why do i need to buy Collector set to get 1 blu-ray i want? - Blu-ray Forum

tootal2 · 12-31-2010, 03:41 PM

I want to buy Star Trek - The Motion Picture. But I have to buy the Star Trek - The Motion Picture Collection set. to buy the blu-ray i want. And already have the other 2 star trek blu-rays that come with this set.

Why do they do this for?

un4gvn94538 · 12-31-2010, 03:53 PM

the set came out first. you could have easily waited for the price to come way down on the set if you were going to buy 3 of them. and you dont HAVE to buy the set. wait till the one you want is released.

miller_time22 · 12-31-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tootal2

I want to buy Star Trek - The Motion Picture. But I have to buy the Star Trek - The Motion Picture Collection set. to buy the blu-ray i want. And already have the other 2 star trek blu-rays that come with this set.

Why do they do this for?

To get you to pay for films you don't want. MGM employs this strategy often with the Bond series as well. If you're not a completist, unfortunately it means you just have to wait for individual releases. In the case of Star Trek, they will without question be released individually. But, it may be 2012 or so when the next film hits.

HD Goofnut · 12-31-2010, 04:22 PM

I still think it's strange that only First Contact, The Wrath of Kahn, Undiscovered Country, and The Voyage Home received individual releases.

Arkadin · 12-31-2010, 04:51 PM

you don't.
you can order the UK version to complete the set.
It is region free and
won't have any PAL content on it because it is a major studio release.
It's also cheap; shouldn't cost you more than about $20 to get it shipped to you.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Trek-Pi...3817871&sr=1-3

Space_Butler · 12-31-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I still think it's strange that only First Contact, The Wrath of Kahn, Undiscovered Country, and The Voyage Home received individual releases.

I do too, because those are widely considered to be the best movies in each respective series. Usually studios put the lesser movies as individuals and make you buy the whole set for the one or two really good ones you want.

nascar2010 · 12-31-2010, 05:35 PM

Buy the set and sell the other 2 on eBay.

horizonline · 12-31-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tootal2

I want to buy Star Trek - The Motion Picture. But I have to buy the Star Trek - The Motion Picture Collection set. to buy the blu-ray i want. And already have the other 2 star trek blu-rays that come with this set.

Why do they do this for?

They are only accepting Star Wars Empire Strikes Back into the library of congress, but this isn't about archive and such a comparison would be considered off topic, wouldn't it? My suggestion, have the cost reduced, or wait until it does so.

Spottedfeather · 12-31-2010, 07:05 PM

I don't want the Trek blu-ray set at all. I would if it had all the same features as the dvd set. And it's not the special editions of the movies, either. Sloppy work, Paramount.

nascar2010 · 12-31-2010, 09:36 PM

Paramount is taking a page out of George Lucas' playbook. Release one version, wait a few years, then release another, and then another with additiona matierial. It's a money-making circle.

Lucas has a ton of my money. I have the Ep. 3 - 6 on VHS, and then again on laserdisc. Then, bought the "Special Edition" set again on laserdisc. And then I, of course, bought the DVD's when those were finally released. Stupidly, I thought that was gonna be it. So, I'll probably buy them on blu-ray when they are released later this year.

aggienader08 · 12-31-2010, 11:40 PM

Why would you only want Star Trek: The Motion Picture anyway?

My point is that you'd be one of the few that are picking up the set on store shelves and saying, "But I only want ST: TMP! Grrr!". The reason they only released FC, Kahn, UC, and Voyage Home as stand alones is because they're the most popular and best selling titles. Sales figures would be horrible on a stand alone release of the others, just as they were for the DVD and VHS sales.

It's similar, but worse than this:

Would you want the Indiana Jones Complete Collection? or just The Temple of Doom?
Star Wars Complete Saga? or just The Phantom Menace?

I know it's frustrating, but when sales figures for a lesser movie aren't so great, most studios generally just combine them with a greater package to increase their value.

Now, if you had said "I want Alien and not the whole Anthology." then I would say you'd definitely get your wish in the future, but the same isn't assured for ST:TMP.

Arkadin · 01-01-2011, 12:45 AM

he said he already has the other 2 on bd.

FlipperWasIrish · 01-01-2011, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Arkadin

he said he already has the other 2 on bd.

Many people don't read, they just assume they know what they are talking about.

YodasFootPowder · 01-01-2011, 07:49 AM

Buy the set, sell the ones you have. Doesn't seem that hard.

Ite · 01-01-2011, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tootal2

I want to buy Star Trek - The Motion Picture. But I have to buy the Star Trek - The Motion Picture Collection set. to buy the blu-ray i want. And already have the other 2 star trek blu-rays that come with this set.

Why do they do this for?

They will come out individually eventually.

Steel Panther · 01-02-2011, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nascar2010

Paramount is taking a page out of George Lucas' playbook. Release one version, wait a few years, then release another, and then another with additiona matierial. It's a money-making circle.

Lucas has a ton of my money. I have the Ep. 3 - 6 on VHS, and then again on laserdisc. Then, bought the "Special Edition" set again on laserdisc. And then I, of course, bought the DVD's when those were finally released. Stupidly, I thought that was gonna be it. So, I'll probably buy them on blu-ray when they are released later this year.

I have the original VHS release, the THX release VHS, the special edition VHS, the THX DVDs, the Original Theatrical release DVDs/THX Dvds in collectors Tin, and I'll pay out the ass for the Blu Rays. Damn him.

Blu Titan · 01-02-2011, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tootal2

I want to buy Star Trek - The Motion Picture. But I have to buy the Star Trek - The Motion Picture Collection set. to buy the blu-ray i want. And already have the other 2 star trek blu-rays that come with this set.

Why do they do this for?

Short answer...to make more money. If you are patient, the movies will eventually be released individually.

aggienader08 · 01-02-2011, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Arkadin

he said he already has the other 2 on bd.

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Originally Posted by FlipperWasIrish

Many people don't read, they just assume they know what they are talking about.

I know that. What about what I said gives the impression that I didn't read the OP? Having "the other two already in the set" does not put the OP in a different situation, because you either have the whole set or you don't, thus you either have the TMP or you don't. And btw, I do know what I'm talking about

Sir Platypus · 01-02-2011, 04:07 AM

The way I (possibly just like to) see it is that it's a good way for studios to get sales on what are considered to be "lesser titles".

For instance, let's say New Line decided to release the A Nightmare on Elm Street set on Blu-Ray. I would hop all over that shit, but if they released them individually, I may just cherry pick my favorites until I can find the rest for dirt cheap to complete my set.

Compare the amount of people who would buy Freddy's Revenge or Freddy's Dead to those who would rather just pick up Dream Warriors or New Nightmare. Now how many of those fans would like to just buy a set for a nice collector's item?

The point is, it's a good way for them to make sure they don't waste their time and money releasing movies that may not sell as well as others, for the most part. Kinda sucks for those who only want one or two films from a set, but it's just kind of the way things are.

Sorry if you think the Nightmare analogy doesn't apply perfectly, but it's the only franchise I believe I'd buy in a set, besides obvious ones (BTTF, Star Wars) and has a comparable amount of titles.

BillieCassin · 01-02-2011, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I still think it's strange that only First Contact, The Wrath of Kahn, Undiscovered Country, and The Voyage Home received individual releases.

That's the shady part of the Trek Blus.

Now, I have to say - I am a fan of the sets. People cry about PQ, but I think they look great - and certainly head and shoulders above the DVDs (with the exception of not having the extended editions).

However, the fact that they have only released certain ones as singles is just dumb. I've seen people get burnt because they saw them on sale, picked a few up, and thought, "Oh, I'll find the rest later". When #2, #4, #6, and #8 are available as singles, logically most people would just assume they all are.

Gotta say, this is one of the shadier things in the Blu-ray world.

12-31-2010, 03:41 PM	#1
tootal2 Member Member since:Aug 2010 Location:st. louis mo Blu-ray collection:25 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1	why do i need to buy Collector set to get 1 blu-ray i want? I want to buy Star Trek - The Motion Picture. But I have to buy the Star Trek - The Motion Picture Collection set. to buy the blu-ray i want. And already have the other 2 star trek blu-rays that come with this set. Why do they do this for?

12-31-2010, 04:51 PM	#5
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	you don't. you can order the UK version to complete the set. It is region free and won't have any PAL content on it because it is a major studio release. It's also cheap; shouldn't cost you more than about $20 to get it shipped to you. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Trek-Pi...3817871&sr=1-3 Last edited by Arkadin; 12-31-2010 at 04:54 PM.

12-31-2010, 11:40 PM	#11
aggienader08 Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Fort Worth, TX Home Theater Gallery:24 Blu-ray collection:513 Blu-ray reviews: 3	Why would you only want Star Trek: The Motion Picture anyway? My point is that you'd be one of the few that are picking up the set on store shelves and saying, "But I only want ST: TMP! Grrr!". The reason they only released FC, Kahn, UC, and Voyage Home as stand alones is because they're the most popular and best selling titles. Sales figures would be horrible on a stand alone release of the others, just as they were for the DVD and VHS sales. It's similar, but worse than this: Would you want the Indiana Jones Complete Collection? or just The Temple of Doom? Star Wars Complete Saga? or just The Phantom Menace? I know it's frustrating, but when sales figures for a lesser movie aren't so great, most studios generally just combine them with a greater package to increase their value. Now, if you had said "I want Alien and not the whole Anthology." then I would say you'd definitely get your wish in the future, but the same isn't assured for ST:TMP. Last edited by aggienader08; 01-01-2011 at 12:10 AM.

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12-31-2010, 03:53 PM	#2
un4gvn94538 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Limbo (Bakersfield, Ca.) 4K collection:143 Blu-ray collection:811 DVD collection:54 Digital collection:1494 Trading Score:277	the set came out first. you could have easily waited for the price to come way down on the set if you were going to buy 3 of them. and you dont HAVE to buy the set. wait till the one you want is released.

12-31-2010, 04:22 PM	#4
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	I still think it's strange that only First Contact, The Wrath of Kahn, Undiscovered Country, and The Voyage Home received individual releases.

12-31-2010, 05:35 PM	#7
nascar2010 Member Member since:Dec 2009 4K collection:24 Blu-ray collection:805	Buy the set and sell the other 2 on eBay.

12-31-2010, 07:05 PM	#9
Spottedfeather Active Member Member since:Jun 2008 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:757 DVD collection:1733 Blu-ray reviews:9 Trading Score:1	I don't want the Trek blu-ray set at all. I would if it had all the same features as the dvd set. And it's not the special editions of the movies, either. Sloppy work, Paramount.

12-31-2010, 09:36 PM	#10
nascar2010 Member Member since:Dec 2009 4K collection:24 Blu-ray collection:805	Paramount is taking a page out of George Lucas' playbook. Release one version, wait a few years, then release another, and then another with additiona matierial. It's a money-making circle. Lucas has a ton of my money. I have the Ep. 3 - 6 on VHS, and then again on laserdisc. Then, bought the "Special Edition" set again on laserdisc. And then I, of course, bought the DVD's when those were finally released. Stupidly, I thought that was gonna be it. So, I'll probably buy them on blu-ray when they are released later this year.

01-01-2011, 12:45 AM	#12
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	he said he already has the other 2 on bd.

01-01-2011, 07:49 AM	#14
YodasFootPowder Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Twin Cities, MN Home Theater Gallery:40 4K collection:154 Blu-ray collection:565 Blu-ray reviews: 4 Trading Score:3	Buy the set, sell the ones you have. Doesn't seem that hard.

01-02-2011, 04:07 AM	#19
Sir Platypus Senior Member Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray collection:171	The way I (possibly just like to) see it is that it's a good way for studios to get sales on what are considered to be "lesser titles". For instance, let's say New Line decided to release the A Nightmare on Elm Street set on Blu-Ray. I would hop all over that shit, but if they released them individually, I may just cherry pick my favorites until I can find the rest for dirt cheap to complete my set. Compare the amount of people who would buy Freddy's Revenge or Freddy's Dead to those who would rather just pick up Dream Warriors or New Nightmare. Now how many of those fans would like to just buy a set for a nice collector's item? The point is, it's a good way for them to make sure they don't waste their time and money releasing movies that may not sell as well as others, for the most part. Kinda sucks for those who only want one or two films from a set, but it's just kind of the way things are. Sorry if you think the Nightmare analogy doesn't apply perfectly, but it's the only franchise I believe I'd buy in a set, besides obvious ones (BTTF, Star Wars) and has a comparable amount of titles.

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