Kinds of Kindness (2024 | HMV Exclusive) - October 21, 2024

[UncleBuckWild]

October 21, 2024

KINDS OF KINDNESS | Official Trailer | Searchlight UK - YouTube

[Foggy]

Been looking out for this one to be announced.

[Steedeel]

The Substance (Mubi), Strange Darling, (Icon 4K) and now this! Great news!

[rapta]

Brilliant, thought for a minute there we were getting forgotten but here we are! Glad it's coming out even if it's an HMV exclusive (hopefully doesn't randomly go OOP like The French Dispatch did, was lucky to get a copy of that when it reappeared). And with a poster too, a nice perk!

[Nitroes]

https://hmv.com/store/film-tv/blu-ray/kinds-of-kindness-(hmv-exclusive)

Great news of course but I get a bit antsy about exclusives.

Exclusive = much fewer sales with something like this.

In for the 20% off

[Nitroes]

US back cover:


10/10 on the Plemons scale


Even though HMV have the Blu-ray exclusive there's still a DVD elsewhere for those who refuse to go HD (lang may yer lum reek):



https://www.rarewaves.com/products/5...dness-dvd-ntsc (says NTSC but PAL on the back cover)

https://planetofentertainment.com/ki...24-dvd-normal/ (says Normal so if you're still buying DVD instead of Blu-ray you won't feel so bad)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DHHCQG44/

Odd that the DVD cover has excised all the actors' names.

[UnionJackMix]

Originally Posted by Nitroes

US back cover:


10/10 on the Plemons scale


Even though HMV have the Blu-ray exclusive there's still a DVD elsewhere for those who refuse to go HD (lang may yer lum reek):



https://www.rarewaves.com/products/5...dness-dvd-ntsc (says NTSC but PAL on the back cover)

https://planetofentertainment.com/ki...24-dvd-normal/ (says Normal so if you're still buying DVD instead of Blu-ray you won't feel so bad)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DHHCQG44/

Odd that the DVD cover has excised all the actors' names.

While I appreciate BD+DVD combos (simply because you might just need it, and sometimes I still want to get US releases knowing the BD is region-locked, like Lionsgate) why would someone not want HD? I'm really asking out of curiosity. I was really absolutely adamant about changing in the beginning, but not anymore.

[The Hornets]

Originally Posted by UnionJackMix

While I appreciate BD+DVD combos (simply because you might just need it, and sometimes I still want to get US releases knowing the BD is region-locked, like Lionsgate) why would someone not want HD? I'm really asking out of curiosity. I was really absolutely adamant about changing in the beginning, but not anymore.

The user base for DVD is miles bigger than BD. Many people felt DVD was good enough and moved to streaming for most watching just buying the occasional title on DVD. The step change from VHS to DVD was massive and it was a much more practical format than crapped out VHS tapes.

The change to BD wasn't big enough for most of the public to bother. Not helped by the HDDVD vs BD wars in the early days. Think that had a more noticeable impact than Betamax vs VHS as that was still in the days of rental tapes and very little sell through at that time. Then VHS became the format as those were the players the public bought.

This is why Hollywood still puts out DVDs of their films as they still sell.

The independents have long given DVDs up as collectors want BD and UHD.

If you look at the real world and not the bubble here then UHD is a fraction of BD in terms of user base but not sales as the UHD buyers are the heaviest buyers of physical video.

[McCrutchy]

If the language specifications on HMV are anything to go by, the UK is not getting its own disc with a nominally different encode, as Poor Things did:

Originally Posted by HMV

Anamorphic (16:9), Language(s): English, Spanish-Castilian, German, Italian, Spanish-Latin American, Hard of Hearing Subtitles: English, Subtitles: Danish, Finnish, German, Italian, Norwegian, Spanish-Castilian, Spanish-Latin American, Swedish, Interactive Menu, Screen ratio 1:2.39, 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio, DTS Digital Surround 5.1, Dolby Digital 5.1, Bonus Footage, Deleted Scenes, Documentaries: 'It Takes All Kinds: The Vision of 'Kinds of Kindness'', Poster

Oddly, French support seems to be missing here even though it is mentioned for the US BD. The Spanish back cover doesn't mention German support:

[Show spoiler]

But the Italian back cover says it has French, German, Italian and both Spanish langauges:

[Show spoiler]

So, somebody has specs that are either incomplete or inaccurate. My guess is that it's at least a pan-European disc, possibly also for North America, and Japan either will not get it or will get their own disc.

[Nitroes]

Jeffrey Kauffman US disc review https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Kinds...367758/#Review


I'm assuming we'll be getting something similar.

[Nitroes]

Got mine:



Disc plays on an A player as you'd expect. Nice to see some extras (15min making of). Nice Elite stle case which I've only ever seen on mainland Europe.

It's this style of poster:



Also has Suomi subtitles which is handy for any Finnish people living here. Mikä ihana päivä!

[the13thman]

Originally Posted by The Hornets

The user base for DVD is miles bigger than BD. Many people felt DVD was good enough and moved to streaming for most watching just buying the occasional title on DVD. The step change from VHS to DVD was massive and it was a much more practical format than crapped out VHS tapes.

The change to BD wasn't big enough for most of the public to bother. Not helped by the HDDVD vs BD wars in the early days. Think that had a more noticeable impact than Betamax vs VHS as that was still in the days of rental tapes and very little sell through at that time. Then VHS became the format as those were the players the public bought.

This is why Hollywood still puts out DVDs of their films as they still sell.

The independents have long given DVDs up as collectors want BD and UHD.

If you look at the real world and not the bubble here then UHD is a fraction of BD in terms of user base but not sales as the UHD buyers are the heaviest buyers of physical video.

DVDs are also more durable and likely to last. I own tens of thousands of discs and am finding a lot more Blu-rays going bad than I am DVDs. For that reason I'm not sold on the durability of UHD, I don't generally buy anything on that format without it coming in a combo pack.

[The Hornets]

Originally Posted by the13thman

DVDs are also more durable and likely to last. I own tens of thousands of discs and am finding a lot more Blu-rays going bad than I am DVDs. For that reason I'm not sold on the durability of UHD, I don't generally buy anything on that format without it coming in a combo pack.

UHDs are the shittiest quality but in part because of shoddy manufacture and handling at that point and in distribution.

They are very prone to scratching and that craps out playback in many circumstances. I also believe they don't have the "lacquer" scratch resistant coating that BDs have hence more easy to damage.

Another issue is many UHDs are triple layer UHD 100s. Believe they only sell double 66 and triple 100 discs.

Every layer change is a receipt for disaster as air or dirt can get in between layers. See this in DVD 9s and dual layer BDs as air can get in and start to oxidize the disc. Hence why many discs start to fail around the layer change point and where "bronzing can start.

Even DVDs had crap quality control. Look at DVD18s studios used for things like TV show releases or where lot of content. They seemed to be two DVD 9s stuck back to back so thicker and oxidization was common in many cases very fast.Have lots of DVD 18s that never played properly even from day 1.

[ThePlushyMan]

I noticed that the UK DVD back cover says it’s Region 0. The same is true for the NTSC US release of Poor Things. Are they making the DVDs region free in order to save money by not making different copies for different markets?

[Nitroes]

Originally Posted by ThePlushyMan

I noticed that the UK DVD back cover says it’s Region 0. The same is true for the NTSC US release of Poor Things. Are they making the DVDs region free in order to save money by not making different copies for different markets?

I reckon so. Warner for years released NTSC DVDs in Australia (a PAL area).

I think most countries outside of North America have TVs/players that handle everything PAL or NTSC so it's not a problem.

[ThePlushyMan]

Originally Posted by Nitroes

I reckon so. Warner for years released NTSC DVDs in Australia (a PAL area).

I think most countries outside of North America have TVs/players that handle everything PAL or NTSC so it's not a problem.

Yeah, IIRC, you cannot play PAL on a NTSC player, but you can do the opposite.