Bava's HERCULES IN THE HAUNTED WORLD from Koch - Blu-ray Forum

babybreese · 08-22-2018, 09:21 PM

High on many want lists ( mine too ), pretty exciting announce.
October 25 from Koch.

Looks like no English audio, but there are subtitles.

https://www.amazon.de/Vampire-gegen-...rds=mario+bava

Blu2u · 08-23-2018, 12:03 AM

This is on Koch's website and they list German as the only language. It may be a mistake as they list Italian as one of the subtitle options. I am guessing it should be reversed.

Mahadeva · 08-23-2018, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu2u

This is on Koch's website and they list German as the only language. It may be a mistake as they list Italian as one of the subtitle options. I am guessing it should be reversed.

On their store, they list German, Italian and English audio options and German subs.

https://shop.kochmedia.com/shop/de_D...es+&id=1026951

I'll drop them an email regarding the audio options.

spacenoid1 · 08-23-2018, 05:32 AM

Arrow may end up releasing this. They seem keen on releasing all Mario bava on blu. For that reason I'll hold off a while.

babybreese · 08-28-2018, 04:39 PM

Kino might also, but Arrow will handily by pass whatever Kino issues.

shocker2 · 09-18-2018, 04:50 PM

Tim Lucas did an audio commentary and talks about the pq on his blog (17 Sep):

"Speaking of audio commentaries, I've recorded three in the part month, but the two I can tell you about are Sergio Leone's FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE (1965) for Kino Lorber and Mario Bava's Vampire gegen Herakles (1961) - which you may know better as HERCULES IN THE HAUNTED WORLD - for the German company Koch Media. I have not yet seen Kino's master for the Leone masterpiece, but Koch Media's master for the Technicolor HERCULES film redefines "eye-popping." I've seen the film in 35mm and it was an unforgettable experience; the master retains the hot colors and ramps up the razor focus - this should be your newest demonstration disc. At this time, I am not aware of any forthcoming US or UK release of this title, and I can assure you that it will be English friendly. It will be streeting on October 25 and can be pre-ordered here: https://www.amazon.de/Vampire-gegen-Herakles-Bava-Collection-Blu-ray/dp/B07GJ51MWT/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537213429&sr=8-1&keywords=vampire+gegen+herakles."

http://www.videowatchdog.com/home/home.html

bigshot · 09-18-2018, 05:12 PM

It's a shame it's so expensive. I would get it otherwise.

babybreese · 09-25-2018, 01:44 PM

Wait for another release, it's coming.

babybreese · 11-13-2018, 07:30 PM

Astonishingly, this has over 4 minutes of material not present in the familair version.
For starters, a 2 minute prologue that introduces vampires and a nice horror element right off the bat.

Will keep an eye out for the rest of the material exclusive to the German version.

jrsl76 · 11-14-2018, 12:38 AM

One of my favorite Bavas. Will be nice to replace my Fantomas DVD

Profondo · 11-14-2018, 12:52 PM

I had forgotten about this after the initial announcement stating no English options, until a friend on FB posted some photos of the fantastic packaging stating that this is "the most beautiful looking Blu-ray release I've ever seen in terms of presentation" That coupled with Babybreese acknowledgement of an extra 4 mins make this a must have for me. £25 delivered from Amazon! Any Bava fans on the fence about this should probably take the plunge...

babybreese · 11-14-2018, 02:58 PM

Opening pre credit is the lone new bit of footage here that I caught.
Lots of heads and tails of scenes clipped on the DVD.

Old DVD was a real mess, although it never looked so bad until now.
Cropped on all 4 sides, zoomed in bug time.

You can pick any random frame to examine, the difference jumps out everywhere.

For example

spannick · 11-14-2018, 03:55 PM

German Site, but the Runtimes and Pictures are a good hint:

https://www.schnittberichte.com/schn....php?ID=806889

i can assure the cuts of the US DVD are exactly the same (most likely identical Masters used back then).

reason108 · 12-18-2018, 04:11 AM

I’ve loved this movie over the years when I have caught it on late night television, though it always appeared to be 6 generations down from a 30 year old beta master. But, I’ve always been weary of buying into Bava’s filmography due to all the manipulations of his work. But, this release seems to be a possible “definitive” version, uncut/uncensored the way it should be?! This would be a one-time purchase for me. Can the Bava experts chime in with some knowledgeable opinions? My knowledge on this subject are zilch.

babybreese · 12-18-2018, 02:26 PM

For the film itself, it's very good.

There is an OCN somewhere which could yield an even more impressive image,
but a scan of that may never happen.

Another release could have more special features, Region A, less expensive ect
but until a superior source turns up, this is likely it for the film itself.

08-22-2018, 09:21 PM	#1
babybreese Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2012 Blu-ray collection:304	Bava's HERCULES IN THE HAUNTED WORLD from Koch High on many want lists ( mine too ), pretty exciting announce. October 25 from Koch. Looks like no English audio, but there are subtitles. https://www.amazon.de/Vampire-gegen-...rds=mario+bava

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08-23-2018, 12:03 AM	#2
Blu2u Power Member Member since:Jan 2012 Trading Score:228	This is on Koch's website and they list German as the only language. It may be a mistake as they list Italian as one of the subtitle options. I am guessing it should be reversed.

08-23-2018, 05:32 AM	#4
spacenoid1 Active Member Member since:Jun 2018	Arrow may end up releasing this. They seem keen on releasing all Mario bava on blu. For that reason I'll hold off a while.

08-28-2018, 04:39 PM	#5
babybreese Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2012 Blu-ray collection:304	Kino might also, but Arrow will handily by pass whatever Kino issues.

09-18-2018, 04:50 PM	#6
shocker2 Senior Member Member since:May 2017 Location:first death cell, later power grid	Tim Lucas did an audio commentary and talks about the pq on his blog (17 Sep): "Speaking of audio commentaries, I've recorded three in the part month, but the two I can tell you about are Sergio Leone's FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE (1965) for Kino Lorber and Mario Bava's Vampire gegen Herakles (1961) - which you may know better as HERCULES IN THE HAUNTED WORLD - for the German company Koch Media. I have not yet seen Kino's master for the Leone masterpiece, but Koch Media's master for the Technicolor HERCULES film redefines "eye-popping." I've seen the film in 35mm and it was an unforgettable experience; the master retains the hot colors and ramps up the razor focus - this should be your newest demonstration disc. At this time, I am not aware of any forthcoming US or UK release of this title, and I can assure you that it will be English friendly. It will be streeting on October 25 and can be pre-ordered here: https://www.amazon.de/Vampire-gegen-Herakles-Bava-Collection-Blu-ray/dp/B07GJ51MWT/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537213429&sr=8-1&keywords=vampire+gegen+herakles." http://www.videowatchdog.com/home/home.html

09-18-2018, 05:12 PM	#7
bigshot Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2010 Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:82 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:3	It's a shame it's so expensive. I would get it otherwise.

09-25-2018, 01:44 PM	#8
babybreese Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2012 Blu-ray collection:304	Wait for another release, it's coming.

11-13-2018, 07:30 PM	#9
babybreese Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2012 Blu-ray collection:304	Astonishingly, this has over 4 minutes of material not present in the familair version. For starters, a 2 minute prologue that introduces vampires and a nice horror element right off the bat. Will keep an eye out for the rest of the material exclusive to the German version.

11-14-2018, 12:38 AM	#10
jrsl76 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Glendale, CA 4K collection:318 Blu-ray collection:3241 DVD collection:637 Trading Score:66	One of my favorite Bavas. Will be nice to replace my Fantomas DVD

11-14-2018, 12:52 PM	#11
Profondo Active Member Member since:Jul 2016 Location:Glasgow, Scotland 4K collection:243 Blu-ray collection:2345 DVD collection:63	I had forgotten about this after the initial announcement stating no English options, until a friend on FB posted some photos of the fantastic packaging stating that this is "the most beautiful looking Blu-ray release I've ever seen in terms of presentation" That coupled with Babybreese acknowledgement of an extra 4 mins make this a must have for me. £25 delivered from Amazon! Any Bava fans on the fence about this should probably take the plunge...

11-14-2018, 02:58 PM	#12
babybreese Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2012 Blu-ray collection:304	Opening pre credit is the lone new bit of footage here that I caught. Lots of heads and tails of scenes clipped on the DVD. Old DVD was a real mess, although it never looked so bad until now. Cropped on all 4 sides, zoomed in bug time. You can pick any random frame to examine, the difference jumps out everywhere. For example

11-14-2018, 03:55 PM	#13
spannick Senior Member Member since:Jan 2016 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:224 DVD collection:14	German Site, but the Runtimes and Pictures are a good hint: https://www.schnittberichte.com/schn....php?ID=806889 i can assure the cuts of the US DVD are exactly the same (most likely identical Masters used back then).

12-18-2018, 04:11 AM	#14
reason108 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Mar 2013 Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 8	I’ve loved this movie over the years when I have caught it on late night television, though it always appeared to be 6 generations down from a 30 year old beta master. But, I’ve always been weary of buying into Bava’s filmography due to all the manipulations of his work. But, this release seems to be a possible “definitive” version, uncut/uncensored the way it should be?! This would be a one-time purchase for me. Can the Bava experts chime in with some knowledgeable opinions? My knowledge on this subject are zilch.

12-18-2018, 02:26 PM	#15
babybreese Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2012 Blu-ray collection:304	For the film itself, it's very good. There is an OCN somewhere which could yield an even more impressive image, but a scan of that may never happen. Another release could have more special features, Region A, less expensive ect but until a superior source turns up, this is likely it for the film itself.

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