Doctor Who: Twice Upon a Time 4K UHD (2017) - Blu-ray Forum

Viking61 · 07-10-2018, 04:40 PM

Doctor Who: Twice Upon a Time (2017) 4K UHD

Doctor Who: Twice Upon a Time 4K Blu-ray

both 24p

Doctorossi · 07-10-2018, 04:42 PM

Wha?!

Agent Kay · 07-10-2018, 04:43 PM

Weird

mhp68 · 07-10-2018, 04:45 PM

That's incredibly random, lol. I have the Capaldi box set, but would gladly swap it out for the 4k disc if this is true.

Nothing371 · 07-10-2018, 04:45 PM

is that the one where the Doctor gets a sex change and becomes a woman?

Agent Kay · 07-10-2018, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nothing371

is that the one where the Doctor gets a sex change and becomes a woman?

That's not a thing.

sandman slim · 07-10-2018, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nothing371

is that the one where the Doctor gets a sex change and becomes a woman?

No, it's the one where fandom gets asked to pull the stick out of their butts.

"Change, my dear, and not a moment too soon."

pottyaboutpotter1 · 07-10-2018, 05:13 PM

Yes! I’m behind this. As a massive Who fan I’ve been waiting for the show to hit the format. Hoping they port some of the earlier series across too, as it’d help a lot with their dodgy encodes on the Blu-rays

pottyaboutpotter1 · 07-10-2018, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nothing371

is that the one where the Doctor gets a sex change and becomes a woman?

This is the one where the Doctor regenerates into the Doctor. Time lords swapping genders on regeneration is not a recent gimmick and has been part of the canon for ages. The show’s creator, Sydney Newman, wanted the fifth Doctor to be a woman.

lemonhead118 · 07-10-2018, 07:00 PM

Very interesting..

160 minutes too, apparently. Could this finally be the extended cut? Over 2.5 hours seems quite excessive though.

Would be great to see Doctor Who get the 4K treatment, especially as Series 11 has new cameras/lenses

peskdale · 07-10-2018, 07:38 PM

This release is certainly unexpected. Anyone know how the episode was produced? I would have thought we'd have heard something sooner about it being filmed in UHD - especially given all the iPlayer testing the BBC has been doing.

Given the 2010-esque change of the whole production for Series 11, it would not surprise me it will be one of the first shows to be produced in the format. But I'm not convinced the switch happened in time for TUaT.

I suspect if the show does go UHD on a regular basis, they'll be rendering a lot of the VFX at a lower resolution for a while - most likely sticking at 1080i. Most movies don't get full 4K treatment still, so a TV show to get it would be odd (especially on a BBC budget).

StrayButler91 · 07-10-2018, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by peskdale

This release is certainly unexpected. Anyone know how the episode was produced? I would have thought we'd have heard something sooner about it being filmed in UHD - especially given all the iPlayer testing the BBC has been doing.

The show has been shot with Arri Alexa cameras since Season 6. Someone more qualified would have to comment on the resolution it’s captured at, and the resolution of the DI, but I can tell you that it looked spectacular on the big screen last Christmas. Give it a lick of HDR and it should be a nice looking disc.

doctor_who · 07-10-2018, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nothing371

is that the one where the Doctor gets a sex change and becomes a woman?

Gotta stay away from the cooties!!!!!

ltb2.0 · 07-10-2018, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by doctor_who

Gotta stay away from the cooties!!!!!

The movie that bad, huh?

teapot · 07-10-2018, 09:15 PM

Well, this is exciting news. IIRC Twice Upon a Time was recorded natively at 1080p25, so it would be an upscale, but what makes this very interesting is that I believe that the 4K television standard and the 4k UHD Blu-ray disc standard incorporate 25p and 50i/p frame-rates as a requirement everywhere.

So, this could be the first Doctor Who release in North America that doesn't have to go through a standards conversion to make it play at 60i or 24p, which is amazing news.

Vangeli · 07-10-2018, 09:17 PM

Previous BBC UHDs in the US have been converted to 24fps I believe.

Doctorossi · 07-10-2018, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by teapot

I believe that the 4K television standard and the 4k UHD Blu-ray disc standard incorporate 25p and 50i/p frame-rates as a requirement everywhere

Sadly, I don't think it's a requirement.

teapot · 07-10-2018, 09:50 PM

Gah! Well there goes that.

With HD, 1080i60 was the only standard initially and other frame-rates got added later - I still own a Loewe CRT 1080i60 set from the early days in addition to more recent televisions. I know that with UHD and in particular UBD, multiple frame-rates were part of the spec from the beginning. I'd hoped that this might resolve that issue on this format.

Maybe next time.

kwisatzhaderach · 07-10-2018, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pottyaboutpotter1

This is the one where the Doctor regenerates into the Doctor. Time lords swapping genders on regeneration is not a recent gimmick and has been part of the canon for ages. The show’s creator, Sydney Newman, wanted the fifth Doctor to be a woman.

It is a recent gimmick, dreamt up by gagmeister Steven Moffat when he took over as 'showrunner'.

Sydney Newman had nothing to do with Doctor Who beyond creating the actual idea in 1963. In the mid 80s Newman was brought in by Michael Grade for one meeting to ask what he would do with the show now. The ideas Newman presented were rightly ignored by the BBC as ludicrous.

Doctorossi · 07-10-2018, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kwisatzhaderach

It is a recent gimmick, dreamt up by gagmeister Steven Moffat when he took over as 'showrunner'.

Wait... the guy put in charge of coming up with ideas for a TV show... came up with an idea for that show?!

07-10-2018, 04:40 PM	#1
Viking61 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Oct 2011 Trading Score:1	Doctor Who: Twice Upon a Time 4K UHD (2017) Doctor Who: Twice Upon a Time (2017) 4K UHD Doctor Who: Twice Upon a Time 4K Blu-ray both 24p Last edited by Deciazulado; 09-24-2018 at 01:14 PM.

07-10-2018, 09:50 PM	#18
teapot Member Member since:Nov 2014	Gah! Well there goes that. With HD, 1080i60 was the only standard initially and other frame-rates got added later - I still own a Loewe CRT 1080i60 set from the early days in addition to more recent televisions. I know that with UHD and in particular UBD, multiple frame-rates were part of the spec from the beginning. I'd hoped that this might resolve that issue on this format. Maybe next time. Last edited by teapot; 07-10-2018 at 10:01 PM.

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07-10-2018, 04:42 PM	#2
Doctorossi Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2009 4K collection:134 Blu-ray collection:478	Wha?!

07-10-2018, 04:43 PM	#3
Agent Kay Banned Member since:May 2018 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:57	Weird

07-10-2018, 04:45 PM	#4
mhp68 Expert Member Member since:Jan 2011 4K collection:242 Blu-ray collection:1275 DVD collection:153 Trading Score:81	That's incredibly random, lol. I have the Capaldi box set, but would gladly swap it out for the 4k disc if this is true.

07-10-2018, 04:45 PM	#5
Nothing371 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2015 Location:Minneapolis 4K collection:526 Blu-ray collection:1047 Trading Score:11	is that the one where the Doctor gets a sex change and becomes a woman?

07-10-2018, 05:13 PM	#8
pottyaboutpotter1 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2012 Location:West Yorkshire, United Kingdom 4K collection:193 Blu-ray collection:336 Blu-ray reviews: 11	Yes! I’m behind this. As a massive Who fan I’ve been waiting for the show to hit the format. Hoping they port some of the earlier series across too, as it’d help a lot with their dodgy encodes on the Blu-rays

07-10-2018, 07:00 PM	#10
lemonhead118 Senior Member Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Barnstaple UK 4K collection:167 Blu-ray collection:859 DVD collection:27	Very interesting.. 160 minutes too, apparently. Could this finally be the extended cut? Over 2.5 hours seems quite excessive though. Would be great to see Doctor Who get the 4K treatment, especially as Series 11 has new cameras/lenses

07-10-2018, 07:38 PM	#11
peskdale Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2014 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	This release is certainly unexpected. Anyone know how the episode was produced? I would have thought we'd have heard something sooner about it being filmed in UHD - especially given all the iPlayer testing the BBC has been doing. Given the 2010-esque change of the whole production for Series 11, it would not surprise me it will be one of the first shows to be produced in the format. But I'm not convinced the switch happened in time for TUaT. I suspect if the show does go UHD on a regular basis, they'll be rendering a lot of the VFX at a lower resolution for a while - most likely sticking at 1080i. Most movies don't get full 4K treatment still, so a TV show to get it would be odd (especially on a BBC budget).

07-10-2018, 09:15 PM	#15
teapot Member Member since:Nov 2014	Well, this is exciting news. IIRC Twice Upon a Time was recorded natively at 1080p25, so it would be an upscale, but what makes this very interesting is that I believe that the 4K television standard and the 4k UHD Blu-ray disc standard incorporate 25p and 50i/p frame-rates as a requirement everywhere. So, this could be the first Doctor Who release in North America that doesn't have to go through a standards conversion to make it play at 60i or 24p, which is amazing news.

07-10-2018, 09:17 PM	#16
Vangeli Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2017 Location:Maine, US Trading Score:3	Previous BBC UHDs in the US have been converted to 24fps I believe.

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