What would it take for Universal to end this? - Blu-ray Forum

Damon Payne · 02-01-2007, 10:26 PM

Let's assume the 3:1 (or better) rate of sales for BD vs. HD-DVD continues. What would it take for Universal to support BD? Does anyone have any links as to why they are the only hd-dvd only studio to begin with? I'm very curious as to what the history on this is.

Deane Johnson · 02-02-2007, 01:02 AM

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What would it take for Universal to support BD?

Regime change!

phloyd · 02-02-2007, 01:19 AM

I think at 10:1, heads roll and the HD world changes.

It must eventually...

JToddler · 02-02-2007, 01:26 AM

A company in the BDA has to buy out Microsoft shares in NBC and Universal!

shug7272 · 02-02-2007, 01:51 AM

Universal answers to much more than MS. They will not let their disc sales tank for long just to please MS.

HiNRG · 02-02-2007, 03:13 AM

I know that we're going to have Star Wars & Gone with the Wind, but it would be nice to have Jurassic Park too. I wish Universal would get on-board.

ceros · 02-02-2007, 04:23 AM

Found this interesting. Don't know how reliable the site is though.

http://play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/RCS/3-/1...n/Product.html

I think this is a company in the UK.

ceros · 02-02-2007, 04:39 AM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brokeback-Mo.../dp/B000IMVMFW

Brokeback on bluray could be true. Check that link.

Slackr89 · 02-02-2007, 04:53 AM

dangit Sony, just pay Universal already. lol. I think some persuation from the entire BDA team will make Universal think about moving to our side. maybe not right away, but soon.

Slippy · 02-02-2007, 05:34 AM

A combination of poor sales and deteriorating relationship with Toshiba and other lead HDA members.

WriteSimply · 02-02-2007, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Slackr89

dangit Sony, just pay Universal already. lol. I think some persuation from the entire BDA team will make Universal think about moving to our side. maybe not right away, but soon.

Unfounded rumor was that Universal was already "paid" by MS. No matter.

HD-DVD supporters (not fanatics) and BD supporters will remember Universal for what it was - as the studio that prolonged the format war unnecessarily.

fuad

joeorc · 02-02-2007, 07:09 AM

i think it would take something like this.....some extreme product endorsement

sometimes drastic measures need to be taken....

NovaBomb · 02-02-2007, 03:32 PM

Universal has some smart people working for them. Knowing clearly that HD-DVD will soon fail due to lack of support from other movie studios. there trying to make as much money as they can with HD-DVD. When it come time to be forced to go the other way, they'll already have many movie ready to be realised in HD. There for making even more money on BD. This is only my theory of the whole thing, theres probaly alot of other politics involed with microsoft and stuff, but in the end there making money with it.

Damon Payne · 02-02-2007, 04:03 PM

Given the # of titles and # of copies being sold, the HD sales are probably still a drop in the bucket for these studios, I don't buy that they are just squeezing some blood of out of hd-dvd rock.

JTK · 02-02-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by joeorc

i think it would take something like this.....some extreme product endorsement

sometimes drastic measures need to be taken....

Walken is a god!

I think Universal wants to make money, first and foremost.

If current trends hold, which I have no reason to believe they won't, then at the very least it would be beyond foolish and crazy for Universal to not at least have discs out for both formats by next Thanksgiving-Christmas time.

Even now, they snub BD at their own foolhardiness and peril.

BD is only going up from here and I think just about everyone knows it.

Blubaru · 02-02-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Damon Payne

Given the # of titles and # of copies being sold, the HD sales are probably still a drop in the bucket for these studios, I don't buy that they are just squeezing some blood of out of hd-dvd rock.

HD-DVD is going to die with them or without them.
The format will be dead by 08 so why not squeeze another 50 Million out of unsuspecting HD-DVD consumers before the format dies?

If I was a greedy as universal I know I would probably do the same thing instead of just ending the format war outright by switching sides.

dobyblue · 02-02-2007, 04:23 PM

Brokeback is not distributed by Universal in UK, which is why it's available on Blu-ray. Same for Cinderella Man in Japan.

marzetta7 · 02-02-2007, 05:09 PM

I remember a thread similar to this one in the past, and I think the following opinion still holds weight...

Universal right now is still in a position to approach the BDA and garner royalties, licenses, etc. much like Warner did about a year ago. In fact, they may even hold more clout, in that their participation could very well end the format war. However, if Universal waits too long, and in my opinion, it is fast approaching this point, the BDA will see the 3 to 1 ratio widen, without Universal's aid, and simply give them the finger with no royalties involved.

C'mon Universal, times a waistin. You better hop on board while there may be royalties still yet to attain. Otherwise, you may very well be left in the dark in this round, with no one else but yourself to blame.

JTK · 02-02-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Blubaru

HD-DVD is going to die with them or without them.
The format will be dead by 08 so why not squeeze another 50 Million out of unsuspecting HD-DVD consumers before the format dies?

If I was a greedy as universal I know I would probably do the same thing instead of just ending the format war outright by switching sides.

I think it's this simple and basic, in the end.

02-01-2007, 10:26 PM	#1
Damon Payne Active Member Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Wisconsin	What would it take for Universal to end this? Let's assume the 3:1 (or better) rate of sales for BD vs. HD-DVD continues. What would it take for Universal to support BD? Does anyone have any links as to why they are the only hd-dvd only studio to begin with? I'm very curious as to what the history on this is.

02-02-2007, 01:26 AM	#4
JToddler Active Member Member since:Oct 2006 Blu-ray reviews:1	A company in the BDA has to buy out Microsoft shares in NBC and Universal! Last edited by JToddler; 02-02-2007 at 01:46 AM.

02-02-2007, 07:09 AM	#12
joeorc Power Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:GROVEPORT ,OHIO	i think it would take something like this.....some extreme product endorsement sometimes drastic measures need to be taken.... Last edited by joeorc; 02-02-2007 at 07:21 AM.

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02-02-2007, 01:19 AM	#3
phloyd Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2003 Location:California Trading Score:5	I think at 10:1, heads roll and the HD world changes. It must eventually...

02-02-2007, 01:51 AM	#5
shug7272 Active Member Member since:Jan 2007	Universal answers to much more than MS. They will not let their disc sales tank for long just to please MS.

02-02-2007, 03:13 AM	#6
HiNRG Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Boston, Massachusetts	I know that we're going to have Star Wars & Gone with the Wind, but it would be nice to have Jurassic Park too. I wish Universal would get on-board.

02-02-2007, 04:23 AM	#7
ceros Junior Member Member since:Feb 2007	Found this interesting. Don't know how reliable the site is though. http://play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/RCS/3-/1...n/Product.html I think this is a company in the UK.

02-02-2007, 04:39 AM	#8
ceros Junior Member Member since:Feb 2007	http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brokeback-Mo.../dp/B000IMVMFW Brokeback on bluray could be true. Check that link.

02-02-2007, 04:53 AM	#9
Slackr89 Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Edmonton, Alberta PSN: Slackr Blu-ray collection:116 Trading Score:2	dangit Sony, just pay Universal already. lol. I think some persuation from the entire BDA team will make Universal think about moving to our side. maybe not right away, but soon.

02-02-2007, 05:34 AM	#10
Slippy Junior Member Member since:Feb 2007	A combination of poor sales and deteriorating relationship with Toshiba and other lead HDA members.

02-02-2007, 03:32 PM	#13
NovaBomb Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray collection:48	Universal has some smart people working for them. Knowing clearly that HD-DVD will soon fail due to lack of support from other movie studios. there trying to make as much money as they can with HD-DVD. When it come time to be forced to go the other way, they'll already have many movie ready to be realised in HD. There for making even more money on BD. This is only my theory of the whole thing, theres probaly alot of other politics involed with microsoft and stuff, but in the end there making money with it.

02-02-2007, 04:03 PM	#14
Damon Payne Active Member Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Wisconsin	Given the # of titles and # of copies being sold, the HD sales are probably still a drop in the bucket for these studios, I don't buy that they are just squeezing some blood of out of hd-dvd rock.

02-02-2007, 04:23 PM	#17
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	Brokeback is not distributed by Universal in UK, which is why it's available on Blu-ray. Same for Cinderella Man in Japan.

02-02-2007, 05:09 PM	#18
marzetta7 Special Member Member since:Feb 2006	I remember a thread similar to this one in the past, and I think the following opinion still holds weight... Universal right now is still in a position to approach the BDA and garner royalties, licenses, etc. much like Warner did about a year ago. In fact, they may even hold more clout, in that their participation could very well end the format war. However, if Universal waits too long, and in my opinion, it is fast approaching this point, the BDA will see the 3 to 1 ratio widen, without Universal's aid, and simply give them the finger with no royalties involved. C'mon Universal, times a waistin. You better hop on board while there may be royalties still yet to attain. Otherwise, you may very well be left in the dark in this round, with no one else but yourself to blame.

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