Bluray player price vs ps3

[zero_cool098]

first of all im assuming that bluray player is more expensive than than ps3, if thats the case then why?the player just plays movies while ps3 plays games and movies

[marzetta7]

short answer: The PS3 is subsidized whereas the Blu-ray standalone players are not (the 2 HD DVD players solely from Toshiba are, thus their less expensive price as well).

[zero_cool098]

oh can u like explain that i have no idea wat it mean lol

[partridge]

The stand alone players are sold at cost/profit, meaning the price you pay covers the cost of making it plus a bit on top for the company.

Sony will sell the PS3 at a loss, meaning it costs a lot more to manufacture than the price they are selling it at. They are banking on making money on game and accessory sales to cover that loss, as well as money they may make with its online services and features, etc.

Over time the cost of making the console comes down and eventually, despite inevitable price drops, the console should move into profit. So it is a long term venture for Sony, what they lose initially they should get back over time assuming sales are good.

It worked for PS 1 & 2, both moved into profit due to the huge numbers sold, despite also being sold at a loss when they came out.

[zero_cool098]

Thanks for that info! So a bluray player and a ps3 interms of playing bluray movie disks are the same huh

[partridge]

Should be, with the PS3 being the big blu-ray device, it needs to be a showcase player for the format. So while you might not have all the features that a standalone might have, the playback (sound and picture) should still be up with the best of them.

[gblaue]

Originally Posted by partridge

Should be, with the PS3 being the big blu-ray device, it needs to be a showcase player for the format. So while you might not have all the features that a standalone might have, the playback (sound and picture) should still be up with the best of them.

So by your statement, any ChengDuShinDuc, $99 dollar (eventually) player will have the same audio/video performance as the $1500 Pioneer and Sony, just because it's blu-ray?

I tend to think not.

[takezo]

Originally Posted by partridge

The stand alone players are sold at cost/profit, meaning the price you pay covers the cost of making it plus a bit on top for the company.

Sony will sell the PS3 at a loss, meaning it costs a lot more to manufacture than the price they are selling it at. They are banking on making money on game and accessory sales to cover that loss, as well as money they may make with its online services and features, etc.

Over time the cost of making the console comes down and eventually, despite inevitable price drops, the console should move into profit. So it is a long term venture for Sony, what they lose initially they should get back over time assuming sales are good.

It worked for PS 1 & 2, both moved into profit due to the huge numbers sold, despite also being sold at a loss when they came out.

100% true

It also helps that the PS3 uses CELL and RSX to decode blu-ray, much like how modern computers play back DVDs. It means that no extra blu-ray hardware is in PS3, they just need a Blu-Ray decoding software preloaded.

Standalone players rely on a blu-ray chip. If you consider that you need a 3GHz computer, 1GB of ram and a 128mb video card to output HD video. Then you realise how powerfull the blu-ray firmware is.

there are some of the other factors that atribute to high cost

Manufacturing is still in it's early phases, this means quantities are low. Low yeild + high demand = high prices. The switch to masproduction and multiple chip providers, will drive prices significantly lower as yeild over demand raito even up.

New tecnology is a key reason. Manufactuing cost are higher due new machines, facilities, employee training, low yeilds (lots of duds). HD-DVD has less problems because it's build ontop of proven technology, "DVD".

Third and final reasons. No competition. Competion drives prices lower, as companies compete for customers Samsung has no competition, as they are the only standalone blu-ray player availible. i don' consider HD-DVD a compeditor as they are two diffrent formats. If someone wanted a stndalone Blu-ray now, Samy is the only one.

[Psiweaver]

PS3 will not lower prices of standalone blu-ray players at all. They are different products for different customers.

[takezo]

Originally Posted by Psiweaver

PS3 will not lower prices of standalone blu-ray players at all. They are different products for different customers.

i ment Stadalone Blu Ray players. From other maufactures. $999 seems to be the defacto price, but it only takes one company to relase one at $600 to set the bar for mid range players.

But as for quality of Blu-Ray playback on PS3. It all depends on Sony. To play incredibly realistic graphics at 1080p takes a lot of computational horse power. PS3 will be faster than most High End PCs. DVD playback on PCs with hardware accelleration will look somewhat better than a standard progresive scan DVD player. With CELL and RSX, Sony can keep updating Blu-ray playback software to match those on the PC to have unpresedented Blu-Ray playback quality.

However i feel PS3 will have a presence on the Home Theater market. 2 Millon PS3s at launch are going to sell out no problem, and that will add 2 million new Blu-ray movie customers. they show it to friends and family that may get PS3 or a standalone Blu-ray player.