The Real Enemy: DVD - Blu-ray Forum

powersfoss · 10-31-2007, 06:38 AM

Guys, HD DVD is a has-been, deflated, pseudo audio/visual-o-phile, dead format. Let us set our sights on the real enemy in this war: DVD.

Let the BD - DVD wars begin!

Zyclone · 10-31-2007, 08:59 AM

blu ray needs way more numbers to even think about over coming dvd , just relax and enjoy the ride

J_UNTITLED · 10-31-2007, 09:09 AM

DVD is certainly going to be THE thing in HD's way as some people simply do not care about picture and audio quality as much as convenience and price.

docjan_uk · 10-31-2007, 09:13 AM

Meh, the only reason why HD DVD is an "enemy" is because it means not all studios put material on Blu-ray.
Once that's over, I don't care whether BD reaches DVD levels of penetration in the home movie market (it likely wont). Just so long as I can get my BD fix from every studio and every TV program for a reasonable price I'm happy.

J_UNTITLED · 10-31-2007, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docjan_uk

Meh, the only reason why HD DVD is an "enemy" is because it means not all studios put material on Blu-ray.
Once that's over, I don't care whether BD reaches DVD levels of penetration in the home movie market (it likely wont). Just so long as I can get my BD fix from every studio and every TV program for a reasonable price I'm happy.

If there never comes a time when demand for Blu-ray is as or nearly as high as DVD then it will remain an under-supplied market and, worse, could very well end up going the way of Laserdisc and Betamax.

docjan_uk · 10-31-2007, 09:21 AM

It'll probably settle into some sort of equilibrium with downloadable content. A Large market, but in terms of percentage penetration, doubt it will beat the all conquering DVD.
Then again lots more people are getting richer in the world over the next fifteen years so theres lots of room to grow/space for BD & DL's.

jw · 10-31-2007, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docjan_uk

Meh, the only reason why HD DVD is an "enemy" is because it means not all studios put material on Blu-ray.
Once that's over, I don't care whether BD reaches DVD levels of penetration in the home movie market (it likely wont). Just so long as I can get my BD fix from every studio and every TV program for a reasonable price I'm happy.

exactly, If bluray was available with selection of dvd , I wouldnt complain a bit. A lot of older folks just now updated to dvd because they got players as gifts and the price is dirt cheap. Blu-ray wont do them any good on them old 480i TVs

GregBlu5 · 10-31-2007, 12:10 PM

The big transition will be when everyone has to have a Hi Def TV or a box to convert from Hi Def broadcasts to whatever regular TVs they're hanging on to. The vast majority of consumers have to get HDTV's *first* before they begin to think about Blu-ray player purchases.

Once they start to see TV broadcasts in Hi Def, and their old (cheap) regular DVD players begin to break and require replacement or won't work with their Hi Def TVs, they'll eventually have to purchase Blu-ray players (if Dud is gone) because they'll have gotten so used to Hi Def images and (many) won't settle for simply upconverted DVDs. (At this point, too, Blu disks will have dropped enough that the price difference won't be significant.)

It'll be a gradual evolution, certainly, that will gather momentum over time; but the biggest factor will be when Hi Def TV broadcasts are mandatory in the U.S., and consumers *have* to make some sort of move toward dealing with Hi Def-only broadcasts.

Hi Def TVs are still the biggest expense, at first, only then followed by the need for a Hi Def disk player.

-Greg

radagast · 10-31-2007, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powersfoss

Guys, HD DVD is a has-been, deflated, pseudo audio/visual-o-phile, dead format. Let us set our sights on the real enemy in this war: DVD.

Let the BD - DVD wars begin!

I've started a thread about this before. We have to stop buying DVDs from studios that are dud exclusive.

Barnum · 01-05-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powersfoss

Guys, HD DVD is a has-been, deflated, pseudo audio/visual-o-phile, dead format. Let us set our sights on the real enemy in this war: DVD.

Let the BD - DVD wars begin!

Reducing the ridiculous media price is a start. There is no way most people will pay 25 or 30 bucks for a blu when they can spend 10 or 15. Until then this will remain a niche format.

jw · 01-05-2008, 03:05 PM

dvds biggest rival in the near future will be Video on demand, downloads. High Def is a niche market that will enjoy its piece of the pie, but as of now the DVD is just fine. I said earlier that with the majority of people having 480,720 Tv's there is no rush to go blu over DVD as there is no visual improvement.

I think calling DVD an enemy is a far cry.
It took the DVD market almost 10 years to reach maturity, as it has now so I wouldnt expect any less from the Hig Def Market

http://www.videobusiness.com/article...?q=dvd+matures

10-31-2007, 06:38 AM	#1
powersfoss Senior Member Member since:Feb 2007	The Real Enemy: DVD Guys, HD DVD is a has-been, deflated, pseudo audio/visual-o-phile, dead format. Let us set our sights on the real enemy in this war: DVD. Let the BD - DVD wars begin! Last edited by powersfoss; 10-31-2007 at 07:31 AM.

10-31-2007, 09:09 AM	#3
J_UNTITLED Power Member Member since:Jul 2006	DVD is certainly going to be THE thing in HD's way as some people simply do not care about picture and audio quality as much as convenience and price. Last edited by J_UNTITLED; 10-31-2007 at 09:17 AM.

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10-31-2007, 08:59 AM	#2
Zyclone Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Somewhere over the rainbow Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:304	blu ray needs way more numbers to even think about over coming dvd , just relax and enjoy the ride

10-31-2007, 09:13 AM	#4
docjan_uk Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray reviews:5	Meh, the only reason why HD DVD is an "enemy" is because it means not all studios put material on Blu-ray. Once that's over, I don't care whether BD reaches DVD levels of penetration in the home movie market (it likely wont). Just so long as I can get my BD fix from every studio and every TV program for a reasonable price I'm happy.

10-31-2007, 09:21 AM	#6
docjan_uk Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray reviews:5	It'll probably settle into some sort of equilibrium with downloadable content. A Large market, but in terms of percentage penetration, doubt it will beat the all conquering DVD. Then again lots more people are getting richer in the world over the next fifteen years so theres lots of room to grow/space for BD & DL's.

10-31-2007, 12:10 PM	#8
GregBlu5 Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Indio, CA 4K collection:795 Blu-ray collection:3955 iTunes collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:1	The big transition will be when everyone has to have a Hi Def TV or a box to convert from Hi Def broadcasts to whatever regular TVs they're hanging on to. The vast majority of consumers have to get HDTV's first before they begin to think about Blu-ray player purchases. Once they start to see TV broadcasts in Hi Def, and their old (cheap) regular DVD players begin to break and require replacement or won't work with their Hi Def TVs, they'll eventually have to purchase Blu-ray players (if Dud is gone) because they'll have gotten so used to Hi Def images and (many) won't settle for simply upconverted DVDs. (At this point, too, Blu disks will have dropped enough that the price difference won't be significant.) It'll be a gradual evolution, certainly, that will gather momentum over time; but the biggest factor will be when Hi Def TV broadcasts are mandatory in the U.S., and consumers have to make some sort of move toward dealing with Hi Def-only broadcasts. Hi Def TVs are still the biggest expense, at first, only then followed by the need for a Hi Def disk player. -Greg

01-05-2008, 03:05 PM	#11
jw Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:519	dvds biggest rival in the near future will be Video on demand, downloads. High Def is a niche market that will enjoy its piece of the pie, but as of now the DVD is just fine. I said earlier that with the majority of people having 480,720 Tv's there is no rush to go blu over DVD as there is no visual improvement. I think calling DVD an enemy is a far cry. It took the DVD market almost 10 years to reach maturity, as it has now so I wouldnt expect any less from the Hig Def Market http://www.videobusiness.com/article...?q=dvd+matures

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