Arizona Dream 4K UHD (1993) 17/07/2024

[sebamas]

Studiocanal

17/07/2024

[Nitroes]

Tech: https://www.dvdfr.com/dvd/f301912-arizona-dream.html

Excellent news we need more Kusturica on Blu-ray.

[benhoppel]

Originally Posted by Nitroes

Tech: https://www.dvdfr.com/dvd/f301912-arizona-dream.html

Excellent news we need more Kusturica on Blu-ray.

UHD. This one is my least favourite. We need his master piece "Time of the Gypsies".

[Nitroes]

Artwork:



I like that artwork the old posters have always been a bit of a mess.


https://store.potemkine.fr/dvd/37014...mir-kusturica/

Blu-ray.com reference page

[TheBondFan]

Just received it, beautiful digipack imo

[nicwood]

Originally Posted by TheBondFan

Just received it, beautiful digipack imo

Great! I’m looking forward to my German Scanavo case with reversible artwork. Where did you order to get it so early?

[TheBondFan]

Just watched it. I didn't like the movie but I liked the UHD.

Restoration was done by Hiventy.

[nicwood]

Originally Posted by TheBondFan

Just watched it. I didn't like the movie but I liked the UHD.

Restoration was done by Hiventy.

Would you mind answering my question about where you got your UHD so early? Thanks in advance!

[andreasy969]

jpc shipped the German one today at any rate. With France fnac is usually shipping my stuff early.

[nicwood]

Originally Posted by andreasy969

jpc shipped the German one today at any rate. With France fnac is usually shipping my stuff early.

He received his on July 6th already. FNAC is fast but not that early in my experience.

[andreasy969]

Originally Posted by nicwood

He received his on July 6th already. FNAC is fast but not that early in my experience.

I could've sworn the French release was earlier (because for a very brief moment I had that one pre-ordered), but I must've remembered that wrong and yeah, they don't ship that early with me either.

[Nitroes]

Faye Dunaway talked about this in that new Laurent Bouzereau HBO documentary about her https://www.hbo.com/movies/faye Excellent watch.





I'll but the Germany release I think.

https://www.grooves-inc.com/arizona-...101198155.html
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/movie/detai.../hnum/11878172
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0D5CKG7F3/

[nicwood]

I received my copy today and generally liked what I saw. The mentioning of Hiventy made me fear the worst in regards to the color grade and encode as Studiocanal seemingly make their restoration parties deal with the encoding as well.

The UHD is a UHD-100 with the film on it in DV and the interview with N.T. Binh (in French and only subtitled in German if you select German in the menu screen).

The color grade looks fantastic with rich, deep colors, depth and detail and no trace of an obvious lab tint or raised blacks. This is one of the best grades to come out of France and hopefully more to follow like this. No mentioning whether Kusturica supervised it or what they based their grade on.

The encode is surprisingly good but not perfect. I’m 100% sure this would’ve turned into an autopilot disaster encode one or two years ago á la Le cercle rouge. Except for the brightest of highlights, the encode is solid and from what I saw nothing stood out too negatively. Highlights don’t resolve as good, however the gradations from normal grain to a highlight where grain disappears (often when the sun is seen) are less drastic and less visibly attention-grabbing than on other encodes. I have a feeling that this partially is due to the bitrates being optimized a bit better. With Le cercle rouge, bitrates would go from 100+ MBs to single digits within seconds and in here, it’s mostly from 70-80 to 25-30 at the lowest from what I’ve seen. This should make a generally seamless experience, however I need to emphasize that this specifically applies to DV. In HDR10, things aren’t as perfect although the encode holds together surprisingly well and doesn’t look too much different on first glance. The elephant in the room is chroma noise though, which doesn’t look good in HDR if you’re aware of this and notice it in motion. If not, don’t worry, the film should look just fine for you. In DV, it’s better but not 100% perfect either. Nothing that ruins my experience though. It could have been a lot worse, no question.

Can’t report anything about the audio other than that it sounds nice and dynamic. They’ve restored the audio from the original tracks.

If the UHD is unlocked, I’ll try and make some caps later today.

[Edward R. Meow]

Originally Posted by nicwood

I received my copy today and generally liked what I saw. The mentioning of Hiventy made me fear the worst in regards to the color grade and encode as Studiocanal seemingly make their restoration parties deal with the encoding as well.

The UHD is a UHD-100 with the film on it in DV and the interview with N.T. Binh (in French and only subtitled in German if you select German in the menu screen).

The color grade looks fantastic with rich, deep colors, depth and detail and no trace of an obvious lab tint or raised blacks. This is one of the best grades to come out of France and hopefully more to follow like this. No mentioning whether Kusturica supervised it or what they based their grade on.

The encode is surprisingly good but not perfect. I’m 100% sure this would’ve turned into an autopilot disaster encode one or two years ago á la Le cercle rouge. Except for the brightest of highlights, the encode is solid and from what I saw nothing stood out too negatively. Highlights don’t resolve as good, however the gradations from normal grain to a highlight where grain disappears (often when the sun is seen) are less drastic and less visibly attention-grabbing than on other encodes. I have a feeling that this partially is due to the bitrates being optimized a bit better. With Le cercle rouge, bitrates would go from 100+ MBs to single digits within seconds and in here, it’s mostly from 70-80 to 25-30 at the lowest from what I’ve seen. This should make a generally seamless experience, however I need to emphasize that this specifically applies to DV. In HDR10, things aren’t as perfect although the encode holds together surprisingly well and doesn’t look too much different on first glance. The elephant in the room is chroma noise though, which doesn’t look good in HDR if you’re aware of this and notice it in motion. If not, don’t worry, the film should look just fine for you. In DV, it’s better but not 100% perfect either. Nothing that ruins my experience though. It could have been a lot worse, no question.

Can’t report anything about the audio other than that it sounds nice and dynamic. They’ve restored the audio from the original tracks.

If the UHD is unlocked, I’ll try and make some caps later today.

Thank you for the write up. Are English subtitles provided for the Alaskan scenes?

Arizona Dream - Ending scene - YouTube

[nicwood]

Originally Posted by Edward R. Meow

Thank you for the write up. Are English subtitles provided for the Alaskan scenes?

Arizona Dream - Ending scene - YouTube

Yes, they are! I’ve just verified the BD when selecting German in the language menu and then English audio. The subtitles for these parts activate automatically.

[Brian81]

Originally Posted by nicwood

Yes, they are! I’ve just verified the BD when selecting German in the language menu and then English audio. The subtitles for these parts activate automatically.

What about the UHD?


I guess I want more explanation even if what you are describing is simple. It just does not make sense to me. It is an English language film for the German and French market and is listed as having subs for these. Of course you can turn subs off, but why would there be English subs for the Eskimo talk about fish on a release in non English countries where a full English subtitle track is not present. Are they (English subs) burnt into the picture? I have an old HD DVD and it has English subs but I have to toggle them on during the scene because otherwise they are in an SDH track.


Trying to clarify this so I know what to ask the Italian distributor about its upcoming release. That one has info on Amazon as only having Italian subs, and I completely forgot about the non English scenes when I ordered.

[Brian81]

Bumping this one because I’m still looking for an answer. Wonder whether I should cancel my Italian edition and order the German. Went with Italian because I wanted slip and the same title orientation of US releases (not flipped like some German and nearly all French releases - For this reason I usually stick to SteelBooks for them). But if there is English subs for the Eskimo dialogue with subs OFF and English soundtrack playing, I may want the German disc. For my HD DVD I had to turn the SDH English subs ON during those scenes and turn them back off after they were done or just have no subs at all. I am concerned the Italian UHD wont have them…which is more important to me than packaging.

[Brian81]

Originally Posted by nicwood

Yes, they are! I’ve just verified the BD when selecting German in the language menu and then English audio. The subtitles for these parts activate automatically.

Can you clarify - these are English language subtitles? Trying to make sense of this and why they would not be German or French subs when no English subs are listed on product page.




For those interested in the Italian UHD, I took one for the team. No subs for anything other than Italian. So if you only know English you will not understand the Inuit dialogue. Actually, you may be stuck because there isnt even Italian subs for the Inuit dialogue when watching the English or Italian tracks. I had my audio turned off so maybe the Italian track is dubbed over for these parts. I dont know. I will be selling my copy.

[nicwood]

Originally Posted by Brian81

Can you clarify - these are English language subtitles? Trying to make sense of this and why they would not be German or French subs when no English subs are listed on product page.

I already answered your question four posts above yours after you asked the first time.

[Edward R. Meow]

Originally Posted by Brian81

For those interested in the Italian UHD, I took one for the team. No subs for anything other than Italian. So if you only know English you will not understand the Inuit dialogue. Actually, you may be stuck because there isnt even Italian subs for the Inuit dialogue when watching the English or Italian tracks. I had my audio turned off so maybe the Italian track is dubbed over for these parts. I dont know. I will be selling my copy.

Baffiling decision, but thanks for taking one for the team. Was holding off on buying this one until more details emerged. Glad I did; guess I’ll go with the French or German after all.

And just to clarify one thing: With the Italian release, did you check both the first and last scene of the film? To my knowledge, the opening scene with the family is not supposed to be subtitled, while the final scene, with Johnny Depp and the fish, is.

If they did leave subtitles off of the latter, what a massive screwup on their part. The dialogue in that last scene about the fish is pretty important.