke · 03-11-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianW_UK

All good posts, but doesn't answer my question!
Have Universal released the same version in all countries (they normally do), or the US version the equivalent of the UK '18' (uncut) version?

If it's the same, then the BBFC's reach is extending beyond the UK borders!

I'd like to know this too...I want to decide if to get the US version (no region code right??) or the UK one. I don't want a cut version if possible.

03-10-2012, 03:47 PM	#1
BrianW_UK Junior Member Member since:Sep 2008	IMMORTALS - US vs UK release The UK release has been confirmed as cut by the BBFC (rating lowered from 18 to 15), can anyone with the US version confirm the runtime? I'm guessing Universal have released the same version everywhere as is their normal practice UK runtime (with cuts): 110m 34s (18s of cuts)

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03-10-2012, 03:52 PM	#2
chamillionaire Active Member Member since:Jun 2011 Blu-ray collection:450	The UK only has the 18s of cuts.....The US was not edited and says 110mins

03-10-2012, 10:09 PM	#3
manicsounds Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:4992 Blu-ray reviews: 99	Yes, 18 seconds of cuts, but there are an extra 18 seconds of replacement shots.

03-10-2012, 11:40 PM	#7
VincentVinyl Active Member Member since:Apr 2010 Trading Score:24	Well you could say that about the US as well then: How many films have been cut to avoid an R rating? Quite many. And in Germany it is even worse. UK seems more liberal than most countries in that regard with their age ratings.

03-11-2012, 12:15 PM	#12
snooloui Power Member Member since:Oct 2010 Location:UK Blu-ray collection:394	It's quite obvious what the reasons behind it are. The BBFC said they would release it with an 18 certificate. The studio didn't want that as they can get more people in the cinema with a 15 certificate and so chose to cut the film. It's got nothing to do with censorship and everything to do with making money.

03-11-2012, 01:15 PM	#14
Kevin Coed Active Member Member since:Nov 2011 Blu-ray collection:74	From the BBFC website regarding Immortals :- This work was cut. The cut(s) were made at the request of the distributor to achieve a particular category. To obtain this category cuts of 0m 18s were required., some or all of these cuts were substitutions. Details of cuts below may contain spoilers of plot details. Show details » Company chose to make cuts to reduce violence in order to achieve a 15 classification. Cuts were made in line with BBFC Guidelines and policy. An uncut 18 classification was available.

03-11-2012, 01:51 PM	#16
Kevin Coed Active Member Member since:Nov 2011 Blu-ray collection:74	The next rating down from an R in the US is the PG-13 - the film would have to have been completely emasculated to achieve that rating. In the UK you can still get away with quite graphic violent imagery so that option was available here.

03-11-2012, 02:15 PM	#17
DVDANDY Junior Member Member since:Sep 2008	watched last night fox region a locked uncut immortals and i have to say i liked it the video and audio are demo quality if you like 300 which i do you will like this i was playing in in 9.2 surround sound and the hole house was rocking god bless blu ray

03-11-2012, 03:26 PM	#18
BrianW_UK Junior Member Member since:Sep 2008	All good posts, but doesn't answer my question! Have Universal released the same version in all countries (they normally do), or the US version the equivalent of the UK '18' (uncut) version? If it's the same, then the BBFC's reach is extending beyond the UK borders!

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