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Old 04-15-2009, 11:26 PM   #1
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One thing I hate about widescreen is that there is no consistency - and I understand that (the way the movie was shot, etc). But how do you plasma owners deal with this? I am thinking about replacing my TV (LCD) with a pioneer plasma. Has anyone experienced burn-in due to the constant presence of these black bars? Any concern, or do you use a zoom mode?

(16:9 is a dumb ratio to be generally acknowledged as "standard")
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:38 PM   #2
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No issues....no zoom.

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Old 04-15-2009, 11:39 PM   #3
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never zoom.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:43 PM   #4
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One thing I hate about widescreen is that there is no consistency - and I understand that (the way the movie was shot, etc). But how do you plasma owners deal with this? I am thinking about replacing my TV (LCD) with a pioneer plasma. Has anyone experienced burn-in due to the constant presence of these black bars? Any concern, or do you use a zoom mode?

(16:9 is a dumb ratio to be generally acknowledged as "standard")
Pioneers really don't have a burn in problem. And as everyone else said, zooming is heresy.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:47 PM   #5
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All you have to do is break in your set for the first 150 to 200 hours by watching full screen content. after that you can watch whatever ratio you want
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:47 PM   #6
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No Zoom ! Black bars are our friends , They suck having to be there , But not much we can do about it !!!
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No Zoom ! Black bars are our friends , They suck having to be there , But not much we can do about it !!!
He doesnt want the bars to be his friend.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:58 PM   #8
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No burn-in, nor any type of IR.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:00 AM   #9
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One thing I hate about widescreen is that there is no consistency - and I understand that (the way the movie was shot, etc). But how do you plasma owners deal with this? I am thinking about replacing my TV (LCD) with a pioneer plasma. Has anyone experienced burn-in due to the constant presence of these black bars? Any concern, or do you use a zoom mode?

(16:9 is a dumb ratio to be generally acknowledged as "standard")
Excellent choice! No burn-in issues and I watch 3-4 BDs [black bars and all] atleast every weekend not to mention the movies I watch on HBO, STARZ, MGMHD, Universal HD, HDNet, etc.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:04 AM   #10
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I dont have any burn issues either and sometimes me and my wife will watch 1 or 2 movies a day some weeks. just make sure you dont have any setting on like vivid that will usually give you some burn in
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:05 AM   #11
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I never broke my Kuro in. Two months later, no problems at all with anything.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:06 AM   #12
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never had any IR or burn from anything on my panny plasma! burn in is next to impossible on today's sets! IR can occur but it is only temporary and nothing to worry about!
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:10 AM   #13
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echoing what everyone else said..........


The black bars won't burn in.... and they'll look better than the gray bars on my LCDs

Go for it!
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:12 AM   #14
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no problems with black bars for me. Even with 4:3 material and the bars on the sides.

I love my Panny Plasma.
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:29 AM   #15
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Excellent news, guys, thanks. Is the picture REALLY that much better than LCD displays?? (I had posted another thread regarding picture quality). Maybe I'll be converted; was never really sold on plasma's. Will let you know.
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Excellent news, guys, thanks. Is the picture REALLY that much better than LCD displays?? (I had posted another thread regarding picture quality). Maybe I'll be converted; was never really sold on plasma's. Will let you know.
I have two LCDs... a Samsung, and a sharp Aquos.... I've seen many plasmas... and if I ever need another normal T.V..... it'll be a Plasma... I just can't stand the lackluster black levels of my LCDs
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Excellent news, guys, thanks. Is the picture REALLY that much better than LCD displays?? (I had posted another thread regarding picture quality). Maybe I'll be converted; was never really sold on plasma's. Will let you know.
That's not a discussion I want to get into with many of my friends on here owning LCD, but for my money....yes, Plasma has a better picture.

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Old 04-17-2009, 01:12 AM   #18
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A plasma is basically a Fixed Pixel CRT, and have the same benefits and problems as CRTs. The phosphors that emit light are what can produce a true black, also can lead to image retention (Not to be mistaken by "Burn in", which is permanent and you DON'T want that) if you leave an image, logo, or black bar for too long on screen. People have owned CRT for years, did not see much of Burn in because most of what they watch is full screen, if you have not had that problem, you shouldn't worry about that in a plasma. Plasma manufacturers have used pixel shift features to prevent image retention, which is very useful if you watch alot of content that has Logos or black bars on their, but if it affects picture quality (which it shouldn't in most models) turn it off. Being a DLP owner, I have wished they match the black levels of CRTs or some plasmas, although I appreciate the very accurate color, and high resolution, although by now plasmas with 1080p resolution is commonplace.
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Old 04-17-2009, 02:01 AM   #19
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Same here black bars on movies and no problems. Don't use zoom unless it's for standard def tv. As for Blu-rays and DVDs I just watch them as they were intended and the Pioneer plasma 111fd handles it perfectly.
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