Terminator (T1) audio - Blu-ray Forum

STARSCREAM · 05-27-2009, 04:02 PM

Watched Terminator last night and while I think the PCM track is really good for the age of the movie I did notice with some of the dialogue, mainly center channel with some of Kyle Reese's lines, that it sounds like distortion. Most of the dialogue is smooth and doesn't sound like this but some did. Just wondering if others hear it? I checked out some other movies afterwards and dialogue was fine so it must be T1's audio track. When things like this happen, particularly on older titles is it mainly due to the condition the film stock is in and maybe there isn't a better sample of that audio clip than what they have to work with?

benricci · 05-27-2009, 04:31 PM

Audio has nothing to do with the film stock used. If you are hearing any distortion, then it's most likely present in the master audio tapes they have available (which have since been cleaned up and converted to digital masters).

For some older titles, the magnetic tape can contain some hissing, but with digital tools this has mostly been cleaned up and taken care of for modern home video releases.

I did not hear any noticeable distortion in T1, though, I thought it sounded pretty good.

Also, John Connor is not in T1. Are you talking about T2?

online365daysayear · 05-27-2009, 05:14 PM

I just purchased T1 and watched it last night and I was thrown off by the changes they made with the music and with the sounds of the guns in the movie. The last time I watched T1 was on VHS. The sound of the gun with laser sighting sounded more like a futuristic weapon than a real gun. I wish they would have included the original audio mix also.

BStecke · 05-27-2009, 05:17 PM

John Connor has lines in T1? I didn't have any problems with mine, I just watched it a few days ago. Is this the new disc with the lenticular cover or the old one? They should be identical, though.

surfdude12 · 05-27-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DVDave

Are you talking about T2 because John Connor is not in T1.

wasn't there a scene in 2029 when John is commanding the human resistance in T1? I dont' think he spoke even then though...it must be T2 he's referring to...

STARSCREAM · 05-27-2009, 05:47 PM

My bad, I meant Kyle Reese.

I'll go back and identify time stamps where it occurs.
I have the lenticular cover version but it should be identical to the older release.

Blu-ray Fanatic · 05-27-2009, 06:13 PM

So which version is better in regards to audio and picture?

BStecke · 05-27-2009, 06:15 PM

They're the same disc with a different cover.

Blu-ray Fanatic · 05-27-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

They're the same disc with a different cover.

I guess so that means they spent a couple years just designing a cover?!?!

STARSCREAM · 05-27-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DVDave

Could just be inherent due to limitations with sound mixing and recording of the original mono mag track before it was remixed into Dolby.

This is what I think it is. Like I said, most of the audio is fantastic and the rest of dialogue is very clean sounding, like a new movie sounds. There are just some lines that have a harsh tone to it making it alittle distorty sounding.

BStecke · 05-27-2009, 06:31 PM

I don't think they had any plans for anything really special for T1. I know Lowry's doing a restoration of it, so I would imagine that's why they didn't put much effort into this release so they could still have something to release around T4 time, but not blow their wad for before the restoration is done.

Chamillitary · 05-27-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

John Connor has lines in T1? I didn't have any problems with mine, I just watched it a few days ago. Is this the new disc with the lenticular cover or the old one? They should be identical, though.

Same here. No issues for me.

Sith · 05-27-2009, 07:31 PM

listened/watched it this weekend getting ready for T4, no problems here....

GGX · 05-27-2009, 07:58 PM

I think its a sin for Sony to have not included the original mono audio on this release. I don't enjoy this audio re-remix with its altered sound effects not presented in the theatrical release.

online365daysayear · 05-28-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GGX

I think its a sin for Sony to have not included the original mono audio on this release. I don't enjoy this audio re-remix with its altered sound effects not presented in the theatrical release.

I agree. It totally threw me for a loop as I have seen this movie at least 30 times on VHS and was dumbfounded by the remix that Sony did. Please give us back to original audio when you release it for the third time.

05-27-2009, 04:02 PM	#1
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	Terminator (T1) audio Watched Terminator last night and while I think the PCM track is really good for the age of the movie I did notice with some of the dialogue, mainly center channel with some of Kyle Reese's lines, that it sounds like distortion. Most of the dialogue is smooth and doesn't sound like this but some did. Just wondering if others hear it? I checked out some other movies afterwards and dialogue was fine so it must be T1's audio track. When things like this happen, particularly on older titles is it mainly due to the condition the film stock is in and maybe there isn't a better sample of that audio clip than what they have to work with? Last edited by STARSCREAM; 05-27-2009 at 05:47 PM.

05-27-2009, 04:31 PM	#2
benricci Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	Audio has nothing to do with the film stock used. If you are hearing any distortion, then it's most likely present in the master audio tapes they have available (which have since been cleaned up and converted to digital masters). For some older titles, the magnetic tape can contain some hissing, but with digital tools this has mostly been cleaned up and taken care of for modern home video releases. I did not hear any noticeable distortion in T1, though, I thought it sounded pretty good. Also, John Connor is not in T1. Are you talking about T2? Last edited by benricci; 05-27-2009 at 05:32 PM.

05-27-2009, 05:47 PM	#6
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	My bad, I meant Kyle Reese. I'll go back and identify time stamps where it occurs. I have the lenticular cover version but it should be identical to the older release. Last edited by STARSCREAM; 05-27-2009 at 05:49 PM.

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05-27-2009, 05:14 PM	#3
online365daysayear Expert Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Newtown, PA Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:731 Trading Score:2	I just purchased T1 and watched it last night and I was thrown off by the changes they made with the music and with the sounds of the guns in the movie. The last time I watched T1 was on VHS. The sound of the gun with laser sighting sounded more like a futuristic weapon than a real gun. I wish they would have included the original audio mix also.

05-27-2009, 05:17 PM	#4
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	John Connor has lines in T1? I didn't have any problems with mine, I just watched it a few days ago. Is this the new disc with the lenticular cover or the old one? They should be identical, though.

05-27-2009, 06:13 PM	#7
Blu-ray Fanatic Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:San Antonio Blu-ray reviews:1	So which version is better in regards to audio and picture?

05-27-2009, 06:15 PM	#8
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	They're the same disc with a different cover.

05-27-2009, 06:31 PM	#11
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	I don't think they had any plans for anything really special for T1. I know Lowry's doing a restoration of it, so I would imagine that's why they didn't put much effort into this release so they could still have something to release around T4 time, but not blow their wad for before the restoration is done.

05-27-2009, 07:31 PM	#13
Sith Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Seal Beach, CA Blu-ray collection:168	listened/watched it this weekend getting ready for T4, no problems here....

05-27-2009, 07:58 PM	#14
GGX Banned Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Kentwood, Michigan Blu-ray collection:262 Trading Score:2	I think its a sin for Sony to have not included the original mono audio on this release. I don't enjoy this audio re-remix with its altered sound effects not presented in the theatrical release.

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