Mill Creek does double features wrong... - Blu-ray Forum

demonknight · 08-13-2014, 12:19 AM

Sometimes I just don't get why this company packages some films together. Examples include:
Identity & Vacancy (Why not just Vacancy 1&2?)
Happy Birthday to Me & When a Stranger Calls (Why not just both versions of Stranger?)
Ernest Goes to Camp & Ernest Goes to Jail (Why not Jail and Scared Stupid, having the BDs go in release order?)
Basic & SWAT (Why not SWAT 1&2?)

Just why?

Me-Hostage · 08-13-2014, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by demonknight

Sometimes I just don't get why this company packages some films together. Examples include:
Identity & Vacancy (Why not just Vacancy 1&2?)
Happy Birthday to Me & When a Stranger Calls (Why not just both versions of Stranger?)
Ernest Goes to Camp & Ernest Goes to Jail (Why not Jail and Scared Stupid, having the BDs go in release order?)
Basic & SWAT (Why not SWAT 1&2?)

Just why?

It's not just Mill Creek. WB (I think) put Gremlins on a feature with The Goonies. But, does MC own the rights to the sequels?

Chloenator · 08-13-2014, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Me-Hostage

It's not just Mill Creek. WB (I think) put Gremlins on a feature with The Goonies. But, does MC own the rights to the sequels?

This, I believe, is the issue. MC likely doesn't have the rights to the sequels. Maybe MC struck a deal with Sony only to include certain titles, meaning that while MC can release Vacancy, Vacancy 2 is still owned by Sony. This goes for other sequels as well.

OneWayFilms · 08-13-2014, 12:33 AM

I thought the stupidest one was Gremlins/Gremlins 2/The Goonies.

Why make that a 3-film collection instead of just leaving it at Gremlins 1&2 DOUBLE FEATURE? Adding the Goonies RUINED that collection for me. Now, I LOVE the Goonies, but it just doesn't go with Gremlins 1 & 2.

DUMB choice in my opinion.

MifuneFan · 08-13-2014, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by demonknight

Sometimes I just don't get why this company packages some films together. Examples include:
Identity & Vacancy (Why not just Vacancy 1&2?)
Happy Birthday to Me & When a Stranger Calls (Why not just both versions of Stranger?)
Ernest Goes to Camp & Ernest Goes to Jail (Why not Jail and Scared Stupid, having the BDs go in release order?)
Basic & SWAT (Why not SWAT 1&2?)

Just why?

Have you checked to see if the even have the rights to every movie you mentioned?

Undeadcow · 08-13-2014, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OneWayFilms

I thought the stupidest one was Gremlins/Gremlins 2/The Goonies.

Why make that a 3-film collection instead of just leaving it at Gremlins 1&2 DOUBLE FEATURE? Adding the Goonies RUINED that collection for me. Now, I LOVE the Goonies, but it just doesn't go with Gremlins 1 & 2.

DUMB choice in my opinion.

...but this was a budget release from Warner Brothers where you could obtain Gremlins 1, Gremlins 2, AND Goonies for the price of any one alone previously. I don't understand the objection, it's like WB gave away free movies by bundling them together.

Actually Mill Creek also does budget releases. I sure did appreciate being able to purchase Happy Birthday To Me in high definition at all - much less for $5 AND including another title with it; even if that other title didn't obviously match, it was a great bonus.

Pulp Hero · 08-13-2014, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Me-Hostage

It's not just Mill Creek. WB (I think) put Gremlins on a feature with The Goonies. But, does MC own the rights to the sequels?

Gremlins and The Goonies both have Steven Spielberg connections, so their pairing does have sense behind it.

mayorofsmpleton · 08-13-2014, 01:30 AM

While I would have loved to have When A Stranger Calls BACK included with the first film I don't think the rights reside with Mill Creek.

It was distributed by Universal (though I don't believe it was ever put into theaters in the US. It was a "tv movie" that they sold to Showtime I think)

Goodtimes distributed the DVD release back in the day (same as The Funhouse/Halloween 2/Halloween 3) all of which were licensed out from Universal so I would assume Universal still has the rights. Perhaps SCREAM factory will get their hands on it at some point.

Monterey Jack · 08-13-2014, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pulp Hero

Gremlins and The Goonies both have Steven Spielberg connections, so their pairing does have sense behind it.

And they're both written by Chris Columbus, and there's an in-joke reference to Gremlins in The Goonies, so they officially are set in the same "universe".

tylergfoster · 08-13-2014, 02:53 AM

I asked them once why they didn't pair up The Color of Night with Hudson Hawk and they pointed out that the distributors also must be the same. Even if Mill Creek has the rights to two films, they can't be paired up if they're from separate distributors.

digs5446 · 08-13-2014, 02:56 AM

I agree that it seems totally nonsensical, but the fact that many could be had for $2.96 at Wal-Mart and you can find them for $5 or less (often used) on Amazon? I'll take it. Think I have all but two or three.

Me-Hostage · 08-13-2014, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pulp Hero

Gremlins and The Goonies both have Steven Spielberg connections, so their pairing does have sense behind it.

No. Just no. It doesn't matter what connections... they have nothing to do with each other. If they were the same genre of movies, I'd say sure, but these two? No.

HeavyHitter · 08-13-2014, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tylergfoster

I asked them once why they didn't pair up The Color of Night with Hudson Hawk and they pointed out that the distributors also must be the same. Even if Mill Creek has the rights to two films, they can't be paired up if they're from separate distributors.

Did you ask them how they goofed up the audio track of Hudson Hawk?

steve_dave · 08-13-2014, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Did you ask them how they goofed up the audio track of Hudson Hawk?

If you haven't done so already, Mill Creek is offering replacements for it.

demonknight · 08-13-2014, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

And they're both written by Chris Columbus, and there's an in-joke reference to Gremlins in The Goonies, so they officially are set in the same "universe".

If you trace it far enough (I have), Airplane, Knight Rider and 2001 are in the same universe as Gremlins.

BLOFELD · 08-13-2014, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by demonknight

Sometimes I just don't get why this company packages some films together. Examples include:
Identity & Vacancy (Why not just Vacancy 1&2?)
Happy Birthday to Me & When a Stranger Calls (Why not just both versions of Stranger?)
Ernest Goes to Camp & Ernest Goes to Jail (Why not Jail and Scared Stupid, having the BDs go in release order?)
Basic & SWAT (Why not SWAT 1&2?)

Just why?

why would you pay money for this crap anyways? mill creek puts out shit titles and transfers. that's what their known for.

steve_dave · 08-13-2014, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BLOFELD

why would you pay money for this crap anyways? mill creek puts out shit titles and transfers. that's what their known for.

No. No, they are not.

You might be confusing them with Echo Bridge. Mill Creek has a strong enough reputation that when a studio decides to stop distribution, MC usually wins the bid to continue handling it. They use the same elements as before albeit wirh different compression codecs.

The only blight was the July wave which is partially the fault of Sony for providing inferior audio elements. Matter of fact, Sony did the same thing to Netflix; Last Action Hero used to have 5.1 audio on Netflix, its now stereo.

BLOFELD · 08-13-2014, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by steve_dave

No. No, they are not.

You might be confusing them with Echo Bridge. Mill Creek has a strong enough reputation that when a studio decides to stop distribution, MC usually wins the bid to continue handling it. They use the same elements as before albeit wirh different compression codecs.

The only blight was the July wave which is partially the fault of Sony for providing inferior audio elements. Matter of fact, Sony did the same thing to Netflix; Last Action Hero used to have 5.1 audio on Netflix, its now stereo.

steve "most" (that is with few exceptions) they put out crap titles and the transfers stink. the cases are also horrible and they often times use paper envelopes inside them. i have a couple of mill creek sets but most of their stuff just isn't for me. even for like $5.

uther · 08-13-2014, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Have you checked to see if the even have the rights to every movie you mentioned?

Of course not, they never do that when making the compliant.

Gold Ranger · 08-13-2014, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by demonknight

If you trace it far enough (I have), Airplane, Knight Rider and 2001 are in the same universe as Gremlins.

Please explain.....

08-13-2014, 12:19 AM	#1
demonknight Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2013 Blu-ray collection:17	Mill Creek does double features wrong... Sometimes I just don't get why this company packages some films together. Examples include: Identity & Vacancy (Why not just Vacancy 1&2?) Happy Birthday to Me & When a Stranger Calls (Why not just both versions of Stranger?) Ernest Goes to Camp & Ernest Goes to Jail (Why not Jail and Scared Stupid, having the BDs go in release order?) Basic & SWAT (Why not SWAT 1&2?) Just why?

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08-13-2014, 12:33 AM	#4
OneWayFilms Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Mississippi 4K collection:16 Blu-ray collection:971 DVD collection:759 Digital collection:457 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:5	I thought the stupidest one was Gremlins/Gremlins 2/The Goonies. Why make that a 3-film collection instead of just leaving it at Gremlins 1&2 DOUBLE FEATURE? Adding the Goonies RUINED that collection for me. Now, I LOVE the Goonies, but it just doesn't go with Gremlins 1 & 2. DUMB choice in my opinion.

08-13-2014, 01:30 AM	#8
mayorofsmpleton Special Member Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:654 DVD collection:179 Blu-ray reviews:1	While I would have loved to have When A Stranger Calls BACK included with the first film I don't think the rights reside with Mill Creek. It was distributed by Universal (though I don't believe it was ever put into theaters in the US. It was a "tv movie" that they sold to Showtime I think) Goodtimes distributed the DVD release back in the day (same as The Funhouse/Halloween 2/Halloween 3) all of which were licensed out from Universal so I would assume Universal still has the rights. Perhaps SCREAM factory will get their hands on it at some point.

08-13-2014, 02:53 AM	#10
tylergfoster Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Seattle, WA 4K collection:899 Blu-ray collection:4567 DVD collection:1159 MA collection:2166 Digital collection:1727 iTunes collection:50 Prime collection:3 Trading Score:249	I asked them once why they didn't pair up *The Color of Night* with *Hudson Hawk* and they pointed out that the distributors also must be the same. Even if Mill Creek has the rights to two films, they can't be paired up if they're from separate distributors.

08-13-2014, 02:56 AM	#11
digs5446 Senior Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Worcester, MA, USA	I agree that it seems totally nonsensical, but the fact that many could be had for $2.96 at Wal-Mart and you can find them for $5 or less (often used) on Amazon? I'll take it. Think I have all but two or three.

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