Question about upgrading to a new reciever - Blu-ray Forum

Vincent Vega82 · 06-15-2009, 09:14 PM

I currently have http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers...=rightCol;also with http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/...s_10/index.jsp

speakers with the exception of another double cube speaker for the center channel speaker. I bought it in 2005 and am not looking into spending the amount it would cost to get a whole new set of speakers plus sub then, a new receiver. I live in a condo that has a pretty good size family room. The room is however connected to 2 other condos via 2 separate walls one on the left and one on the right of the room. I'd be getting the receiver primiarly for clearer sound You think it'd be worth it w/my stimulus check to get a new receiver or not?

Slec · 06-15-2009, 09:28 PM

With blu, you could get a receiver allowing you to take advantage of lossless codecs. If your using a standalone with analog outs, you might want to try that as well.

I'd say 'yes' you'll notice a difference though your speakers would also be a limiting factor. (i'd say the same about my setup under certain circumstances, so that's not a shot....and i'm NOT recommending you upgrade the speakers)

Vincent Vega82 · 06-15-2009, 11:47 PM

I have a PS3 but, thought you could set the audio to HDMI instead of optical thus, having both audio and video passed through by the PS3. I know you can do that w/LPCM but, since I don't have a reciever capable of playing the new audio formats. I'm not sure of the details on how to do it w/a HDMI or what audio formats are compatable with that method(maybe it's just PCM that you can do that way). Didn't take your comment that way FYI.

Slec · 06-16-2009, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

I have a PS3 but, thought you could set the audio to HDMI instead of optical thus, having both audio and video passed through by the PS3. I know you can do that w/PCM but, since I don't have an audio capable of playing the new audio formats. I'm not sure of the details on how to do it w/a HDMI or what audio formats are compatable with that method(maybe it's just PCM that you can do that way). Didn't take your comment that way FYI.

you do NOT want anything with 'audio pass-through'. Do you have a budget for a receiver? any future upgrade plans we should keep in mind (or not) to make recommendations?

Vincent Vega82 · 06-16-2009, 01:34 AM

about 250-300 for reciever and no plans on replacing speakers or replacing PS3 as Blu-ray player.

HAMP · 06-16-2009, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

about 250-300 for reciever and no plans on replacing speakers or replacing PS3 as Blu-ray player.

If you want to upgrade, here is a nice receiver for your price range.

Last one at the time I posted for $319.

Can you sell your current unit?

Vincent Vega82 · 06-16-2009, 04:36 AM

I could but, have to wait until I get my stimulus check to buy the new receiver(money is a bit tight right now) and I want to make sure everything works out well. I've never heard of that site. Is it reputable? I think my speakers are 95 watts RMS. You think that's ok the wattage is a bit over on the receiver specs?

Slec · 06-16-2009, 12:28 PM

they are factory authorized to sell reconditioned onkyo merch

callas01 · 06-16-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

I could but, have to wait until I get my stimulus check to buy the new receiver(money is a bit tight right now) and I want to make sure everything works out well. I've never heard of that site. Is it reputable? I think my speakers are 95 watts RMS. You think that's ok the wattage is a bit over on the receiver specs?

yes, the onkyo in full surround is prolly only going to put out about 75 watts per channel or less, given that its bigger brother is putting out 75 wpc 5 or more channels being driven, the 606 is prolly the same or a little less. 2 channel stereo may be different, that is where speakers that perform better then Bose can perform at a higher level. In stereo it could be putting out closer to 100 watts per channel.

Vincent Vega82 · 06-16-2009, 04:14 PM

Since My Blu-ray's are going to be played via PS3 am I only going to get PCM w/a new reciever? Or just send video and audio via hdmi? One hdmi from Ps3 to the reciever then one from the reciever to the tv. So that the video and audio will be sent via the same hdmi cord. Will I only be able to get PCM or is there a way to get Dolby True HD and DTS-MA via the PS3 that way?

Slec · 06-16-2009, 04:17 PM

yep.

PS3 > Hdmi > AVR> HDMI >tv
set the PS3 to linear PCM

The AVR will show 'multi-channel' but the PS3 will decode TrueHD and DTS-HDMA and send out to the receiver.

Sonny · 06-16-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

Since My Blu-ray's are going to be played via PS3 am I only going to get PCM w/a new reciever? Or just send video and audio via hdmi? One hdmi from Ps3 to the reciever then one from the reciever to the tv. So that the video and audio will be sent via the same hdmi cord. Will I only be able to get PCM or is there a way to get Dolby True HD and DTS-MA via the PS3 that way?

You are still getting DTS-HD MA & TrueHD, its just coming through as PCM because the PS3 does not Bit Stream lossless audio & never will. You will see "multich" light up on your AVR but rest assured its lossless.

Vincent Vega82 · 06-16-2009, 05:40 PM

Any recommendations for Onkyo recievers? Any sites w/good prices? I have a 5.1 system so, the extra channels are not a concern. New only. I don't want to take a chance on used receivers.

Fors* · 06-16-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

Any recommendations for Onkyo recievers? Any sites w/good prices? I have a 5.1 system so, the extra channels are not a concern. New only. I don't want to take a chance on used receivers.

If you have an idea of how much you want to spend, this will provide us with much better guidance for you....

Vincent Vega82 · 06-16-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

about 250-300 for reciever and no plans on replacing speakers or replacing PS3 as Blu-ray player.

Here is my post on how much

callas01 · 06-16-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

Here is my post on how much

onkyo 507
yamaha 465
Pioneer 919 (probably the best of them)

Otherwise if you are stuck below $300 you can go to Amazon and get this Sony STR-DH700

rrios28 · 06-17-2009, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

Here is my post on how much

Dont go to cheap, you might regret it later down the road, the key is to try and future proof as much as possible in my opinion.

Fors* · 06-17-2009, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rrios28

Dont go to cheap, you might regret it later down the road, the key is to try and future proof as much as possible in my opinion.

Which is always a difficult task considering if you get upgraditis or not....

06-15-2009, 09:14 PM	#1
Vincent Vega82 Banned Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:20 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Question about upgrading to a new reciever I currently have http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers...=rightCol;also with http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/...s_10/index.jsp speakers with the exception of another double cube speaker for the center channel speaker. I bought it in 2005 and am not looking into spending the amount it would cost to get a whole new set of speakers plus sub then, a new receiver. I live in a condo that has a pretty good size family room. The room is however connected to 2 other condos via 2 separate walls one on the left and one on the right of the room. I'd be getting the receiver primiarly for clearer sound You think it'd be worth it w/my stimulus check to get a new receiver or not? Last edited by Vincent Vega82; 06-15-2009 at 09:23 PM.

06-15-2009, 11:47 PM	#3
Vincent Vega82 Banned Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:20 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	I have a PS3 but, thought you could set the audio to HDMI instead of optical thus, having both audio and video passed through by the PS3. I know you can do that w/LPCM but, since I don't have a reciever capable of playing the new audio formats. I'm not sure of the details on how to do it w/a HDMI or what audio formats are compatable with that method(maybe it's just PCM that you can do that way). Didn't take your comment that way FYI. Last edited by Vincent Vega82; 06-16-2009 at 12:02 AM.

06-16-2009, 04:36 AM	#7
Vincent Vega82 Banned Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:20 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	I could but, have to wait until I get my stimulus check to buy the new receiver(money is a bit tight right now) and I want to make sure everything works out well. I've never heard of that site. Is it reputable? I think my speakers are 95 watts RMS. You think that's ok the wattage is a bit over on the receiver specs? Last edited by Vincent Vega82; 06-16-2009 at 04:48 AM. Reason: adding something.

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06-15-2009, 09:28 PM	#2
Slec Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Baltimore, MD Home Theater Gallery:29 Blu-ray collection:241 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:30	With blu, you could get a receiver allowing you to take advantage of lossless codecs. If your using a standalone with analog outs, you might want to try that as well. I'd say 'yes' you'll notice a difference though your speakers would also be a limiting factor. (i'd say the same about my setup under certain circumstances, so that's not a shot....and i'm NOT recommending you upgrade the speakers)

06-16-2009, 01:34 AM	#5
Vincent Vega82 Banned Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:20 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	about 250-300 for reciever and no plans on replacing speakers or replacing PS3 as Blu-ray player.

06-16-2009, 12:28 PM	#8
Slec Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Baltimore, MD Home Theater Gallery:29 Blu-ray collection:241 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:30	they are factory authorized to sell reconditioned onkyo merch

06-16-2009, 04:14 PM	#10
Vincent Vega82 Banned Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:20 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Since My Blu-ray's are going to be played via PS3 am I only going to get PCM w/a new reciever? Or just send video and audio via hdmi? One hdmi from Ps3 to the reciever then one from the reciever to the tv. So that the video and audio will be sent via the same hdmi cord. Will I only be able to get PCM or is there a way to get Dolby True HD and DTS-MA via the PS3 that way?

06-16-2009, 04:17 PM	#11
Slec Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Baltimore, MD Home Theater Gallery:29 Blu-ray collection:241 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:30	yep. PS3 > Hdmi > AVR> HDMI >tv set the PS3 to linear PCM The AVR will show 'multi-channel' but the PS3 will decode TrueHD and DTS-HDMA and send out to the receiver.

06-16-2009, 05:40 PM	#13
Vincent Vega82 Banned Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:20 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Any recommendations for Onkyo recievers? Any sites w/good prices? I have a 5.1 system so, the extra channels are not a concern. New only. I don't want to take a chance on used receivers.

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