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Blu-ray Knight
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I'm not surprised.
This is the catch-22 of having tons of separate streaming services, many of which are specific to particular studios or networks, instead of a couple/few that most content gets released on (as was more or less the case before the studios/networks started making their own services)... with each of those services having content that a lot of people want to watch. The average person is not going to sign up and pay for a half-dozen services or more at the same time because if they spend a lot of time watching one or two of them, then that is time spent NOT watching the others that they are still paying for. I've subscribed to and canceled HBO Max a few times now with the various movies that got released directly there that would have been theater-only if COVID had never been a thing. The only reason that I've been consistently subscribed to Disney+ is because I signed up for that initial 3-year deal (all paid upfront) at a huge discount when it first started. But if it wasn't for that, I could easily cancel it periodically, wait for a while for any shows that I want to watch to drop in full (with their gradual, weekly episode releases), and then sign up for it, binge the stuff I want to watch, and then cancel again for a while. Even before reading this story, there were stories about Disney+ falling well short of projected growth, another recent story about Peacock losing absurd amounts of money, etc. None of these stories really surprised me. Maybe time will prove me wrong on this, and I'm not saying that there isn't any future potential growth to be had, but I think each service provider is over-estimating how many people they can ultimately expect to be continuously signed up for their service at one time. And if the economics require them to have many more continuous subscribers than is realistically achievable in order to pay for the original content on the service (plus a solid profit), then at some point some of these services will either have to cease to exist or will end up focusing more on catalog content and/or lower-buget and (likely) lower-quality content so that they are able to be profitable. |
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Thanks given by: | An4h0ny (02-04-2022) |
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The main problem with streaming services is that it's too many of them, and they're all trying to compete with one another. Everybody is jumping on the bandwagon, and it's just a complete mess. I don't subscribe to any of them because the A/V quality is inferior, you don't own the movies and you have to depend on the internet to access your collection. To hell with all of that! I'll stick with physical media.
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Surely the studios can't be surprised? With the exception of maybe Disney+, the studio-based services aren't all that great. They don't churn out enough original content to keep people subscribed for more than the month they have like the wider ones like Prime and Netflix. And unless somebody just NEEDS to watch a certain show and needs to watch it week by week instead of waiting until it's done and watching it in the month they have it active, there's not going to be a ton of people subscribed for 8-13 weeks because they'll alternate.
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Thanks given by: | An4h0ny (02-04-2022) |
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Blu-ray Guru
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“You constantly need new content,” said Michael Nathanson, an analyst for MoffettNathanson.
![]() Nathanson, please. I'm on a 4 month AppleTV+ trial. 100% will cancel after swallowing their content and spitting out the bones. Adapt some more I.P. or get out of the way, I guess? |
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Thanks given by: | Lemmy Lugosi (02-03-2022) |
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It is no surprise at all that a lot of these services are one-hit-wonders. One show or film and then poof…. Half the subscribers are gone. Or worse, they used a free or reduced price trial to watch the show and then disappeared. I have Amazon prime, Disney and Netflix. That’s it. And I’d dump Amazon but we use the prime delivery a lot. Disney is clearly in the best position here due to owning several huge IPs like Star Wars and the MCU. Without those, who’d pay to watch animated classics and whatever? I doubt nearly as many people. But, Disney is the leader here and the price is great. If they keep the cost low then they are in the best position going forward, IMO. There is just so much to watch. I can’t even keep up with it all. I have skipped and will skip numerous shows just for the lack of time reason. Enough is enough. Too much of it is similar anyways. Or, it’s just bad. If a show is really a monster hit I’m hoping they will get released on disc, regardless of what service it was on. Quote:
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Blu-ray Baron
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The same old articles from digital doom-mongers. Just talking about the infrequent negatives again and again to scare monger people.
Not a big deal. Just wait for few days for the hype to settle down and then watch when there is less traffic unless you paid a premium to watch it on that day. This is a part of the service offering which comes with its own pros and cons. Just like going to the Cinema these days and being disturbed by the rowdy crowd around you ruining your experience or receiving that bad unplayable disc. |
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Blu-ray Knight
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It’s weird for me when I see Prime thrown in there. I don’t know anyone who is Prime Video first, Amazon prime second. Everyone I know has a Prime account for shopping and it just happens to also have Video with it as well.
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Thanks given by: | s2mikey (02-08-2022) |
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Aside from that, just Disney+ and Netflix for me. The latter of which hasn't been getting much use |
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Thanks given by: | Lemmy Lugosi (02-03-2022) |
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Blu-ray Knight
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Funnily enough, we have so many services now that I can see a few of them folding and combining content with others. Not necessarily a company buying out a company like Amazon did with MGM, but say Warner and Paramount agree to put their services together.
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Disney and Netflix I borrow from my siblings. In return they all have AppleTV4Ks and use my iTunes account that has like 1100 movies and 100 tv shows lol. |
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Thanks given by: | Blu Lemmy (02-04-2022) |
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Blu-ray Samurai
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I subscribe to their video-only service occasionally to see things like The Expanse and The Boys, and then unsubscribe again. But I don't pay $120 for the Prime shipping stuff. It's easy enough to bundle stuff to go over $25 and get free shipping without Prime (if necessary you can add a Starbucks gift card or something). And where possible I'm trying to use alternative stores anyway because I don't like monopolies.
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Thanks given by: | garyd97 (02-03-2022) |
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Blu-ray Samurai
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I subscribe to Netflix and Amazon Prime. My girlfriend pays for Hulu and Disney+. We get HBO Max for free through our ISP. Everything else we sign up for temporarily for exclusive content and then cancel after watching what we want or the trial membership ends. Don't see that changing anytime soon.
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Blu-ray Samurai
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I would never pay for Prime if it was just the TV service. That is about the only one I have constantly. I will subscribe to Shudder for a month or two every once in a while, Netflix only when there is something I want to watch, I had HBOMax for a while but cancelled that. There just wasn't enough that I wanted to watch.
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Blu-ray Champion
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As mentioned, there are just so many companies involved now. I remember when Hulu first launched, it was basically just a website where you watched everything without having to sign-up or download anything. There are certainly a lot of options and that's fine. Mentioned it a few times before, but there are many thousands of free movies available on Vudu, YT, etc with ads. And the same goes with Tubi. A lot of people also don't know that Kino has their own free streaming platform. All-encompassing providers like Netflix and Hulu are a pretty easy decision, but the network-specific ones can be a tougher sale. I'd like to see more Black Friday sales on streaming like was the case to get Hulu for $0.99/mth and AMC+ for around twice that.
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Consumers are dumb then. I have five streaming platforms, I pay $15/month plus tax for all of them. No skin off my nose when cable was double that.
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