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Old 01-06-2008, 08:41 PM   #1
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Question Blu-ray Movies - why/how ?

Greetings everyone,

I'm pretty new to the forums even though i've been reading the news for quite some time now. So this is my first post, here I go.

I own a PS3 and a couple of BR movies, which I love, it's awesome, etc.

However, I got some weird newbie question :

How does it work when they release an old movie on BR format ? I mean the movies were recorded with old systems (excuse my poor vocabulary I happen to be French well, not totally so I'm all excused I suppose).

I've read the 1st movie to be recorded on a HD camera was "Miami Vice" ??? Does that mean all the movies released before and available on BR are expected to be "crap" quality compared to the newest movies ? (I mean the DVDs are already fine)

All that's left is to cross fingers for Steven Seagal movies to be on BR ! (JK of course)

Thanks for taking a minute to read that pile of crap I just wrote

PS : You better answer me or I release the French version of Walker Texas Ranger upon you all !!
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:45 PM   #2
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Hmm... Walker Texas Ranger is to be feared and Steven Seagal films are highly anticipated.

That's a highly specialized taste, there.
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:50 PM   #3
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Yeah, I worked it out over the years =) Gave up on Jean-Claude Van Damme though
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:54 PM   #4
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Has Hard to Kill been released on Blu Ray?
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Has Hard to Kill been released on Blu Ray?
They should've called that one "Impossible to kill"

Gvortex you're my hero =) I'll check that out
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:57 PM   #6
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I guess I didn't actually answer your question.

I'm not sure about Miami Vice being the first film recorded on HD cameras - it might be true but I kind of doubt it. However, any well *filmed* picture has image resolution far better than any 1080p camera could possibly match. Films are 480i because they were recorded that way, but because they were mastered for DVD that way. They will have to be remastered at 1080i/p for HD DVD or Blu-ray release, which is why every film on DVD isn't immediately available on HD. But, as I've mentioned around here more than once, I think the studios are doing a remarkably slow job a getting quality catalog titles out on the street, as opposed to pushing out the latest "blockbusters" - if such a term has meaning in the current era of Hollywood mediocrity.
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:54 PM   #7
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Greetings everyone,

I'm pretty new to the forums even though i've been reading the news for quite some time now. So this is my first post, here I go.

I own a PS3 and a couple of BR movies, which I love, it's awesome, etc.

However, I got some weird newbie question :

How does it work when they release an old movie on BR format ? I mean the movies were recorded with old systems (excuse my poor vocabulary I happen to be French well, not totally so I'm all excused I suppose).

I've read the 1st movie to be recorded on a HD camera was "Miami Vice" ??? Does that mean all the movies released before and available on BR are expected to be "crap" quality compared to the newest movies ? (I mean the DVDs are already fine)

All that's left is to cross fingers for Steven Seagal movies to be on BR ! (JK of course)

Thanks for taking a minute to read that pile of crap I just wrote

PS : You better answer me or I release the French version of Walker Texas Ranger upon you all !!

If you want a detailed explanation of film and its conversion methods then check out this link:
http://www.myvtp.com/htm/vidfilm.htm
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:58 PM   #8
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How does it work when they release an old movie on BR format ? I mean the movies were recorded with old systems (excuse my poor vocabulary I happen to be French well, not totally so I'm all excused I suppose).

I've read the 1st movie to be recorded on a HD camera was "Miami Vice" ??? Does that mean all the movies released before and available on BR are expected to be "crap" quality compared to the newest movies ? (I mean the DVDs are already fine)
No, older movies can still look great. Checkout 2001 or Bladerunner for some recent examples. Halloween is another. Even though they're older movies, it's hard to tell (i.e. they hold their own with recent releases).
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BTW, the first fully digitally shot film was Star Wars: Phantom Menace that came out in 1999.

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No, older movies can still look great. Checkout 2001 or Bladerunner for some recent examples. Halloween is another. Even though they're older movies, it's hard to tell (i.e. they hold their own with recent releases).
Yes it's exactly the kind of example I was thinking about : I purchased Blade Runner when it was released on DVD, think it's worth getting it again on BR ? Same goes for Coppola's Dracula but it's more recent.

About the Miami Vice, I suspected it to be wrong, I read the info on a HD DVD site ;p
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Old 01-07-2008, 05:43 AM   #11
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BTW, the first fully digitally shot film was Star Wars: Phantom Menace that came out in 1999.
One scene was shot digitally(where Qui-gon tests anakin's midchlorians), and I even noticed theatrically how terrible it looked in comparison to the rest of the film

They really didn't get good cameras until Episode 3
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